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| 2009-02-05 00:38 <cedk> panthera: one more recommended dependency for the server is psyco | ||
| 2009-02-05 00:53 <panthera> cedk: good, that's already available in debian; should i recommend on this: | ||
| 2009-02-05 00:54 <panthera> http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-psyco | ||
| 2009-02-05 00:54 <panthera> or also on this one: | ||
| 2009-02-05 00:54 <panthera> http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-psycopg | ||
| 2009-02-05 01:02 <cedk> panthera: python-psyco is recommended and python-psycopg is required | ||
| 2009-02-05 01:03 <cedk> panthera: and in fact it is python-psycopg2 that is required | ||
| 2009-02-05 01:06 <cedk> panthera: ping me when Tryton will reach the debian tree, we will make a news and update the website | ||
| 2009-02-05 01:07 <panthera> cedk: i will. | ||
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| 2009-02-05 03:56 <juanfer> ping ikks | ||
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| 2009-02-05 11:13 <udono> Gedd: hi | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:13 <Gedd> udono: hi | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:14 <udono> Gedd: we have massive problems to get relatorio work on Debian etch | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:14 <udono> Gedd: it's the dependency to lxml | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:14 <Gedd> what's the problem exactly? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:14 <udono> Gedd: do you know about? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:14 <Gedd> nope | ||
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| 2009-02-05 11:15 <cedk> udono: Tryton depends also on lxml? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:16 <bechamel> udono: which debian ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:16 <kai_botech> debian etch, the current stable | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:16 <udono> bechamel: the old age stable | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:18 <cedk> udono: what is the error message? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:19 <udono> kai_botech: is searching... | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:21 <kai_botech> i tried to install it using easy_install (easy_install lxml==1.3.6) | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:22 <kai_botech> then there is a error related to not finding src/lxml/etree.c ... | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:23 <kai_botech> but python elementree ist installed using apt-get | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:23 <panthera> udono: have you used the packages i uploaded? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:24 <cedk> kai_botech: it doesn't work to use mixed easy_install and debian packages | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:24 <udono> panthera: Hi, are the debianpackages ready? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:24 <cedk> kai_botech: because debian packages remove the distutils stuffs | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:24 <panthera> udono: for everything except tryton-server, yes. are currently in NEW, | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:25 <udono> panthera: great news | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:25 <panthera> udono: but in the meanwhile they are also on http://daniel.debian.net/packages/ | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:25 <panthera> udono: and *temporary* repo is at http://daniel.debian.net/repositories/tryton/ | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:25 <yangoon> panthera: will they work for etch? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:25 <panthera> (however, the latter is of not much use until i finished tryton-server) | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:26 <panthera> they work on etch *iff* you backport the depends of python modules that are in lenny/sid, but not in etch. | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:26 <panthera> and you need a recent enough python-support (>= 0.6.something) | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:26 <cedk> panthera: one thing, I don't understand is how can you have modules package without the server package? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:27 <udono> panthera: I think the problem is in another package... lxml | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:27 <panthera> udono: that's in the category '*iff* you backport the depends of python modules that are in lenny/sid, but not in etch.' | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:27 <panthera> cedk: hm? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:27 <udono> nicoe: Hi, do you have experience in installing relatorio on debian etch | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:27 <yangoon> panthera: because on etch there isn't python-pydot, so if you recommend it... | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:28 <cedk> udono: here it is because he tries to install with easy_install and lxml has C code | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:28 <panthera> cedk: the order on how i upload doesn't matter; new packages always get stuck in the new queue | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:28 <udono> cedk: yes, you are right | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:28 <cedk> panthera: ok, because modules must depend on server | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:28 <udono> cedk: so we need to install from debian sources? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:29 <panthera> cedk: where they will enter sid if a) license was reviewd and accepted b) the package all depends of it are satisfied within sid | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:29 <nicoe> udono: No | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:29 <panthera> yangoon: python-pydot is also in that category | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:29 <panthera> yangoon: so? :) | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:29 <panthera> yangoon: or am i missing the point? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:29 <yangoon> udono: did you look at backports.org? