IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2008-12-09

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue Dec 9 00:00:01 CET 2008
cedknicoe: yes, so you will have really what you see00:00
X0d_of_N0done thing I noticed about openerp 5 is that the dir structure is even worse than in previous versions00:00
cedkX0d_of_N0d: we will make some more change for the release 1.200:01
cedkX0d_of_N0d: we don't like the LocalService stuff nor the name of OSV and ORM00:01
X0d_of_N0dcedk: of course, those are horrible names00:02
X0d_of_N0dcedk: not very descriptive at all00:02
cedkX0d_of_N0d: the first thing is that ORM is not an ORM :-)00:03
X0d_of_N0dwhen I read tinyerp code I get the impression that there are a few good programmers, and a bunch of idiots00:04
X0d_of_N0dcedk: tryton doesn't seem to have the idiots00:04
cedkX0d_of_N0d: it is due to the Mythical Man-Month :-)00:06
cedkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month00:06
bechamelX0d_of_N0d: take care it seems that they are a lot of ex-tiny people on the chan ...00:06
nicoeX0d_of_N0d: If you ever stumble on good code in openerp there are pretty hig odds they those line have be written by me, gedd, cedk or bechamel :)00:06
X0d_of_N0dnicoe: that's kind of what I thought reading the code00:07
X0d_of_N0dACTION is not saying everyone who worked on tiny were idiots....00:07
cedkX0d_of_N0d: and OpenERP has 50 devs on the project :-)00:07
bechamel;)00:07
CIA-54tryton: matb roundup * #651/website: crash with some queries: [new] Fehler in einer Vorlage: <type 'exceptions.TypeError'>: argument 2 to map() must support iteration Es folgen Informationen zum Fehler: ...00:08
cedkX0d_of_N0d: the goods leave00:08
nicoeBut i'm pretty sure the y must have at least some of the new developpers that are pretty decent00:08
CIA-54tryton: matb roundup * #651/website: crash with some queries: [chatting] precise. not the website, but roundup00:08
X0d_of_N0dwell I'm gonna have to demo openerp 5 to see if they implimented any of the other improvments you guys did... working with it right now is pretty irritating00:09
cedkyangoon: can you send me the link of the issue 651?00:09
X0d_of_N0done of the first things I noticed with tryton was the correctl implimented country/subregion stuff00:10
cedkX0d_of_N0d: we have script that use pycountry00:13
cedkmodules/country/scripts/countries.py00:14
X0d_of_N0dcedk: exactly... the right way00:15
X0d_of_N0dcedk: I was actually going to use that exact module to fix tinyerp's stuff...00:15
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CIA-54tryton: ced roundup * #651/website: crash with some queries: [testing] Must be fixed00:22
nicoeC you every100:22
cedkX0d_of_N0d: by the way, I push the fix for completion in the branch 1.000:26
CIA-54tryton: matb roundup * #651/website: crash with some queries: [resolved] is fixed, thx!00:35
X0d_of_N0dcedk: cool, thanks for the quick response too00:38
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CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1333:66059b636221 trytond/trytond/osv/orm.py:00:57
CIA-54tryton: Check operator at the beginning of __where_calc to allow to use inselect for00:57
CIA-54tryton: fields function search00:57
mmarshallbtw, relatorio isn't mentioned as a prerequisite in INSTALL.01:04
CIA-54tryton: matb roundup * #650/Items reappearing untranslated in new database: and is not really a solution, because after deletion of the items in question (as well for en_US as for de_DE) ans (re)export of those modules tra ...01:17
yangoonmmarshall: relatorio is mentioned in INSTALL of trytond01:19
mmarshallHmm... I could have sworn It wasn't there fifteen minutes ago! :$01:22
yangoonmmarshall: :D01:22
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CIA-54tryton: casaxa roundup * #583/Account invoce: Sequence for PRO FORMA missing.: Thats what I see from the link on wikipedia. Simply, a 'Proforma Invoice' is Confirmed Purchase Order where buyer and Supplier agrees on the Prod ...08:15
CIA-54tryton: casaxa roundup * #652/automatic updates of prices in the price lists.: [new] It would be very useful to me to have automatic updates of the product prices with the price lists. This is meant in that way: I import a p ...08:25
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CIA-54tryton: casaxa roundup * #653/Product replacement: [new] With spare parts what I work I have many times a problem of some spare parts being replaced by other items, or new part numbers. This is no ...08:39
