IRC logs of #tryton for Thursday, 2011-01-13

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu Jan 13 00:00:05 CET 2011
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yangooncedk: hi11:39
yangooncedk: could we schedule maintenance release for beginning next week, when cron fix could be in 1.8?11:39
yangooncedk: btw: fix for product_cost_fifo 'Fix default fifo_quantity naming' is missing for 1.411:42
cedkyangoon: yes for release schedule11:55
cedkyangoon: for fifo, I have no access to the computer where I manage the transplant11:55
cedkyangoon: could you send me an email as reminder?11:55
yangooncedk: will do11:56
cedkyangoon: received12:54
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margaIn tryton, if I want to re-order a list of items that is more than the current limit of items to be shown... Does the current list get reordered? Or does it get a new subset of the reordered list?18:50
bechamelmarga: when you click on the column title, the client trigger a new read to the server18:55
bechamelmarga: and the order by is made in the database18:56
margaAwesome18:57
margaWas it not possible to fix OpenERP instead of forking?19:03
margaforks make me sad19:03
bechamelmarga: no it wasn't, amongst other reason, fixing openerp would means migrating a lot of module19:08
bechamelwe prefered to have a sane base and rewrite the modules (and try to improve modelisations)19:09
margabechamel: right, but when doing that you lose a lot of momentum :-\19:10
bechamelmarga: the example of the day I saw on #openerp is the field "partner_shipping_id" that points to the partner_address table, this makes no sense, it should be shipping_address19:11
margabechamel: yeah, I know.19:11
margaIt sucks big time.19:11
bechamelmarga: yes but otho you get a framework that is more pleasant to use, and you develop even faster19:12
margaIt's just that in my case I'm using quite a number of modulest that are not present in tryton, and that'd mean much more coding that I already have to do.19:12
bechameland BTW there are a lot of module in OERP but how much are maintained for current version, and for older version ?19:13
margaBut yeah, I've spent quite a while fixing OpenERP stupidity, only to get my patches rejected :-\19:13
margaDid you get a lot of patch rejection before forking?19:14
bechamelmarga: you answer to  "why forking" :)19:14
margaYeah, I know.  But forking is still sad because it divides efforts.  I'm not saying that "thou shall not fork", only that it's a sad situation.19:15
bechamelmarga: at the time we where tiny employee, we tried to push changes (like the employee that left before we arrived), but it didn't work, so we left and started tryton19:15
bechamelmarga: it's not so sad because, we have another approach19:18
bechamelso it's not the same software with different features, it's another software19:18
margabechamel: yeah, ok, I'm not critizing19:19
bechameltryton is more a toolbox + modules that can be used for an erp, while openerp is a "product"19:19
margaI just want to understand because I hate OpenERP and I feel that if some of your work would be integrated my life would be easier.19:19
margabechamel: and there's no hope of Tryton becoming a product?19:20
margaBTW, OpenERP sucks as a product as much as it sucks as a framework.19:20
margaIt's just a lot of ugly code... A LOT.19:20
bechamelmarga: yes, having a product is clearly possible and not difficult, it's just that it's better to separate clealy the toolbox from it19:22
margaRight19:22
margaI think a better orm would also help.19:22
bechamelI don't know very well the openerp orm, but imo the tryton orm is not that bad19:26
bechamelit could look more pythonic, but the perf and feature set is quite good19:26
bechamelI have to go, bye19:28
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