| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu May 14 00:00:02 CEST 2009 | ||
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| 2009-05-14 07:50 <CIA-48> Timitos roundup * #1025/Translation: account.tax.code.template do not appear in ir_translation: updated | ||
| 2009-05-14 07:50 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1025 | ||
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| 2009-05-14 10:51 <LordVan> hi | ||
| 2009-05-14 10:54 <LordVan> how / where does one enter the uid tax prefix types? | ||
| 2009-05-14 10:57 <cedk> LordVan: what do you call uid tax? | ||
| 2009-05-14 10:58 <LordVan> ust. id präfix | ||
| 2009-05-14 10:58 <LordVan> like ATU 234345 | ||
| 2009-05-14 10:59 <cedk> LordVan: what is the purpose of this uid? | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:00 <LordVan> it's assigned to companies for VAT purposes | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:00 <LordVan> in party page | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:00 <LordVan> sth about checking it with VIES | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:00 <LordVan> is at bottom of screen | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:00 <LordVan> but if i enter sth it won't do a thing so i think they have to be set somewhere? | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:02 <cedk> LordVan: ok, I undertand, you must select AT in country selection | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:02 <LordVan> did | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:02 <LordVan> that part is in bookkeeping tab | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:03 <LordVan> aha | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:03 <LordVan> it tells me i need current version of vatnumber | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:03 <LordVan> that should be a dep maybe in gentoo ebuilds? | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:07 <cedk> LordVan: an option at least | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:07 <cedk> LordVan: can you fill an issue | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:07 <LordVan> on tryton.org | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:08 <LordVan> hmm i wonder if i have a login already | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:10 <LordVan> cedk, shall i put in title that it should be dep for app-tryton/party right? | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:11 <cedk> LordVan: yes | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:11 <LordVan> btw a component gentoo ebuilds would be nice | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:11 <CIA-48> lordvan roundup * #1049/Gentoo ebuild for app-tryton/party should have dep for dev-python/vatnumber: [new] Gentoo ebuild for app-tryton/party should require vatnumber package (with local USE flag would be fine) | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:11 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1049 | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:12 <cedk> LordVan: what do you mean by compenent ? | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:12 <LordVan> well in bugtracker | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:12 <LordVan> component: party | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:12 <LordVan> could add gentoo ebuilds there | ||
| 2009-05-14 11:14 <cedk> LordVan: ha ok | ||
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| 2009-05-14 12:58 <LordVan> another thing .. | ||
| 2009-05-14 12:58 <LordVan> customers and clients of course already have customer/client numbers assigned .. is there a way to add them somewhere - preferrably searchable? cuz code is just increment afaik | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:12 <udono1> LordVan: Hi, you are talking about the party code? | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:13 <udono1> LordVan: Take a look at Administration > Sequences > Sequences, Party | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:20 <LordVan> i'll look thanks | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:22 <LordVan> hmm i can't do it in the way i'd need it .. sucks | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:23 <LordVan> our customer numbers are like 20<position of letter in alphabet>.<incremental 4 digit sequence> | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:25 <LordVan> and for ppl who we buy off it starts with 30 and same pattern | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:25 <LordVan> quite effective for searching | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:27 <LordVan> i recon that'd be difficult to implement | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:27 <LordVan> or just make the customer number to entered manually? | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:35 <LordVan> problem is it is a requirement .. but if the code / customer number can be made unique but *not* sequence - ie be able to enter manually that woudl be ok | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:39 <carlos> LordVan: What happens if you buy from and sell to the same party? | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:40 <LordVan> they have 2 numbers | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:40 <LordVan> which is an issue i guess | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:40 <LordVan> each party can have a customer number and / or a supplier one | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:41 <LordVan> they are purpousely so that u can distinguish because they all start with 2 for customers and 3 for suppliers | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:41 <LordVan> but u r right 2 codes wouldn't work in current system now woudl it? .. | ||
| 2009-05-14 13:41 <LordVan> i mean i don't really care if the code is incremental or not as long as ic an store those numbers and pritn them on invoices,.. | ||
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| 2009-05-14 14:01 <LordVan> ah | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:01 <LordVan> i could add a field to the party model .. | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:03 <LordVan> if it would let me but i guess that is intended? | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:07 <LordVan> ACTION pokes around to try to find out about adding extra fields to parties | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:12 <cedk> LordVan: it can be done with a custom module | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:12 <cedk> LordVan: you can extend any Model | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:13 <cedk> LordVan: you can look at the module account_product, it adds some fields to product.product | ||