CIA-54tryton: Timitos roundup * #583/Account invoce: Sequence for PRO FORMA missing.: so if i understand this correctly a proforma invoice is the same like an order confirmation? if yes i think it would be better to use the sale mo ...09:07
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CIA-54tryton: ced roundup * #650/Items reappearing untranslated in new database: You don't run with an updated repository.10:26
CIA-54tryton: udono roundup * #583/Account invoce: Sequence for PRO FORMA missing.: @Timitos, You are right, of course its better to use the sale/purchase module if you make sale/purchase. But Proforma is a concept without a sal ...10:54
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CIA-54tryton: matb roundup * #650/Items reappearing untranslated in new database: (x86_64)mathiasb@obelix:~/bin/tryton/trytond$ hg log|more changeset: 1339:83a23904bf0a tag: tip parent: 1337:51398dd58844 parent: ...11:57
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CIA-54tryton: matb roundup * #583/Account invoce: Sequence for PRO FORMA missing.: Just telling from practice: I am receiving regularly proforma invoices from one of my suppliers, on which I have to do payment in advance. And tho ...12:17
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Cristi_anhi there.14:23
Cristi_anthe win client is packed in an exe.in order to run the applciation needs to have python installed on the computer14:24
Cristi_an?14:24
Cristi_anor is pakced inside the exe14:24
Cristi_anor so14:24
udonoCristi_an it is standalone, you can run without extra requirements14:25
Cristi_annice then ...!14:25
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CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1334:acb7f3c7a211 trytond/trytond/ir/rule.py: Fix typo for user.id operand15:48
CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1100:ddde6fd6297c tryton/ (CHANGELOG tryton/common/common.py): Add user warnings15:52
CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1335:f7c95a962445 trytond/trytond/res/user.xml: Remove unused _ in page name15:52
CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1336:63aaae5e4db5 trytond/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Add user warnings15:52
CIA-54tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 144:29c1f744abb6 stock_supply/ (purchase_request.py purchase_request.xml): Added readonly computed qty and improved view16:01
baculeHello Tryton people.  I've just set up Tryton 1.0.1 using Mercurial, hoping to use it for my own accounts as well as my clients accounts.  Is there any documentation anywhere?  At the moment I'm trying to set up a chart of accounts.16:32
cedkbacule: hi, all the documentation is on the website but there is no docuementation about how create a chart of account as it depends on each countries16:56
CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1101:0934f4974518 tryton/tryton/common/common.py: Catch exception when creating res.user.warning16:59
baculecedk:  Where on the website?  I have looked, but I can't find much.  Regarding accounts, I realise that it's country-specific.  Will I be able to set up a chart template for my clients to use?  And my first specific question is: what's the difference between 'Account Kind' and 'Account Type'?17:05
cedkbacule: Account Type is used to define where in the Balance Sheet or Income Statement the account must be put17:08
cedkbacule: and Account Kind is used to filter the use of the account, like 'payable' is use for payable account on party17:09
baculecedk: OK, thanks for that.  I'll keep working at it.17:15
baculeDo you want me to report any bugs that I find?17:16
cedkbacule: yes of course17:16
baculeOK.  Is it best to mention things informally here, or just use the roundup mechanism?17:17
cedkbacule: it depends17:38
CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1337:b2ae7662577c trytond/trytond/ir/ (de_DE.csv es_ES.csv fr_FR.csv): Backed out changeset 2a36e96d93a917:39
CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1338:fdfaccffdb5b trytond/: merge17:39
CIA-54tryton: ced roundup * #650/Items reappearing untranslated in new database: I backout the previous changeset as the translation must be in the both modules.17:40
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udonoFYI: http://www.alberton.info/dbms_identifiers_and_case_sensitivity.html18:46
CIA-54tryton: ChrisD roundup * #654/Currency GBP missing: [new] The currency module does not include UK Pounds (GBP). The attached patch adds GBP to currency.xml18:51