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:30 <nicoe> udono: what version of the libs used by relatorio is on debian-etch ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:30 <udono> nicoe python-lxml1.1 | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:31 <udono> nicoe: on lenny | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:32 <udono> nicoe: sorry, not lenny, etch | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:32 <cedk> udono: it is pretty old | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:32 <nicoe> udono: that's a quite old version I suppose relatorio is using some newer features | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:32 <cedk> I think there is big change between version 1.x and 2.x | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:34 <cedk> but relatotio works with 1.3.6 | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:34 <cedk> for me | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:35 <cedk> udono: what happen if you run it with 1.1? | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:37 <udono> cedk: relatorio wanted to have >=1.3.6 so it starts to compile a more recent version. | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:37 <udono> cedk: But compilation breaks with a tail of other dependencies... | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:38 <udono> yangoon: but maybe the backports could solve it... johbo told me that he has a working version on etch, and get lxml2.1 from a backport... | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:39 <panthera> udono: just curious.. is etch really that important? lenny gets released on valentines day.. | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:39 <johbo> udono: i have it but do not know the source, i'm searching ;) | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:41 <udono> panthera: we all hope for this date... | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:43 <cedk> udono: you copy/paste your compile error message | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:51 <panthera> udono: it's pretty much really certain that it will happen then. | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:56 <udono> cedk: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/102851 | ||
| 2009-02-05 11:59 <bechamel> udono: it seems you need to install python-dev | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:01 <udono> bechamel: This looks good, compile log is only half long ;-) http://paste.pocoo.org/show/102853/ | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:03 <udono> bechamel: it seems there are some general build packages missing like stdlib.h etc. I stfw for this... | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:03 <bechamel> udono: yes | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:04 <udono> maybe libc6-dev | ||
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| 2009-02-05 12:07 <cedk> udono: ok, it is a common issue with gcc-4 | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:08 <cedk> udono: I think it is missing an include <limits.h> in lxml.etree.c | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:08 <cedk> udono: can you try with gcc-3 | ||
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| 2009-02-05 12:15 <udono> Yes, I got it | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:16 <udono> cedk: even with gcc-4 | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:20 <cedk> udono: and gcc-3 | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:22 <udono> cedk: maybe, I did not try ... | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:23 <udono> http://packages.debian.org/de/etch/build-essential may help too | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:25 <udono> ... and (for the log) To install relatorio on Etch, there is needed: zlib1g-dev python-dev libxslt-dev libxml-dev | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:26 <udono> Thanks a lot for finding the path. | ||
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| 2009-02-05 12:54 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 484:2935c726809e stock/packing.py: Packings: Added tests when writing state on move | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:54 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 485:8a6c788a1041 stock/: Merge | ||
| 2009-02-05 12:55 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 117:f03d939a834b sale/sale.py: Fix wrong class name given to super | ||
| 2009-02-05 13:07 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 262:9d0dc0fb22d7 website/sphinx_data/templates/layout.html: Add missing language in doc | ||
| 2009-02-05 13:07 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 263:c35f50755c99 website/ (8 files in 6 dirs): Add ohloh widgets | ||
| 2009-02-05 13:07 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 264:6e3382021756 website/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/tryton.po: merge | ||
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| 2009-02-05 16:44 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1520:847ca92ddc21 trytond/trytond/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Move dump and restore into specific backend | ||
| 2009-02-05 16:46 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1175:ffa70984b74f tryton/tryton/gui/window/dbrestore.py: Add grab_focus on entry_server_password field in dbrestore | ||
| 2009-02-05 16:52 <cedk> Hi, bechamel and me will be at the Fosdem if anyone is also there... | ||
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| 2009-02-05 17:20 <yangoon> udono: just rereading this morning | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:20 <yangoon> udono: basically you don't have to wait for the release of lenny, since it is already frozen | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:21 <yangoon> udono: there will be very few changes until it will be published as stable | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:22 <yangoon> udono: so if you want upgrade the server anyway, you can already do it (IMHO) | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:25 <cedk> yangoon: I guest that he can not upgrade it | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:28 <udono> yangoon: This is a good information, thanks, I will change... | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:28 <udono> cedk: wrong guess, it's a tryton vserver | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:28 <udono> :-) | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:28 <cedk> udono: so use Gentoo :-) | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:32 <panthera> :) | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:33 <cedk> panthera: by the way, I see that you put a man page in the debian package? | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:33 <panthera> cedk: yep. debian packages have to have manpages. :) | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:33 <panthera> .oO(feel free to take it upstream and rip my name out of it.) | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:34 <cedk> panthera: I see just in the list file where can I find it? | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:35 <panthera> cedk: for tryton client? | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:35 <panthera> http://git.debian.net/?p=debian/tryton-client.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/manpages/tryton.1;hb=debian | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:35 <cedk> panthera: every man page that you create | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:36 <panthera> atm, it's the only one. | ||
