IRC logs of #tryton for Saturday, 2009-07-04

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sat Jul 4 00:00:02 CEST 2009
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2009-07-04 01:28 <Kovert> i have installed tryton but i am having issues creating the database
2009-07-04 01:29 <Kovert> it is going me user auth errors
2009-07-04 01:29 <Kovert> i created a database in mysqladmin
2009-07-04 01:30 <Kovert> made my self a user
2009-07-04 01:30 <Kovert> and I belive game my self all rights
2009-07-04 01:34 <Kovert> no module named yaml?
2009-07-04 01:44 <Kovert> fixed that still no auth
2009-07-04 01:44 <bechamel> Kovert: tryton works with postgresql not mysql
2009-07-04 01:45 <Kovert> oh!
2009-07-04 01:46 <Kovert> forgot that
2009-07-04 01:46 <Kovert> whats the admin for that?
2009-07-04 01:46 <Kovert> (program)
2009-07-04 01:48 <bechamel> Kovert: I don't know, I always use the command line
2009-07-04 01:49 <Kovert> pgadmin
2009-07-04 01:49 <bechamel> Kovert: you can try "createuser the_user_that_run_tryton"
2009-07-04 01:53 <Kovert> installing pgadmin
2009-07-04 01:58 <Kovert> think my postgresql isnt running
2009-07-04 02:09 <CIA-70> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 166:b3cc1045b43c company/doc/index.rst: Improved doc
2009-07-04 02:09 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/company/rev/b3cc1045b43c
2009-07-04 02:14 <Kovert> is there a standard postgres password
2009-07-04 02:15 <Kovert> default
2009-07-04 02:34 <bechamel> Kovert: the default behaviour is that logged-in can use the local database without password
2009-07-04 03:04 <Kovert> i can not create the database
2009-07-04 03:04 <Kovert> it keeps giving me auth errors
2009-07-04 03:04 <Kovert> fo rthe user who is me
2009-07-04 03:05 <Kovert> i know postgres is running
2009-07-04 03:05 <Kovert> I made my self a super user in it
2009-07-04 03:05 <Kovert> i game my self the abitities to creade databases
2009-07-04 03:07 <Kovert> FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "bozo"
2009-07-04 03:09 <Kovert> do i need to create the container first?
2009-07-04 03:10 <bechamel> Kovert: are you on a linux box ?
2009-07-04 03:13 <bechamel> if yes you can try "creatuser your_username", then "createdb test" and "/pathto/bin/trytond -d test -iall"
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2009-07-04 03:18 <Kovert> I iwll try
2009-07-04 03:20 <Kovert> how do you get in to postgres to do that
2009-07-04 03:20 <Kovert> i used the gui
2009-07-04 03:24 <Kovert> psql -c "createdb test" like this
2009-07-04 03:25 <Kovert> psql -c createdb test (like this)
2009-07-04 03:28 <Kovert> ok got that
2009-07-04 03:28 <Kovert> no "-c"
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2009-07-04 11:02 <CIA-70> Timitos roundup * #1099/function of field 'blocked' from account.move.line:
2009-07-04 11:02 <CIA-70> [new] what function does have this field?
2009-07-04 11:02 <CIA-70> i did not find any function of this field.
2009-07-04 11:02 <CIA-70> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1099
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2009-07-04 15:19 <CIA-70> htgoebel roundup * #1100/Patch: code cleanup for client setup.py: [new] Enclosed please find some patches for cleanup of client setup.py. They simplify the code, remove redundancies and -- for py2app -- remove mo ...
2009-07-04 15:19 <CIA-70> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1100
2009-07-04 15:51 <CIA-70> htgoebel roundup * #1101/Patch: code cleanup for client setup.py: py2app spawned shell script: [new] enclosed please find a patch removing a shell script from setup.py. Instead of building a long string containing the shell script, do more i ...
2009-07-04 15:51 <CIA-70> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1101
2009-07-04 15:53 <CIA-70> htgoebel roundup * #1092/Patch: code cleanup for all modules setup.py: Well, so feel free to replace all occurrences of 'trytond < %s.%s' with one containing a single space prior to applying the patchset. :-)
2009-07-04 15:53 <CIA-70> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1092
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2009-07-04 18:33 <Kovert> I am having trouble creating the database in trytron...
2009-07-04 18:33 <Kovert> postgre is running
2009-07-04 18:33 <Kovert> but whenet auth errors it try to create it I g
2009-07-04 18:33 <Kovert> et
2009-07-04 18:33 <Kovert> auth errors
2009-07-04 18:34 <Kovert> rinningt kubintu 9.04
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2009-07-04 18:41 <carlos> Kovert: does your tryton db user have rights to create databases?
