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| cedk | sharoon: hi, I did not well understand your tweet about Tryton and website | 21:26 |
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| cedk | sharoon: can you explain me? |
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| sharoon | cedk: i use tryton as a module for our website backend. Our customers can track status of a project and other details using the django app... but accounts and invoice was missing. We started using tryton for accounting last month and now i have interfaced it to django... so customers can see their invoices online | 21:27 |
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| sharoon | cedk: right now building the paypal payment feature so i can quickly get payments also |
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| cedk | sharoon: ok, I understand | 21:28 |
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| sharoon | cedk: the only screwup still remains not being able to generate pdfs |
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| cedk | sharoon: if you want you can make a news for the tryton website about your usage | 21:29 |
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| sharoon | sure |
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| sharoon | cedk: i will write it up and snd you |
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| cedk | sharoon: great |
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| cedk | sharoon: yesterday, you did not answer me about your OS for pdf generation |
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| sharoon | cedk: ubuntu 9.10 | 21:30 |
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| cedk | sharoon: is uno module compiled for the right python version? |
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| sharoon | cedk: i installed using apt |
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| cedk | sharoon: by the way, I think about adding your sale_opportunity module on the roadmap | 21:31 |
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| sharoon | cedk: :-) |
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| cedk | sharoon: sometimes I got issue with python interact because of dead soffice process | 21:32 |
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| sharoon | cedk: i am trying to figure out the issue, but did not have much time yesterday | 21:33 |
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| cedk | sharoon: so I need to kill soffice to get it works again |
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| sharoon | cedk: will let you know of any updates |
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| cedk | sharoon: it is sad that Ooo doesn't provide a library to make format conversion | 21:34 |
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| cedk | sharoon: but it seems it is a work in progress, I saw a talk at fosdem about ODF tools | 21:35 |
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| sharoon | cedk: agree, and inspite of the popularity PDF conversion is still a pain |
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| sharoon | cedk: great to hear that |
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| cedk | sharoon: but they progress very slowly because ODF is a big stuff |
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| sharoon | cedk: ok |
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| cedk | sharoon: so I think we can not expect something before 2 years | 21:36 |
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| sharoon | cedk: thats very long... |
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| cedk | sharoon: Ooo is developped by very few guys |
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| sharoon | cedk: ok |
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| cedk | sharoon: and I don't know how Oracle will handle Ooo | 21:37 |
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| sharoon | cedk: agree |
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| cedk | sharoon: perhaps we should look at koffice or abiword |
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| sharoon | cedk: never tried abiword | 21:38 |
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| cedk | sharoon: I just checked it seems they don't handle correctly ODF | 21:39 |
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| sharoon | cedk: :( |
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| cedk | sharoon: I also already thought about improving the current report engine to have more output format | 21:41 |
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| cedk | sharoon: because Ooo has really a lot of input/output format | 21:42 |
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| sharoon | cedk: i there no other way of converting to PDF after rendering be relatorio? |
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| sharoon | be* by |
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| cedk | sharoon: I have looked longtime but did not find anything | 21:43 |
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| sharoon | cedk: i wish there was some alternative | 21:44 |
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| cedk | sharoon: I wish ODF became a well know standard :-) | 21:46 |
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| cedk | sharoon: any way according to this http://groups.google.com/group/tryton-dev/browse_thread/thread/d0839c7c677026b3 | 21:47 |
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| sharoon | cedk: i was surprised to see that office 2007 supports it... it opens an ODT |
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| cedk | sharoon: we will need to be able to generate directly pdf for very long report |
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| cedk | sharoon: yes it was announced, but according to the sun guy (at fosdem) there is no way to verify if it handles correctly | 21:48 |
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| sharoon | cedk: agree, |
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| cedk | ACTION go to lunch | 21:49 |
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| mlhamel | hello |
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| mlhamel | tryton and zc.buildout |
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| mlhamel | did you try it ? | 22:29 |
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| mlhamel | I have a small problem with trytond's setup.py script |
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| mlhamel | it seems that the bin dir is not packaged correctly |
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| mlhamel | buildout bug... sorry | 22:47 |
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| cedk | mlhamel: what was the issue? | 23:36 |
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| mlhamel | no problem it's just a bug in zc.buildout, the trytond scripts was not correctly copied in the bin dir | 23:37 |
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| mlhamel | your setup.py file was correctly made |
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| cedk | mlhamel: don't know zc.buildout |
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| cedk | mlhamel: ok fine |
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| mlhamel | buildout is build/deployement system in python | 23:38 |
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| mlhamel | very cool, and simple, which is something not common for a tools made by some zope guys |
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| mlhamel | oh by the, I was evaluation tryton for my company, very cool, and very clean | 23:39 |
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| mlhamel | but we really need a web interface |