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| 2009-05-14 14:14 <LordVan> hmm | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:14 <LordVan> do i'd for example make one that extends party | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:15 <cedk> LordVan: yes | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:15 <cedk> LordVan: as you need a special way to store codes on party | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:15 <LordVan> i am wondering though if custom customer / supplier numbers wouldn't be good for the normal party module anyway - particularily for ppl who have pre-existing data | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:16 <LordVan> cedk, well implementing it so that it automagically will increment one for beginning letter is bit pointless imho, but uniqueness is important | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:16 <LordVan> so i was thinking 2 optional fields | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:16 <LordVan> which contain that data | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:17 <cedk> LordVan: having to numbering for party doesn't feet well with the design of Tryton | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:19 <LordVan> cedk, well for initial import it is needed isn't it? | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:19 <cedk> LordVan: it depends | ||
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| 2009-05-14 14:22 <LordVan> cedk, is it that unusual though that if a company is a customer and supplier to have 2 different numbers e.g. for bookkeeping,.. ? | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:25 <cedk> LordVan: I don't see the useful | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:25 <cedk> LordVan: in Tryton, you will type the first letter of the name of the party and it will search for you | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:26 <LordVan> cedk, i duno about it but currently that is how it works for us and customers of course know their numbers - well some of them ;) | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:26 <LordVan> it was sth about bookkeeping with numbers 2xxx.xxxx being customers and 3xxx.xxxx suppliers | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:26 <LordVan> duno about bookkeeping though | ||
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| 2009-05-14 14:28 <cedk> LordVan: so if they have only one number, you can migrate the data | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:30 <LordVan> well they have 2 | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:30 <LordVan> afaik | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:30 <LordVan> i think in current bookkeeping each of the ones that is customer and supplier has 2 numbers | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:30 <LordVan> although it's not too many of them that need 2 | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:30 <LordVan> problem is convincing bookkeeping ppl to change it - also doubt u can change it in current bookkeepign software :( | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:31 <LordVan> also bookkeeping person = boss's wife = my mum | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:31 <LordVan> rofl | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:33 <LordVan> cedk, basically if all of it including bookkeeping was migrated to tryton prolly not much of an issue i can export and merge those which have 2 and then somehow make them into 1 format .. but since i doubt they | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:33 <LordVan> 'd change bookkeeping software it is a bit of an issue.. | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:33 <LordVan> i mean I have to say for finding things on paper and/or sorting having the number of the letter in the alphabet has advantages | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:36 <LordVan> ok i just got explaination | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:36 <LordVan> it is bookkeeping internal number thing .. | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:36 <LordVan> class 2 customer | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:36 <LordVan> class 3 supplier | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:36 <LordVan> that y 2 / 3 at front of number | ||
| 2009-05-14 14:37 <LordVan> that mean anything to you? | ||
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| 2009-05-14 15:00 <cedk> LordVan: I know that some softwares work like that but it is an old way inherited from the manual accounting | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:07 <LordVan> yeah | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:08 <LordVan> prob when u try to get ppl who did it that way for 30 odd years to nto do it anymore .. ;) | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:08 <cedk> LordVan: you simply add a checkboxes for suuplier / customer and append 2 or 3 to the code | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:08 <LordVan> anyway isn't there any way to just add 2 custom char fields to party without extending it? | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:09 <LordVan> cedk, well not exactly since the other part is letter in alphabet ie first customer starting with letter A is 2001.0001 | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:16 <LordVan> hmm | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:16 <LordVan> thing is for now it'd be enough to be just able to print it on the invoices .. | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:19 <cedk> LordVan: don't understand the numbering | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:20 <LordVan> <bookkeeping code (20 customer, 33 supplier><ord(name[0]>.<%04d sequence> | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:20 <LordVan> better? ;) | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:20 <LordVan> well not ord | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:20 <LordVan> ord(name[0])- ord('A') | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:21 <LordVan> (assuming all r captials but u get the idea i assume) | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:23 <cedk> LordVan: you can override the create function of party.party and implement your own | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:23 <LordVan> the thing after the dot is just incrementing sequence starting at 1 . ;) | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:23 <LordVan> still won't solve my problem of having 2numbers .. | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:24 <cedk> LordVan: for that you must have a two other fields that tells if it is a customer/supplier | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:24 <LordVan> yeah | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:25 <LordVan> if it wasn't for the stupid 1 company having potentially a customer and supplier number it'd be fairly easy | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:26 <LordVan> cedk, but if i override party.party i'd have problems with updated won't i? | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:26 <LordVan> i'll have to extend it and keep it working | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:27 <LordVan> hmm | ||
| 2009-05-14 15:27 <LordVan> well i guess for now i'd put that into the category it can be changed to what we want but there's no point until we are sure we really are going to use it dept ;) | ||
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| 2009-05-14 16:40 <carlos> cedk: hi, I would like to confirm a couple of things related with our conversation from last week about tax rules. Do you have some time now? | ||
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| 2009-05-14 22:15 <carlos> cedk: hi, did you see my request from this afternoon? Do you have some time to talk now? | ||
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