IRC logs of #tryton for Thursday, 2010-02-04

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu Feb 4 00:00:02 CET 2010
cedksharoon: I don't know if it is doable nor good design, it depends of the architecture of network and the information needed etc00:00
sharooncedk: i like the idea! but the limitation would be the network00:00
cedksharoon: but it is an option that must be evaluated00:00
cedksharoon: if not just made a sync00:01
sharooncedk: got it, now one more question.... is it possible to batch perform operations like invoicing, packing etc from list view?00:02
vengfulsquirrel What does "tax include" mean ?00:02
cedkvengfulsquirrel: it is not common in country without VAT :-)00:03
cedksharoon: what do you mean by batch? grouped or underground?00:03
sharoongrouped00:03
cedkvengfulsquirrel: it is when you sell product and the price is with all taxes included00:04
cedksharoon: it is possible to write a wizard00:04
vengfulsquirreloh interesting00:04
sharoonvengfulsquirrel: tac include means a price like 100 EUR is inlusive of tax, so if the tax is 4% then the amounts are (Base:96.154 & Rest as Tax)00:04
sharooncedk: i understand00:05
cedkvengfulsquirrel: the main issue is that most of the time you can not compute the net price and taxe amount00:05
vengfulsquirrelRight, you cannot extract the base price you mean ?  Ie. you lost information00:05
vengfulsquirrel*lose00:05
cedksharoon: with bechamel we thought about improving buttons on list view00:06
sharooncedk: that would be a good idea, since most of the buttons are written for ids00:06
cedksharoon: and now I think we could have an interface to activate all button of a list00:06
sharooncedk: you mean buttons on a list?00:07
sharooncedk: buttons on a list view or separate actions?00:07
cedkvengfulsquirrel: yes, it is not that you lost information but it is because price are writen to have marketing behavior like 99.99€00:07
sharooncedk: cant we achieve this with high precision or money type in postgres/00:08
sharoon?00:08
cedksharoon: buttons on a list already exist but we don't use it because it is not yet enough good00:08
sharooncedk: ok00:08
cedksharoon: no, because on account move you must have currency precision00:09
cedksharoon: it is the same issue then https://lists.launchpad.net/openerp-expert-accounting/msg00016.html00:10
sharooncedk: India's largest accounting package Tally (http://www.tallysolutions.com/website/html/index.html) has this issue and they still have not got over it00:10
cedkvengfulsquirrel: did you find the lock issue?00:11
vengfulsquirrelAs a side note, I import sales with a batch program from a website and then run the workflows in tryton with a program, filling in defaults as necessary.  Also I created a crude POS interface inside tryton.00:11
vengfulsquirrelcedk: No, I tried recreating the stall problem and the operation that ran in 12 minutes now runs in < 12 seconds after I restart trytond.00:12
vengfulsquirrelI think it must be a memory leak of some sort.  I have no idea what else would cause that.00:12
cedkvengfulsquirrel: strange00:12
vengfulsquirrelOr I guess you were saying some sort of connection leak, where connections are piling up and not getting closed.00:12
cedkvengfulsquirrel: we don't have this on our tryton servers that runs on long period00:13
vengfulsquirrelI'm sure it has to do with large number of records.00:13
cedkvengfulsquirrel: perhaps a cron job that doesn't scale00:13
vengfulsquirrelWe also have intermittant network issues which could possible exacerbate some sort of clean up problems.00:14
sharooncedk: happy to say that we did our first tryton project and delivered faster by one day despite our 'tough' code reviews00:14
vengfulsquirrelcedk: Cron jobs run and die though, and I do not run them during the day because they make the clients unusable.  I think maybe due to stock allocation needing to lock the stock tables.00:14
vengfulsquirrelThat is another issue, but I don't think that would permenantly effect the server.00:15
cedksharoon: good, when we said to our customer that we have always delivery in time, they never beleive us :-)00:15
sharooncedk: is anybody working on the email side, from what we have seen so far of tryton i think the only thing thats needed now is the generic triggers and i think you guys may have to do it.00:15
vengfulsquirrelcedk: It is some sort of problem that developes over time, I had the server running since Jan 16th, so that is like a little over 2 weeks.  Have you had servers running longer than that ?00:15
cedkvengfulsquirrel: lock could be fixed by http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/Release_1_6_0#stock00:16
cedksharoon: not yet, only thought00:16
sharooncedk: email we could write the rest of the framework just like how we made poweremail. with generic email accounts and mailboxes00:16
cedkvengfulsquirrel: yes but they have less volum then yours00:17
cedksharoon: yes but it must be well design to be powerfull00:18
cedksharoon: I think mailboxes more like label in gmail00:18
sharooncedk: thats yes how we did before too, just a field to say which folder it is in00:19
sharooncedk: we will keep you in the loop with blueprints before we actually start digging00:19
cedksharoon: I think also that an email could be in many folders00:19
sharooncedk: possible, you mean m2m label?00:20
cedksharoon: yes00:20
sharooncedk: whats the release 1.6 planned?00:20
sharooncedk: when00:20
cedksharoon: http://www.tryton.org/community/calendar.html00:21
cedksharoon: 12 april00:21
sharooncedk: can i follow your calendar, is there a link/00:22
cedksharoon: I can give you xml, ical and html link00:25
cedksharoon: http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/p4jhgp9j5a2ehndebdglo6tslg@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics00:26
sharooncedk: its a google calendar right? so if you share the URL i can add it to my google cal00:26
cedksharoon: it is shared00:27
sharooncedk: thanks , i added00:27
cedksharoon: and it must be in google search00:27
cedkgood night00:28
sharoongood night all00:28
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Timitoscedk: hi. i saw the todo for account: Change code rules on taxes to use a one2many instead of fixed fields15:20
Timitoscedk: what do you plan exactly?15:20
Timitosi would provide a patch for that if you can give me some more information15:22
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cedkTimitos: I don't know yet16:19
Timitoscedk: so what is your goal)16:20
Timitoss/)/?16:21
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cedkTimitos: having taxes more powerful but I'm sick today and I can not think more16:26
Timitoscedk: ok. So get well soon!16:28
Timitoscedk: it would be great if we could discuss this point in the next days as i am working on german integration for accounting these days and this change would fit into my work i already have to do.16:29
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