| 2009-02-05 17:36 <panthera> the server will get one too if it doesn't have already one. | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:03 <carlos> is there a way to leave the 'invoice_tax_code' field as null for taxes definition? | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:04 <carlos> for example, when you need to keep track of the amount invoiced with 0% of VAT | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:04 <carlos> that value will be always 0 | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:04 <carlos> so we don't need a tax.code.template to store it | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:05 <carlos> but I'm not sure whether Tryton allows you to leave that field empty | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:07 <bechamel> carlos: in the code the field is not required | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:08 <carlos> ok | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:08 <carlos> let's try how it goes ;-) | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:08 <carlos> thanks | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:10 <bechamel> carlos: but I don't know very well acounting, so I only tell you whats the code does | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:11 <carlos> bechamel: well, if something breaks, then it's a bug because the code must require it | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:12 <cedk> carlos: fill an issue | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:13 <bechamel> cedk: invoice_tax_code should be required ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:13 <carlos> cedk: well, I didn't say it breaks | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:13 <carlos> I'm still writing the xml | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:14 <cedk> bechamel: no | ||
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| 2009-02-05 18:28 <cedk> carlos: if you create a tax wihtout tax.code, it must work so if for you it is not, fill an issue | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:30 <carlos> cedk: it should work then, we were just wondering | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:35 <udono> carlos: Hi, IMHO It works, because we use it in the german chart of accounts, too. | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:38 <carlos> ok | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:44 <udono> On tinyerp-user they tell, that 5.0 final comes tomorrow... | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:45 <udono> http://www.openerp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=29401#29401 | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:45 <cedk> udono: it has been postponed so often | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:51 <cedk> udono: I will believe it when I'll see it :-) | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:53 <carlos> anyway, release a 5.0 version without releasing a migration script to be tested is going to be 'funny' for all people that are not paying them or their partners | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:54 <carlos> either they do perfect code, or many installations will break for unexperience users | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:55 <cedk> carlos: for me, it is unbelievable to not write migration script during developpement | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:55 <carlos> well, I'm sure they wrote it | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:55 <carlos> but it's not released outside Tiny | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:56 <cedk> carlos: I work at Tiny and I said many times that we must write migration script during developpement, it was never accepted | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:56 <bechamel> carlos: you are optimistic | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:56 <udono> ACTION guess perfect coding *duck* | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:56 <carlos> cedk: really? | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:57 <cedk> carlos: it is one reason for Tryton | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:57 <carlos> wow | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:57 <carlos> things are even worse than I thought | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:57 <cedk> carlos: perhaps they change their mind now | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:58 <cedk> carlos: there was many changes after Tryton (bazaar, bugtracker, documentation, irc, ...) | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:59 <carlos> well, the fact that they answer in their forums that people lie, instead of checking whether they did a mistake when they say that the database is broken ... | ||
| 2009-02-05 18:59 <carlos> is not something good for them | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:00 <carlos> at least for people outside their "circle of friends" like me | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:00 <carlos> the good thing is, as you pointed, that they are learning | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:01 <bechamel> maybe they plan to sell migration scripts ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:02 <carlos> bechamel: I guess, anyway, such migration should be done by experience people, so they would sell the service anyway if they release the script | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:03 <carlos> however, others would be able to sell it too and that's what they want to prevent | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:03 <carlos> or just that they don't care about migration at all | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:03 <cedk> carlos: second | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:04 <bechamel> migration is not enough funny :) | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:04 <udono> carlos: second is my experience, too | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:04 <carlos> ACTION likes to be optimistic :-P | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:05 <udono> carlos: the same was the step from 4.0.3 to 4.2.. | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:07 <carlos> we may try to do a migration script from 4.2 to Tryton | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:07 <carlos> :-P | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:08 <udono> carlos: I heard about, that there already is something like this... | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:08 <carlos> udono: I think cedk told me that someone started doing something like that | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:09 <carlos> but I didn't have time yet to look into it, having a chart of accounts is the first step :-P | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:09 <cedk> carlos: yes for accounting, it was gadaga | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:10 <udono> ACTION ask himself: who wants to start with a tainted database? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:12 <carlos> udono: I don't plan to do a schema migration | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:12 <carlos> but to migrate the data from a TinyERP database to a fresh Tryton one | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:13 <carlos> just like a migration from OpenBravo or any other ERP | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:14 <udono> carlos: Sorry, but my last experiences with the accounting module and the produced moves were bad. But maybe it depends on misconfiguration and misuse. I hope for their customers, that the new openerp version has a better accounting... | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:14 <udono> ACTION taking about 4.0.3 | ||
