IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2008-10-28

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue Oct 28 00:00:01 CET 2008
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CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #455/Translation: Tips in client are untranslated: [new] Tips in client are untranslated.01:15
CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [new] Access via <Alt>-keys to the menu works, but it doesn't work in the dropdown menus, that are opened this way.01:23
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CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [chatting] For me it works. But with some flaws. I need to release the alt key, when Iam in a popup menu. E.g. Press alt-F to open the file menu, ...07:47
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CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #455/Translation: Tips in client are untranslated: [chatting] The translated tips need to be stored in a new file e.g. share/tryton/tipoftheday.de_DE.txt for german translation.08:32
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udonolordvan: hi09:22
lordvanhey09:26
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udonocedk: hi, any news about documentation framework for tryton?10:04
cedkudono: bechamel commit documentation for stock and stock_supply module10:06
cedkudono: but it is not easy to make a wiki like application10:06
cedkI think about using intuxucation perhaps10:06
udonocedk: I find your idea with gettext translations of every paragraph quite good. So we can have a single reference document in english language, which is translated into different languages...10:19
udonocedk: but the sphinx doesnt provide a framework for this...10:20
cedkudono: i think we can write a script for that10:21
udonocedk: I read that with sphinx 0.5 the UI will be translatable, but this doesnt include a framwork for content translations...10:21
cedkudono: I don't think that there is any wiki-like  framework that handle this feature10:22
udonocedk: dont know. For me it is already wiki-like, since I edit the rst and bundle it and send you the patch... I dont know if we need this much more wiki function?!10:24
cedkudono: we can create repository on intuxication with xxx_doc like for translation10:24
udonocedk: yes, but the gettext method has the advantage, that you can see if the source changed10:26
udonocedk: another idea: but we can provide a simple wiki like edit function for all rst: http://groups.google.com/group/sphinx-dev/browse_thread/thread/8041d64ed4ee7d2d#10:27
cedkudono: it is just to show the source10:31
cedkudono: not editing it10:31
udonocedk: As I read, its for editing in an external application.10:36
udonocedk: This way i could edit my notes with a single click from my browser.(i'm using konqueror, by default clicking a text link opens gvim, fromwhich i can rebuild the site with a custom command)""10:37
udonocited from above link10:37
lordvanwhat's sphinx?10:53
udonolordvan: http://sphinx.pocoo.org/10:59
lordvani used epydoc  before ;)11:05
lordvandoxygen like11:05
lordvanmakes quite nice api docs11:05
cedklordvan: it is the new tools for python doc11:06
lordvanor http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedLore11:07
lordvan^_^11:07
lordvanhmm well i didn't do a lot of python api doc recently ..11:07
lordvanjust made some small tools ..11:07
cedklordvan: one advantage of sphinx, we find is that the text source is readable11:09
lordvanwell i didn't really look at it yet just was wondering what you were talking about :)11:10
lordvani found epydoc quite ok11:10
cedkwe will use it for user documentation about modules11:10
lordvanah11:11
CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [resolved] Seems to work as udono says. So I close the issue.11:14
cedkudono: for the issue 45511:15
cedkI suggest to remove the tipoftheday.txt file11:15
cedkand put all in the tips.py and use gettext for translation11:15
cedkudono: what do you think ?11:15
cedkI do it, like that the translation process is more simple11:27
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 887:569877c12a0c tryton/ (5 files in 4 dirs):11:28
CIA-58tryton: Remove tipoftheday.txt and put it in tips.py11:28
CIA-58tryton: It will simplify the translation process11:28
CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #455/Translation: Tips in client are untranslated: [chatting] Changeset 569877c12a0c put the translation of tips in the po/mo11:29
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 888:d901eb29801e tryton/tryton/gui/window/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Don't set page_size on Adjustment for use for a simple scalar value11:44
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 889:0e40b8cc9c27 tryton/tryton/gui/window/view_form/view/form_gtk/calendar.py: Add some spacing on DateTime widget11:44
udonocedk: good idea11:44
udonocedk: maybe an external tipoftheday.py with just a dictionary, list, string or something could be better design11:45
cedkudono: why?11:46
udonocedk: just to separate data and code...11:49
udonocedk: in the long run we may have a lot of tips I hope ;-)11:49
cedkudono: but the data is on top of the code11:50