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| mlhamel | do you think it's something "easy" to port etiny for tryton ? |
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| cedk | mlhamel: I will not encourage to start from etiny |
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| cedk | mlhamel: we have made some preparation for a coming web client | 23:41 |
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| mlhamel | and do you have a timeframe ? |
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| cedk | mlhamel: we have perhaps the possibility to write one (not yet confirm) |
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| mlhamel | I may be available for help if needed | 23:42 |
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| cedk | mlhamel: what is your need for a web client? |
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| mlhamel | In fact, we are evaluating the possibility to replace our old erp system, and we need to be able to acces it from different sources |
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| mlhamel | and different computer |
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| mlhamel | and installing a software on all machine is not necessarly possible | 23:43 |
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| mlhamel | in fact my boss ask to taked a look at openerp |
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| sharoon | mlhamel: you have an update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/openobject-server/+bug/520006 |
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| mlhamel | hehe | 23:44 |
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| sharoon | mlhamel: looks like your bug made it to the serious list, otherwise it would have been into the bin |
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| mlhamel | yeah this is before i discovered tryton |
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| cedk | mlhamel: sharoon had made some connection between tryton and a django website |
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| sharoon | mlhamel: if you really want to use tryton as a system web for some limited functionality then its a 5 mins job once you have some html and css... just use tryton as a module | 23:45 |
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| mlhamel | you mean, sharoon created a kind of simple concept of web application in django |
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| sharoon | mlhamel: i dint create a concept i used: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HowToUseTrytondAsAModule | 23:46 |
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| mlhamel | yeah but I think I don't have a complete idea of the complexity to develop a equivalent client |
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| sharoon | mlhamel: maintaining two clients according to me isnt a good idea |
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| cedk | mlhamel: I have made a prototype with GWT and I estimate a full feature web client will take 2 months | 23:47 |
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| sharoon | mlhamel: lot of pain like what Open ERP has... the webclient just sucks... can share some client abuses with you ;-) |
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| mlhamel | yeah maybe you right but in fact I was contemplating the idea of having the less posible logic in the client and to make every needed parts |
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| cedk | sharoon: I started by making it working exactly the same as the GTK one |
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| mlhamel | you mean tryton client was not just a fork, you re-coded ? | 23:48 |
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| cedk | mlhamel: we made some changes since openerp fork, to fix stuffs | 23:49 |
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| sharoon | mlhamel: it 'was' a fork, but today tryton as a framework is much better than openobject, the framework that Open ERP works on.... technically much superior |
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| mlhamel | yes this is exactly what I saw on your website that i liked |
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| cedk | sharoon: for me openobject is not yet a framework :-) |
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| mlhamel | unitest | 23:50 |
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| mlhamel | buildbot |
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| mlhamel | each module/component in a egg |
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| cedk | mlhamel: everything is not yet fine but it is a work in progress |
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| mlhamel | a real python application and corretly package |
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| sharoon | cedk: sent something interesting to your mail |
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| cedk | mlhamel: I wanted it (I'm a gentoo dev and I know how it can be difficult to distribute application) | 23:51 |
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| mlhamel | hey guys I have to go but I'll come back later cause I may have some other questions for you |
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| cedk | sharoon: not yet receive but we have greylisting |
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| cedk | mlhamel: I think we will know for the webclient in one week | 23:52 |
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| mlhamel | cool and as I says, if we can help... | 23:53 |
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| mlhamel | ciao |
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| cedk | sharoon: received | 23:54 |
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| cedk | sharoon: what is the interesting part? |
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| sharoon | cedk: arent fables interesting? | 23:55 |
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| cedk | sharoon: always the same marketing blabla |
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| cedk | sharoon: I find the sun joke very funny | 23:56 |
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| sharoon | cedk: nothing serious anyway, just something to laugh about |
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| cedk | sharoon: ok did not understand you at first :-) |
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| sharoon | cedk: wanted to reply: rewrite 'Sun' by oracle | 23:57 |
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| cedk | sharoon: did you see my question about lock with mysql? |
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| sharoon | cedk: its a known issue right, and no solution yet |
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| cedk | sharoon: I thought about locking all tables |
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| cedk | sharoon: so it will behave like the sqlite backend | 23:58 |
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| sharoon | cedk: MySQL --- not for an ERP atleast! |
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| sharoon | cedk: even sqllite makes sense to me and same with NESO... but not sure if mysql is such an important idea | 23:59 |
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| cedk | sharoon: yes, I will not recommend it for large stuff |
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| sharoon | not even sure of its future |
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| cedk | sharoon: it was 1.5 days of dev and I found it was funny to do it at the same time OpenERP announce sun partnership with a SA branch that doesn't work |
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