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| 2009-02-05 19:15 <carlos> udono: hmm, I also had problems with it, but I think is more related with the Spanish chart of accounts | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:16 <carlos> udono: basically, we closed the year with loses, and OpenERP says that we had benefits | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:16 <carlos> udono: however, the problem is with the sign of the calculation | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:16 <udono> carlos: but that's a fine feature! | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:16 <carlos> udono: indeed, if you have it in your bank account :-P | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:17 <udono> :-D | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:17 <udono> Anyway, we should send them a cake from Tryton for Version 5.0 | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:19 <cedk> http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/06/sweet-plugin-microsoft-cake-20-for-firefox-3/ | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:19 <carlos> udono: yeah, that would be a good idea | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:20 <cedk> hopefully, we don't buy it before the real day :-) | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:20 <carlos> ;-) | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:23 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Hey for the production module(s), I know there was some design misunderstandings still, should I just start coding and pasting models until we are in agreement ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:24 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: I think before coding we must discuss about the design of models | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:28 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: something like the graph on Models | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:28 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: with the relation between models | ||
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| 2009-02-05 19:30 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: I said that I will do it but I had not yet time | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:30 <cristi_an> cedk: i asked you before. | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:30 <cristi_an> :) | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:30 <cristi_an> cedk: but all in one instalation | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:30 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Yeah you seem pretty busy with the factoring, so you want me to make a graph ? Which graph are you talking about ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:31 <cristi_an> on windows, is that so hard to do ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:31 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: for me, I will write a little module with the model definitions and print the graph from the client | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:32 <cedk> cristi_an: an all in one is a very bad idea | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:32 <cedk> cristi_an: for the next version, we will make a setup.exe for the server | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:34 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: perhaps you could create this module on intuxication and share the access | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:35 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Oh fancy I didn't know this functionality existed, so it will just print a specific module's models? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:35 <cristi_an> cedk: why is so bad...? open erp has like 700 downlosd each day of all in one | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:35 <cristi_an> that is not a number on which you say is a bad idea | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:36 <cristi_an> however you know the details... | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:36 <cristi_an> of tryton | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:38 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: the selected models with relation until the specify depth | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:38 <cedk> cristi_an: who told you that? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:39 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: What does depth mean ? Like with respect to the relationships to other modules? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:39 <cedk> cristi_an: it is bad because it install postgresql in background, creating hide system user with every time the same password | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:39 <cedk> cristi_an: for me, it must be considered like a security hole | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:39 <cristi_an> http://doc.openerp.com./book/0_Foreword/0_Foreword.html#open-source-software-at-the-service-of-management | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:40 <cristi_an> "The results are quite impressive. Tiny ERP, now Open ERP, is management software that is downloaded more than any other in the world, with over 600 downloads per day. It’s available today in 18 languages and " | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:40 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: the reports don't care abour modules, he follow each selected models and print it and their relation (like many2one, many2many) until a specify depth | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:40 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: try it and you will understand | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:41 <cedk> cristi_an: do you trust marketing stuffs? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:41 <vengfulsquirrel> Yeah I'm missing some binaries and trying to install it now. | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:41 <cedk> cristi_an: it is a peak value | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:44 <cedk> cristi_an: for me, installing on windows will need 3 steps: | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:45 <cedk> - install postgresql (optional) | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:45 <cedk> - install the server | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:45 <cedk> - install the client | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:48 <cristi_an> cedk: why so if all are possible | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:48 <cristi_an> why not to them once :) | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:48 <cristi_an> ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:50 <cedk> cristi_an: because postgresql need a the creation of a system user | ||