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CIA-54tryton: casaxa roundup * #583/Account invoce: Sequence for PRO FORMA missing.: I also can tell my practical point here. I usually issue a proforma invoice (separate numbering from invoices) for my customers to make me an adva ...20:17
CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1102:82a7562bee25 tryton/ (9 files in 5 dirs): Handle invisible states on list view20:24
Cristi_anjust read on open erp form : the proper title for that post is :"Empire countrattacks" :)20:26
Cristi_an /s/form/forum20:26
CIA-54tryton: chris@fbcs.co.uk default * 48:78b65c2833c9 currency/currency.xml: Add UK Pounds (GBP)20:27
CIA-54tryton: ced roundup * #654/Currency GBP missing: [resolved] Applied Thanks. PS: be careful to use only space and not tabs in xml.20:28
CIA-54tryton: ced roundup * #649/Unable to create new employee: [in-progress] This is because you don't have a Default Property for Payable Account20:37
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CIA-54tryton: matb roundup * #649/Unable to create new employee: Correct. Could the error message in this case be extended, to advice the user to set the Default Property? Because he usually doesn't know, that ...21:53
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CIA-54tryton: matb roundup * #650/Items reappearing untranslated in new database: Updated to tip, translated all, exported all, created new database and untranslated items are: "Mark for Upgrade" "" "False" "ir.module.module" " ...22:35
CIA-54tryton: ced roundup * #649/Unable to create new employee: I'm working on a better way to handle views of inherits model. I think about using the same view as the party with a "xpath" to extend it for the ...23:04
CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1339:ee1bae5b0958 trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Add missing clause on module in import of translation cvs file for issue65023:16
CIA-54tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1340:e0ea9e28b6f5 trytond/trytond/osv/orm.py: Use a copy value of field values in fields_get23:16
CIA-54tryton: ced roundup * #650/Items reappearing untranslated in new database: Must be fixed with changeset ee1bae5b095823:16
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X0d_of_N0dcedk: aside from it already being in tinyerp, is there any reason you guys went with webdev for document control instead of hg?23:45
cedkX0d_of_N0d: don't understand?23:45
X0d_of_N0dcedk: you guys are using webdev for document control, right?23:46
X0d_of_N0derr document managment...23:46
X0d_of_N0dI don't remember the coloquilalism used23:47
X0d_of_N0derr vernacular23:47
X0d_of_N0dwhatever23:47
X0d_of_N0dcolloquialism23:47
X0d_of_N0dyeah23:47
cedkX0d_of_N0d: I don't see how you can use hg ?23:49
X0d_of_N0dfor document management?23:50
cedkX0d_of_N0d: hg is not a network protocol23:51
X0d_of_N0da mericual repository could be used to store documents23:51
X0d_of_N0dthis would allow one to look back at the revision history23:51
cedkX0d_of_N0d: but mercurial is not a network protocol23:52
X0d_of_N0dright, it's not a protocal, but it can be shared out easily with the hgwebdir thing.... or over ssh... or shared out directly from within mercurial23:52
X0d_of_N0dright, but it runs very well over network protocals. I was thinking more about the backend. Where webdev is a http based representation of a directory, hg/http could present the same data in a similar way but with revision information23:54
X0d_of_N0dthe protocal would still be http, just not webdev23:54
cedkX0d_of_N0d: WEBDAV has also the revision information and it is standard23:54
X0d_of_N0dI was just curious if this had been thought about or not23:54
X0d_of_N0dI thought it didn't, I'll look at it again23:56
X0d_of_N0dhum... yeah, my bad23:57
cedkX0d_of_N0d: so we have historisation for attachment, because we use a checksum for the name of the document23:58
bechamelX0d_of_N0d: the big difference is that webdav is handled by default on most platform. E.G on windows or with gnome you can create "network directory" or something like that you put an url, some credencial and the webdav struture appear just as another directory (on linux there is also davfs among others)23:58
cedkX0d_of_N0d: and we never remove it23:58
X0d_of_N0dversioning using delta-v or whatever?23:59
cedkX0d_of_N0d: no complet copy23:59

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