2009-07-04 18:42 <Kovert> I will check
2009-07-04 18:42 <Kovert> I am the user
2009-07-04 18:43 <Kovert> both "tryton and I have" the rights according to pgAdmin
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2009-07-04 18:53 <Kovert> this is the most fustrsating program to install
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2009-07-04 19:02 <cedk> Kovert: what are you doing exactly?
2009-07-04 19:03 <Kovert> i belive iu have installed everything made sure postgres is running and I am trying to create the data base
2009-07-04 19:03 <Kovert> when i do using my self as the user I get a auth error
2009-07-04 19:05 <Kovert> both tryton and my self has the right to creat databases
2009-07-04 19:09 <cedk> Kovert: how?
2009-07-04 19:10 <Kovert> in pgAdmin I have my self and tryton listed as superuser wiith rights to create
2009-07-04 19:10 <Kovert> i am at the loginto tryton cleint screen
2009-07-04 19:11 <Kovert> I am the user with my default password
2009-07-04 19:11 <cedk> Kovert: which default password?
2009-07-04 19:11 <Kovert> and thenwell the user is me and the password is mine
2009-07-04 19:12 <Kovert> i go to create database
2009-07-04 19:12 <cedk> Kovert: which user, password ? Because you said that you have not created database
2009-07-04 19:12 <Kovert> well i go to the create database screen
2009-07-04 19:12 <Kovert> create new database
2009-07-04 19:13 <Kovert> admin for the tryton server password give the name of the database as tryton
2009-07-04 19:13 <Kovert> and the admin passowrd for postgres
2009-07-04 19:14 <cedk> Kovert: you must not enter admin password for postgres
2009-07-04 19:14 <cedk> Kovert: in fact, I don't know what you mean
2009-07-04 19:14 <Kovert> ok i iwll describe screen
2009-07-04 19:15 <Kovert> it says create new database
2009-07-04 19:15 <Kovert> it in in tryton client
2009-07-04 19:15 <cedk> Kovert: what is exactly the error message?
2009-07-04 19:16 <Kovert> let me get it
2009-07-04 19:17 <Kovert> back in 10 min
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2009-07-04 19:50 <Kovert> FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "joe"
2009-07-04 19:50 <Kovert> sorry about the interuption
2009-07-04 19:57 <yangoon> Kovert: is it on database creation?
2009-07-04 19:59 <Kovert> yes
2009-07-04 20:00 <yangoon> Kovert: if you are using IDENT authentification, then the user running the client must be the same as the postgres user for tryton databases
2009-07-04 20:00 <yangoon> Kovert: and it should be on the same machine
2009-07-04 20:00 <yangoon> Kovert: client and postgres
2009-07-04 20:01 <Kovert> it is and joe is my login name to the machine
2009-07-04 20:01 <yangoon> Kovert: depends on the distro and postgres configuration you are running
2009-07-04 20:01 <Kovert> i havde made a postgres user named joe
2009-07-04 20:02 <Kovert> kubuntu 9.04
2009-07-04 20:03 <cedk> Kovert: the trytond server can not login to postgres
2009-07-04 20:03 <Kovert> ok how do i fix this
2009-07-04 20:03 <cedk> Kovert: if you have setup a password into postgres, you must configure it in trytond.conf
2009-07-04 20:03 <Kovert> ah
2009-07-04 20:04 <cedk> Kovert: you can test with this command: psql template1 -U joe
2009-07-04 20:06 <cedk> Kovert: you can read: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.2/static/client-authentication.html
2009-07-04 20:06 <Kovert> psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "joe"
2009-07-04 20:06 <cedk> Kovert: so you can not connect to postgres with this user
2009-07-04 20:07 <Kovert> so what do i do?
2009-07-04 20:07 <cedk> Kovert: configure postgresql
2009-07-04 20:08 <cedk> Kovert: this can help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
2009-07-04 20:08 <Kovert> i have made this user in pgAdmin
2009-07-04 20:08 <cedk> Kovert: doesn't seem to work as you can not connect
2009-07-04 20:09 <cedk> bbl
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2009-07-04 20:17 <Kovert> it's alive!