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| 2009-02-05 19:51 <cristi_an> last thing today ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:52 <cristi_an> how open erp does this | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:52 <cristi_an> ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:54 <cedk> cristi_an: like I said, it create a system user with a default password | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:54 <cedk> cristi_an: and this is bad | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:54 <cristi_an> so ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:54 <cristi_an> that can be very easy ...deleted...after | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:55 <cristi_an> or modifed | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:55 <cristi_an> the password | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:55 <cristi_an> the default one | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:57 <cedk> cristi_an: this is the password: 0p3npgsvcPWD | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:57 <cedk> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp/openerp/win-installer-trunk/annotate/head%3A/setup.nsi | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:57 <cristi_an> i know since i needed | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:57 <cristi_an> to delete databases | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:57 <carlos> we should start doing some marketing like http://www.slideshare.net/tiny07/the-open-erp-effect | ||
| 2009-02-05 19:57 <cristi_an> crested | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:01 <cedk> cristi_an: if you explain that to any good admin IT, i will never install this software | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:01 <cedk> cristi_an: we must keep a good image and not making bad stuff just to make the same as OpenERP | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:02 <cedk> carlos: ok, but better than that :-) | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:02 <carlos> cedk: sure, anything better is always a good thing ;-) | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:04 <cedk> carlos: it looks like a joke | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:05 <carlos> well, that's the kind of explanations for 'stupids' that people that don't know about technology like in Spain... | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:06 <carlos> bad term... 'stupids' == dummies | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:07 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: do you run it? | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:07 <cedk> carlos: it depends with who you speak | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:08 <carlos> sure, I'm just pointing that it has some audience | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:09 <cedk> carlos: bechamel and me are devs so we are not the right person to produce such stuff | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:09 <carlos> I'm also a developer, however, my partners are not | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:09 <carlos> so I will try to get something | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:12 <cedk> carlos: a first step, could be a document with the features of Tryton and modules | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:12 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Yeah I had to compile graphiz with gentoo so it took a while. Looks good. Okay yeah so that's what I was thinking I'd just start writing the models, make those graphs and put the code on intuxication. I have no idea how to use intuxication but I'll check it out. | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:12 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: intuxication is simple, you will see | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:12 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: ok, ping me when you had something | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:13 <carlos> cedk: yeah, that's the kind of information I would like to see in the brochure I talked about | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:15 <carlos> cedk: btw, I'm 'opening' 2009 for my company in OpenERP (a fast solution while I finish testing my Tryton's chart of accounts) and I wonder how Tryton handles the invoice sequence numbers, because OpenERP keeps using the one from 2008 (it's not yet closed) | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:16 <cedk> carlos: one sequence per periods and invoice type | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:17 <cedk> carlos: but it can be the same over one fiscal year | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:17 <bechamel> carlos: for the folder, one should start define the form (regular a4, 3-fold a4, etc) and the intended audience (dummies vs technician) ... | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:17 <carlos> cedk: but is it done manually or automatically? | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:17 <carlos> cedk: my testing installations of Tryton have no sequences at all, I need to create all of them | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:17 <cedk> carlos: you must set a default one on fiscal year and the button to create periods will be this one as default | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:18 <carlos> cedk: are they supposed to be created with the chart of accounts? | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:18 <cedk> carlos: and by the way, you can setup the same sequence for different invoice type (it is like you want) | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:18 <carlos> ok | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:18 <cedk> carlos: no, their are created manualy | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:19 <carlos> bechamel: yeah, I'm thinking on a 3-fold one for 'dummies' | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:19 <cedk> s/their/they/ | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:19 <carlos> cedk: ok | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:19 <cedk> carlos: and once the sequence has been used, you can no more change it | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:20 <carlos> cedk: I guess it makes sense | ||
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| 2009-02-05 20:22 <cedk> carlos: this is a better behavior than the OpenERP, because it allow to work on different fiscal year with the fear of bad sequence | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:26 <carlos> well, OpenERP one is a bad behaviour, we sent an invoice with the wrong number, because my partner didn't know I didn't check that part yet | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:26 <cedk> carlos: yes, it is not multi-user aware for this part | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:26 <carlos> so anything to prevent that situation is welcomed | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:28 <cedk> carlos: we discuss with timitos and others about the best way to handle this | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:28 <cedk> s/discuss/discussed/ | ||