udonocedk: its not this important for me, just an idea11:51
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CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [chatting] Sorry, but I wouldn't close like that, because it is unexpected behaviour. Every application I know works with ALT key pressed. I suppo ...11:53
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 890:116ace6be594 tryton/tryton/common/common.py: Set editable and sensitive on error dialog popup12:07
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CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: It seems to be the normal behavior for gtk menu. I try it on ekiga and it works like tryton.12:26
CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [resolved] claws mail works also like tryton So it really seems to be the standard way.12:52
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udonocedk: I dislike th chaos on http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton13:01
udonocedk: since it is the official repository for addon modules, there are just old/broken and devel/translation modules over there13:02
udonocedk: do you think its possible to use this repository just for real addon modules, which are in a "working" state?13:03
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #457/Editing documentation files from browser: [new] S. a. http://groups.google.com/group/tryton/browse_thread/thread/7928ce1c24f7d80e13:14
yangoonudono: cedk: there is a problem with the % sign in tip text, when compiling catalog:13:19
yangoonerror: share/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/tryton.po:1419: Python parameter % o not found in translation13:19
yangoonudono: cedk: do you want to mask the percent sign or simply replace it with text percent?13:20
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [chatting] I googled upon this, but I didn't find a solution. Even the gtk-demo Application Main Window and UI Manager reacting like described her ...13:42
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: You may request on the pygtk or gtk mailinglist for this issue?!13:43
udonoyangoon: dont know, if % makes problem, then there will be problems with other letters, too, I think13:44
yangoonudono: hmm, it is just the sign for parameter, so this is really special13:45
yangoonudono: I cannot find anywhere in babel docu how to mask the % sign13:48
CIA-58tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 159:d13a5f79f45f website/ (html_incl/map-html.t2t map.js screen.css services.t2t): Added box around map, added location for Sednacom, added support for b2ck.13:50
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udono_yangoon: did you solve?14:00
udono_yangoon: try %%14:00
yangoonudono_: tried already this14:00
yangoonand '%'14:00
yangoonbut doesn't help14:00
yangoonI just replaced % by percent and then it compiles14:01
yangoonudono_: so as a quick fix for this very special case this could be enough IMHO14:01
yangoonbut nevertheless client doesn't show translation of tips, but they are in mo file14:03
yangoonudono_: cedk: there seems to be another issue with translation of tips: translation is not shown even with correct compiled mo file14:05
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CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: On 28/10/08 13:42 +0100, Udono wrote: > > Udono <udono@gmx.net> added the comment: > > I googled upon this, but I didn't find a solution. > Even ...14:20
CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: [new] After applying percent.patch to avoid compile problems, translations of tips are nevertheless not shown. I join patch and resulting mo file ...14:27
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 891:eee44168270b tryton/tryton/gui/window/tips.py: Make tips translated at each call of dialog14:28
CIA-58tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 892:6324e476e37c tryton/tryton/gui/window/tips.py: Changed percent sign in tip to text to avoid compile problems with babel14:29
CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: [resolved] Applied And changeset eee44168270b must fix14:31
CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #459/IntegrityError on database update: [new] Shouldn't this rather be an error message than a unrecoverable error? I think that in other cases with null values in already existing reco ...14:42
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #460/About http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton: [new] http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton is mentioned on the download page as an external repository for more modules. But for now it is a p ...14:42
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CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #460/About http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton: [chatting] Supporting this wish: Best IMHO would be to have even subdirectories under tryton for i.e. translation to keep those modules, that basi ...14:47
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: [new] I like to provide menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions. My goal is to make the client completely keyboard dr ...14:58
CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: [chatting] Not completely fixed: One tip is not translated, it is the one containing special characters /ˈtraɪtən/, or as in Greek Τρίτων ...15:01
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: [chatting] +++ Tabs inside forms +++ Using pageup and pagedown: No modifier key: next/previous record Ctrl modifier key: next/previous application ...15:10
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: +++ Shortcuts for 'reset default' and 'set as default' +++ For the current field: New F7 reset default New F8 set as default15:15
yangoonudono_: Isn't 176 solved now? I think you can close it.15:23
yangoonudono_: And doesn't 461 supersede 244? So 244 could be closed.15:25
CIA-58tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r253 /wiki/HowtoTranslate.wiki: Put command line in one line15:33
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: +++ Cleanup menu access keys +++ All Keys are called with Alt modifier... Form > _Delete to D_elete (memory hook :E:rase) why: lap _Dupli ...15:43
CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #459/IntegrityError on database update: [resolved] Just drop the columns15:46
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: +++ Requests +++ New Shift-Ctrl-s Send a Request New Shift-Ctrl-r Read my Requests for memory: Ctrl-s is Save Record Ctrl-r is Reload Record15:47
udono_yangoon: thanks, I closed 17615:51
udono_yangoon: but 244 is another approach, there will the shortcuts be user definable... in 461 I try to predefine them15:52
udono_yangoon: and all comments for Issue 461 are welcome...15:52
udono_@all: What do you think about the structure for the client documentation described in http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/DocumentationClient ? Should I start to write?15:54
CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #440/tryton/tryton/common/common.py:241: Warning: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed win.destroy(): [resolved] I think I identified this Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/27685415:57
udono_cedk: before some month, you told me about a kind of macro-recorder for gtk. Do you remember the name?16:04
cedkudono_: gtklogger16:06
lordvancya16:07
udono_cedk: thanks16:09
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 893:4113ee067842 tryton/tryton/gui/window/dbrestore.py: Remove unused translation16:11
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 894:abd2683569da tryton/tryton/translate.py: Improve translation for gettext environment16:11
CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #460/About http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton: Repositories will always be development. For release, we will use pypi, so I don't see any problems16:13
CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: [testing] I suppose that it is a bug in gettext as other tip works. So we need perhaps to remove the Greek chars.16:14
udono_cedk: do you have reasons recomending gtklogger instead of pyusecase?16:35
cedkudono_: no16:36
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CIA-58tryton: udono roundup * #460/About http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton: [resolved] Ced you are right. But it would not so bad to have later on release an distinction between releases and development repositories on the ...16:38
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 895:a6ec2addcc50 tryton/tryton/gui/window/view_form/ (view/form_gtk/many2many.py widget_search/selection.py): Add missing import of gettext17:47
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 160:d9fb8bbf209e website/downloads.t2t: Seprate development from release17:55
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 161:1fd0e5eb8839 website/screen.css: Remove floatright green17:55
udono_cedk: I checked out gtklogger and pyusecase, both looking very good. But both needs massive client implementations...18:59
CIA-58tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 162:c1f9fe6d0e47 website/ (map.js services.t2t): Added Virtual Things on services19:04
CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: It is really weird. After removing greek chars the result is, that _no_ tip is translated. Joining newest po file, that looks perfect AFAIS.19:14
CIA-58tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 163:af673745cb34 website/ (html_incl/config-html.t2t screen.css services.t2t):19:38
CIA-58tryton: Add link on services19:38
CIA-58tryton: Add B2CK macro19:38
CIA-58tryton: ced roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: Don't understand, nothing is translated ?19:41
CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: No tip is shown translated any more (eben not the ones, that worked before) with latest update (tip;) from tryton.org and tryton.po joined to this ...19:45
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CIA-58tryton: matb roundup * #462/add new section for payment terms: [new] Add separator in party/accounting, since payment terms don't belong to vat. Serves for better display in addon modules, too. patch attached21:11
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