2009-07-04 20:18 <Kovert> hod do i add modules
2009-07-04 20:18 <Kovert> how
2009-07-04 20:18 <carlos> Kovert: put them at trytond/trytond/modules directories
2009-07-04 20:19 <carlos> restart tryton and activate them from the Administration menu
2009-07-04 20:19 <carlos> Administration / Modules
2009-07-04 20:19 <Kovert> where do i get them
2009-07-04 20:20 <carlos> http://downloads.tryton.org/1.2/
2009-07-04 20:21 <carlos> all tryton_* are modules
2009-07-04 20:22 <Kovert> i see
2009-07-04 20:22 <carlos> I mean trytond_*
2009-07-04 20:24 <Kovert> where is the base tryton installation i sytarted this so long ago
2009-07-04 20:25 <carlos> well, it depends on how did you install it
2009-07-04 20:25 <Kovert> mecurial
2009-07-04 20:26 <carlos> that's how did you get it
2009-07-04 20:26 <carlos> btw, the modules could be download also using Mercurial
2009-07-04 20:26 <Kovert> oh how so
2009-07-04 20:26 <carlos> http://hg.tryton.org/hgwebdir.cgi/
2009-07-04 20:28 <Kovert> what is the ifffference between 1.2 and the unnumbered
2009-07-04 20:28 <Kovert> noit numbered unstable
2009-07-04 20:28 <Kovert> ?
2009-07-04 20:34 <Kovert> i can install them automajically
2009-07-04 20:39 <carlos> Kovert: right, the one without number is the development series
2009-07-04 20:40 <carlos> Kovert: If you are using Mercurial for installing Tryton, I recomend you to follow the guide at http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationMercurial
2009-07-04 20:40 <Kovert> so i am almost done
2009-07-04 20:41 <carlos> Kovert: the Automatic Way section provides you a script that will download Tryton and all the modules
2009-07-04 20:41 <Kovert> i got threm all working
2009-07-04 20:41 <carlos> Kovert: also, is better if you stay with 1.2 if you are going to use it on production
2009-07-04 20:41 <carlos> ok
2009-07-04 20:41 <Kovert> hoiw can i get tryton as a menu item in kubuntu?
2009-07-04 20:44 <carlos> either you install the client
2009-07-04 20:45 <carlos> or you copy the tryton.desktop file into /usr/share/applications/ and either you have tryton client in your system path or you update the .desktop file to point to the executable location
2009-07-04 20:47 <Kovert> thanks'
2009-07-04 20:50 <carlos> you are welcome
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2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 3:17d0d3d807c6 tryton-windows/install-tryton-client.py:
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> Added ugly hack to complete installation of GTK runtime: The 2.12.9
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> package is missing libgio. Thus we need to download the glib package
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> and extract the files there.
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/17d0d3d807c6
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 4:36de68fd36be tryton-windows/ (install-tryton-client.py install-tryton-server.py): simplified download()
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/36de68fd36be
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 5:8afa7e9a6610 tryton-windows/windownload_helpers.py: download in chunks of 10000 bytes
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/8afa7e9a6610
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 6:eccc3a4a4d49 tryton-windows/ (install-tryton-client.py install-tryton-server.py): install eggs et al. with --always-unzip to allow py2exe accessing the files
2009-07-04 21:50 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/eccc3a4a4d49
2009-07-04 21:51 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 7:d641e711c4df tryton-windows/install-tryton-client.py: keep download urls for librsvg and Co. for reference
2009-07-04 21:51 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/d641e711c4df
2009-07-04 22:01 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 8:1f47519b96ed tryton-windows/install-tryton-client.py: fixed one missing import
2009-07-04 22:01 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/1f47519b96ed
2009-07-04 22:08 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 9:297495b64ab4 tryton-windows/windownload_helpers.py: removed onClick-Hack for Sourceforge, which is useless now since SF changed page layout
2009-07-04 22:08 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/297495b64ab4
2009-07-04 22:39 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 10:38c2b984ebcb tryton-windows/windownload_helpers.py: added handling of new Sourceforge download pages
2009-07-04 22:39 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/38c2b984ebcb
2009-07-04 22:41 <yangoon> essich: hi
2009-07-04 22:41 <essich> yangoon: hi
2009-07-04 22:42 <yangoon> essich: install-tryton-server.py also says ' The Tryton Client can be found in C:\Python25\Scripts'. This of course is true, but probably this should be for ther server?
2009-07-04 22:43 <yangoon> essich: since the scripts are fixed for a version, shouldn't they better be also in tagged as such in the name?
2009-07-04 22:43 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 11:7e89fbfe6d80 tryton-windows/install-tryton-server.py: fixed docstring
2009-07-04 22:43 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/7e89fbfe6d80
2009-07-04 22:43 <essich> yangoon: fixed :-)
2009-07-04 22:44 <yangoon> essich: fast, faster, essich|cedk
2009-07-04 22:44 <essich> yangoon: maybe. I'm not quite sure how this will work out at all.
2009-07-04 22:45 <essich> yangoon: these are not really installern, but are setting up some kind of development environment
2009-07-04 22:45 <essich> perhaps I'm going to merge the two scripts
2009-07-04 22:46 <yangoon> essich: just thought, because requirements1 and PACKAGES will always be fixed for VERSION
2009-07-04 22:47 <yangoon> essich: great, will test soon
2009-07-04 22:49 <essich> yangoon: fixed to version, since I IMHO the avarage user should not use the development branch but the stable version.