| 2009-02-05 20:29 <carlos> dude I wish I could start already with Tryton... | ||
| 2009-02-05 21:46 <carlos> I'm getting this error with Tryton 1.0 | ||
| 2009-02-05 21:46 <carlos> File "build/bdist.macosx-10.3-fat/egg/genshi/template/loader.py", line 203, in load | ||
| 2009-02-05 21:46 <carlos> encoding=encoding) | ||
| 2009-02-05 21:46 <carlos> TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'basedir' | ||
| 2009-02-05 21:47 <carlos> what am I missing? | ||
| 2009-02-05 21:47 <carlos> I get it everytime I try to print a report and now, when I confirmed an invoice | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:07 <vengfulsquirrel> carlos: maybe your version of genshi is too new | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:07 <carlos> 0.5.0-1 | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:07 <carlos> is it too new? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:08 <carlos> what I don't understand is that I don't find any 'basedir' string on Tryton, relatorio or genshi | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:13 <bechamel> carlos: here I have genshi 0.5.1 | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:14 <carlos> so it's not so new | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:14 <bechamel> carlos: and which version of relatorio have you got ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:14 <carlos> ACTION will play with gdb after dinner... | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:14 <carlos> let me check... | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:15 <carlos> relatorio-0.4.1-py2.5.egg | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:15 <carlos> I think it's latest | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:15 <carlos> easy_install says that I have latest version | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:15 <vengfulsquirrel> I was going off this: http://genshi.edgewall.org/ticket/207 : basedir should now be filepath. | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:16 <bechamel> here relatorio version is 'trunk' :) | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:17 <carlos> bechamel: well, I hope Tryton 1.0 doesn't depend on a development version of relatorio :-) | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:17 <bechamel> carlos: the last tag is 0.4.1 | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:17 <cedk> carlos: no | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:19 <vengfulsquirrel> I am using relatorio-0.4.1-py2.5 . | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:20 <cedk> carlos: you must upgrade to genshi-0.5.1 | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:22 <carlos> let me try... | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:23 <cedk> carlos: could you copy/paste all the traceback | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:24 <carlos> cedk: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/102921/ | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:26 <carlos> cedk: 0.5.1 fixed the problem | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:29 <cedk> carlos: I find anywhere the version 0.5.0-1 | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:29 <cedk> carlos: where did you get it? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:29 <carlos> cedk: it's the version that comes with latest Ubuntu stable | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:30 <cedk> carlos: you are not on macosx? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:30 <carlos> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/genshi/0.5.0-1 | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:31 <carlos> cedk: no, I'm not | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:31 <carlos> for some reason, I think I was using an egg that pdb is not able to debug | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:32 <carlos> which is the same reason the backtrace is showing a macos path | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:32 <cedk> carlos: why did you get "build/bdist.macosx-10.3-fat/egg/genshi/template/loader.py" | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:32 <cedk> it is a build for macosx | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:32 <carlos> I know, I was as confused as you are | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:33 <carlos> let me try to reinstall the Ubuntu package | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:33 <cedk> because for what I see from the official verion 0.5.0, it must have not issue | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:33 <carlos> I got the 0.5.1 with easy_install after removing the Ubuntu version | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:33 <cedk> carlos: run without pdb | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:34 <carlos> the backtrace I pasted is without pdb | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:35 <carlos> hmm I think I know what's the problem... | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:36 <carlos> for some reason, I had a Genshi 0.4.4 egg | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:36 <cedk> carlos: which version of python do you have? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:36 <carlos> 2.5 | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:36 <cedk> carlos: the macosx-10.3 is for python 2.4 | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:36 <carlos> but I think the problem was that old egg | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:37 <carlos> I have other developments using Genshi, so I guess I installed that at some point before starting with Tryton | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:37 <cedk> it must be the reason for the fact that the line number doesn't match | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:37 <carlos> cedk: yeah | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:37 <cedk> carlos: ok, so I think that the dependency in relatorio are ok | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:37 <carlos> confirmed, that's it | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:38 <carlos> because the standard Ubuntu package works (0.5.0) | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:38 <carlos> the problem is gone now that I removed the 0.4.4 egg | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:38 <carlos> thanks for your help | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:41 <carlos> hmm, I'm having problems with non ascii characters and OO reports | ||
