IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2010-06-18

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Fri Jun 18 00:00:01 CEST 2010
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Fandekasphi14:52
FandekaspI'm a student, learning about ERP systems. I've looked quickly about tryton and openerp, as I like python programming, and I wonder what should I use ... Are you enjoying tryton ? What are its disadvantages according to you ? Thank you for your answer :)14:56
bechamelFandekasp: hi, for disadvantages vs openerp I don't see any, but maybe I'm not 100% objective :)15:02
bechamelanyway, the biggest problem of tryton atm is the documentation15:03
Fandekaspoh ok, so it's not easy to learn tryton, bechamel15:03
FandekaspHow can tryton be as good as openerp when there are three times fewer developers ?15:04
bechamelmaybe because there are no correlation between the number of dev and the quality of the code15:05
Fandekasp6 times fewer sorry, according to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Tryton_and_Open_ERP15:05
bechameland also because the dev effort of oerp is spilled across hundreds of modules without consistency15:06
Fandekaspyes, you're right, but we can expect more results from 245 developers than from 40 ^^'15:06
Fandekaspok15:06
bechamelFandekasp: fyi http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/cfycv/has_anyone_here_used_openerp_are_your_experiences/15:07
Fandekasplol it seems 100% objective too :P15:08
cedkFandekasp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month15:08
Fandekaspok Thank you guys :)15:09
cedkFandekasp: but the only real proof is read the code of both, run it and you will see15:10
Fandekaspyes of course, I'll do this later15:11
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cedkyangoon: ping18:56
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cedkpaepke: I have seen any option to show result before vote21:09
paepkecedk, you mean "haven't"?21:11
paepkecedk, imho its a bad poll system about it. but i'm not sure that google moderator is the right system for polls.21:12
paepkecedk, when you see how the others vote before you vote you get influenced by it.21:15
paepkecedk, a question about something similar: have you already heard about http://uservoice.com/ ? maybe there is an opensource pendant to it.21:19
dbaalso, the google poll requires a google account, and,21:22
dbait doesn't allow to make comments.21:22
dbae.g. i find both unique emails and realnames important, however,21:23
dbai wouldn't want to enforce it. e.g. for debian-live, there's a contributor that is doing a privacy related downstream distribution,21:23
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dbaand he's not giving anything away but is nickname (and his $nickname@$domain.tld)21:24
dbawhich is perfectly fine. i wouldn't want to miss his contributions over bikesheding about realnames or not.21:24
dba(ymmv)21:24
paepkecedk, nevertheless a good idea about that polls.21:29
dbai like polls too21:32
udonohi, I like polls, too.21:58
udonoBut for my experience most questions in real-life can not answered with yes or no.22:01
cedkdba: google account like for the mailing list22:10
cedkdba: it is required to prevent vote spaming22:10
cedkudono: you can send an anwser in moderator22:10
cedkdba: how are you sure about copryrights?22:11
cedkdba: as far as I know per example Linux ask to sign the patches22:12
cedkdba: it is to prevent copyright and licence issues22:12
dbacedk: for debian-live, everyone who's contributing is transfering all copyrights (!= authorship) to me anyway.22:14
dbafor the documentation and translation, it's transfered to the debian-live project as a whole.22:14
dbacopyright has nothing to do with the person having a realname or just a pseudonym.22:16
dbacontributions to the kernel are for that matter a different issue, since they're actively working in a patent-encoumbered field.22:16
dba(which i guess is the real reason their requesting signed commits)22:17
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cedkdba: we don't want to have people cede their copyright22:21
cedkdba: I don't think it is linked to patent or at least not only that22:21
cedkdba: the main issue is to identify the author of each line of code22:22
cedkdba: to be able later to deal with licence change etc.22:22
dbacedk: when you have differnet people holding copyright,22:22
dbain reality, there's always at least one that is holding back (willingly or unwillingly)22:23
dbaso from my point of view, i don't even consider to be able to change a license once there are more than one copyright holder, ever.22:23
dba(which is why for all non-documentation stuff in debian-live, we'll transfer copyright to me, so that i could change the license if needed).22:24
dbaabout 'identify' the author, as said, this has from a legal point of view nothing to do with the person having a realname or a pseudonym only.22:25
MithrandirI think it's a feature not being able to change the licence.22:26
dba.oO(i don't, see gpl3.)22:29
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