2009-07-04 22:57 <paepke> has someone already tested to create .msi packages for the windows installation? tryton is using the setup-tools, so that would be a good solution. or i'm missing something?
2009-07-04 23:28 <essich> paepke: client or server?
2009-07-04 23:30 <paepke> essich: basically both.
2009-07-04 23:32 <paepke> especially for the client the primary distribution type should be msi, not exe. it can be easily deployed in an windows environment.
2009-07-04 23:34 <essich> paepke: for the client you will propably have problems, since you need to include a lot of other files (GTK)
2009-07-04 23:34 <paepke> relating to the discussion about the community mail. an installer of the windows envirionment with nice "next" and "finish" buttons would be cool, too.
2009-07-04 23:35 <essich> paepke: please check out he new installer scripts I'm working on
2009-07-04 23:35 <paepke> essich: yes, i know about gtk. but hey, we are programmers ;-)
2009-07-04 23:35 <paepke> essich: i'm currently at an linux only environment :-/
2009-07-04 23:37 <paepke> essich: for msi-deployment you can deploy both, gtk and tryton. but as i remember, thera are a couple of packages on windows which depends on gtk. and the have a solution in their installer. for example pidgin and gimp
2009-07-04 23:37 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 12:0f9f32b95db2 tryton-windows/windownload_helpers.py: added support for ...-setup.exe (required fir nsis)
2009-07-04 23:37 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/0f9f32b95db2
2009-07-04 23:37 <CIA-70> Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@goebel-consult.de> default * 13:7b1220c2eed7 tryton-windows/ (install-tryton-client.py install-tryton-server.py): added download/installation of Nullsoft Scriptable Installer (nsis)
2009-07-04 23:37 <CIA-70> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton-windows/rev/7b1220c2eed7
2009-07-04 23:38 <paepke> essich: i saw your scripts, thats why i'm giving my two cents
2009-07-04 23:38 <essich> paepke: I'm coming from Linux, too. And getting a usefull setup for GTK on Windows took mee several days.
2009-07-04 23:39 <essich> here is no such thing like apt, yast or urpmi
2009-07-04 23:40 <essich> for gtk there are no .msi available at all
2009-07-04 23:42 <paepke> i know, i tried it too. finally it ended up in installing the needed gtk libraries everytime again specially for the application.
2009-07-04 23:43 <paepke> i don't see a gtk-installation which fits the needs of the different applications which depends on it on windows.
2009-07-04 23:43 <essich> for a development environment one could use the 'bundle', but setup.py expects to find gtk-demo on the path. So you would have to set %PATH% somehow. It's akward!
2009-07-04 23:44 <paepke> cause the linux-distribution compiles every program against the distribution-provided gtk everythin works fine. but on windows you have different sources of the provided programs
2009-07-04 23:44 <essich> this is why every application brings it's own gtk runtime :-( THis kills theming
2009-07-04 23:45 <paepke> essich: yes. its like some java-based products on windows.
2009-07-04 23:46 <essich> paepke: yes. and we have to decide whether we should bring python with tryton or not. Same problem
2009-07-04 23:46 <paepke> and cause of that: why not providing the necessary libraries whith the tryton msi installer
2009-07-04 23:47 <essich> paepke: if you are able to make this work: go for it!
2009-07-04 23:47 <essich> I suggest stating with the client :-)
2009-07-04 23:47 <paepke> first i need windows :-)
2009-07-04 23:48 <paepke> i'm afraid i cannot do this at the moment. but i'll take a look in it
2009-07-04 23:50 <paepke> python deployment: py2exe is bad cause of the loadable modules?
2009-07-04 23:50 <paepke> loadable modules of tryton
2009-07-04 23:51 <essich> Not really :-)
2009-07-04 23:51 <essich> For an ERP a company wants to deploy a freezed version
2009-07-04 23:52 <paepke> ok, before i discuss more about this, i should take a look on the sourcecode
2009-07-04 23:52 <paepke> essich: ack
2009-07-04 23:53 <essich> what cedk ist talking about is for some kind of extentable end-user server.
2009-07-04 23:53 <essich> in this case we would have some "base application" (tryton framework) and would need some way to add modules.
2009-07-04 23:53 <essich> this is not easy :-)
2009-07-04 23:54 <essich> but perhaps your .msi comes for help
2009-07-04 23:54 <essich> okay, have to leave now
2009-07-04 23:54 <essich> bay, CU
2009-07-04 23:54 <paepke> cu
2009-07-04 23:54 <essich> s/bay/bye/

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