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| 2009-02-05 22:42 <carlos> cedk: is that supposed to be working by default, I'm not even able to see the euro character | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:42 <cedk> carlos: yes | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:42 <carlos> the other problems are with the chart of accounts taxes | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:42 <cedk> carlos: what do you print | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:42 <carlos> an invoice | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:42 <carlos> I didn't change any report | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:43 <carlos> I'm using the standard ones from Tryton | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:43 <cedk> carlos: what do you see? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:46 <carlos> cedk: http://www.pemas.es/tmp/tryton-invoice.png | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:47 <carlos> cedk: If I copy and paste the character that is supposed to be the euro symbol I get this: € | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:48 <carlos> which is the euro sign + some garbage that is not visible | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:48 <cedk> carlos: what is the locale of the server? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:48 <carlos> es_ES.UTF-8 | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:48 <carlos> it's my laptop, I'm running the server and the client on it | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:48 <cedk> carlos: what did you get in "Currency Management>Currencies" for euro? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:49 <cedk> carlos: by the way, is it an invoice openned? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:50 <cedk> carlos: and if yes, is it openned before the genshi fix? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:50 <carlos> I get the right euro symbol | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:50 <carlos> it's an invoice openned | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:50 <carlos> and I was not able to open it until I fixed the genshi problem | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:50 <carlos> however, it was set as a proforma invoice first | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:50 <carlos> before the genshi fix | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:50 <carlos> let me create a new one | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:52 <carlos> same problem with a new invoice | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:53 <cedk> carlos: could you send me the odt? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:53 <carlos> the generated one? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:53 <carlos> sure | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:54 <cedk> carlos: yes | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:55 <carlos> does file sending work with IRC? (is long time since last time I used it :-P) | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:57 <carlos> cedk: http://www.pemas.es/tmp/tryton_AQkArc.odt | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:58 <cedk> carlos: I get the euro | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:58 <cedk> carlos: i think it must be a missing font | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:58 <carlos> which font is used by default? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:59 <carlos> Thorndale AMT ? | ||
| 2009-02-05 22:59 <cedk> carlos: on branch 1.0, it is Thorndale AMT | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:00 <carlos> ACTION looks for it | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:00 <cedk> carlos: on next branches, we will use: Liberation | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:01 <carlos> I have Liberation installed | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:01 <carlos> but Thorndale seems to be missing | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:03 <cedk> carlos: so Ooo select one that looks closed but the one it selects for you have not € symbol | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:04 <carlos> cedk: yeah, I changed the font type to Liberation | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:04 <carlos> and I see everything ok | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:05 <carlos> so I'm going to change the templates | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:07 <cedk> carlos: you can save your customize report in "Administration>User Interface>Actions>Reports" | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:07 <cedk> carlos: then select the report and set the new one in the "Content" field | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:07 <cedk> carlos: it will be stored in the database | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:08 <cedk> carlos: or you can write a module with the odt file and create a new ir.action.report entry and deactivate the default one | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:08 <carlos> cool | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:08 <carlos> is it a new feature in Tryton or OpenERP is supposed to allow the same? | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:09 <cedk> carlos: oups desactivate doesn't exist in 1.0 | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:09 <cedk> carlos: the content exists in OpenERP, deactivate not | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:10 <carlos> cedk: I blame misdocumentation then, I had to change the templates in the file system directly :-P | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:10 <carlos> cedk: so with 1.2 we are able to override reports directly with a new module installation | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:10 <carlos> cool | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:11 <cedk> carlos: it is possible in 1.0 but not recommended | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:11 <cedk> carlos: because it can break translation | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:11 <carlos> because you get two reports? the old and the new? | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:11 <carlos> ok | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:12 <cedk> carlos: yes | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:15 <cedk> carlos: and there is constraint on 1.0 | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:20 <carlos> cedk: ok | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:21 <carlos> cedk: how am I supposed to change the template? | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:21 <carlos> I don't see a way to upload the new template | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:22 <carlos> should I use the attachment button? | ||
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| 2009-02-05 23:27 <carlos> hmm | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:27 <carlos> I'm sooo blind... | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:27 <carlos> cedk: I found it, sorry :-P | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:31 <carlos> enough for today | ||
| 2009-02-05 23:31 <carlos> good night!!! | ||
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