IRC logs of #tryton for Saturday, 2011-04-30

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sat Apr 30 00:00:02 CEST 2011
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2011-04-30 02:17 <tshepang> when visiting https://bugs.tryton.org/ I get a warning "The site's security certificate is not trusted!"
2011-04-30 02:18 <tshepang> am using chromium 10
2011-04-30 02:18 <tshepang> anyone else experience this?
2011-04-30 02:18 <nicoe> everybody probably
2011-04-30 02:19 <nicoe> the certificate is self-signed IIRC
2011-04-30 02:22 <tshepang> nicoe, self-signed?
2011-04-30 02:22 <tshepang> what that means
2011-04-30 02:23 <nicoe> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-signed_certificate
2011-04-30 02:24 <tshepang> ta
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2011-04-30 02:33 <tshepang> so I'm using guidelines here http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationMercurial
2011-04-30 02:33 <tshepang> when I run hg nclone http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/
2011-04-30 02:33 <tshepang> I keep getting this http://paste.debian.net/115534/
2011-04-30 02:33 <tshepang> it happens on random repositories
2011-04-30 02:34 <tshepang> e.g. on another attempt, that repository was successfully cloned
2011-04-30 02:34 <nicoe> Which version of mercurial are you using ?
2011-04-30 02:35 <tshepang> 1.8
2011-04-30 02:35 <tshepang> nested is 0.3
2011-04-30 02:36 <nicoe> is it mercurial 1.8.0 ?
2011-04-30 02:36 <nicoe> or later ?
2011-04-30 02:36 <tshepang> 1.8.1
2011-04-30 02:37 <tshepang> I also keep getting "real URL is http://hg2.tryton.org/trytond/"
2011-04-30 02:37 <tshepang> for each one
2011-04-30 02:37 <tshepang> so I tried "hg nclone http://hg2.tryton.org/trytond/", and same problem
2011-04-30 02:38 <nicoe> I think there is an incompatibility between mercurial 1.8.1 and hgnested
2011-04-30 02:39 <tshepang> oh, ok
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2011-04-30 19:02 <tshepang> today I tried "hg nclone http://hg2.tryton.org/trytond/" and it worked nice
2011-04-30 19:03 <tshepang> wonder what the problem was; maybe there were problems with hg server?
2011-04-30 19:47 <cedk> tshepang: sometimes network issues can do that
2011-04-30 19:54 <tshepang> cedk, like poor connection on my side?
2011-04-30 19:54 <cedk> tshepang: yes or at the data center
2011-04-30 19:55 <tshepang> that would be understandable, as in maybe hgnested doesn't handle intermittent connections very well
2011-04-30 19:55 <cedk> tshepang: it is hg that manage the connection
2011-04-30 19:57 <tshepang> on another issue, my employer is kinda invested on OpenERP, but looking around, I would choose Tryton
2011-04-30 19:57 <tshepang> the key missing piece is a production-level web client
2011-04-30 19:58 <tshepang> I really prefer working with hg than bzr (used by OpenERP)
2011-04-30 19:58 <cedk> tshepang: webclient is only a marketing point
2011-04-30 19:58 <tshepang> I also like the philosophy of hiQ, and standard-compliance
2011-04-30 19:59 <tshepang> e.g. PEP-8
2011-04-30 20:00 <tshepang> the advantage with it is that u dont have to install gtk client on each machine
2011-04-30 20:00 <cedk> tshepang: I'm pretty sure that your employer has no valid reason to want a webclient
2011-04-30 20:00 <cedk> tshepang: the installation issue is a wrong issue
2011-04-30 20:00 <cedk> tshepang: you still need to have a web browser installed
2011-04-30 20:01 <tshepang> but everyone laready has a web rowser installed
2011-04-30 20:01 <tshepang> *already
2011-04-30 20:01 <cedk> tshepang: but you still need to do some configurations
2011-04-30 20:02 <cedk> tshepang: like where to connect
2011-04-30 20:02 <tshepang> on the web browser?
2011-04-30 20:03 <cedk> tshepang: if it is the only reason then it is really a wrong choice
2011-04-30 20:03 <tshepang> cedk, how d u find web client for openerp 6.0.2?
2011-04-30 20:03 <cedk> tshepang: I answered on mailing list
2011-04-30 20:04 <tshepang> I dont even know if it's the reason; thing is openerp has a greater mindshare/support base
2011-04-30 20:04 <tshepang> ok
2011-04-30 20:04 <tshepang> that was quick
2011-04-30 20:12 <tshepang> first time I actually use google groups; nifty
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2011-04-30 20:16 <tshepang> ACTION this channel is unusually responsive
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2011-04-30 20:26 <cedk> tshepang: compared to OE, we try to build a real community
2011-04-30 20:28 <tshepang> what 'community' is built by OE?
2011-04-30 20:28 <tshepang> as in, what u mean by real community?
2011-04-30 20:28 <cedk> tshepang: it is more centred on partners
2011-04-30 20:28 <cedk> tshepang: here if you contribute to the project, you are part of it
2011-04-30 20:28 <tshepang> so it's different from an ordinary FLOSS project
2011-04-30 20:29 <tshepang> as in OE isn't an ordinary FLOSS project
2011-04-30 20:30 <tshepang> is it similar to SugarCRM, in terms of 'structure'?
2011-04-30 20:30 <cedk> tshepang: I see many times OE contributors fighting to get their voices heared
2011-04-30 20:30 <cedk> tshepang: don't know SugarCRM structure
2011-04-30 20:32 <tshepang> OE contributors fighting? what does that have to do with anything?
2011-04-30 20:32 <tshepang> little harmony in the project?
2011-04-30 20:33 <tshepang> not-good community governance?
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2011-04-30 20:35 <cedk> tshepang: I just follow on twitter some key guys
2011-04-30 20:35 <cedk> tshepang: and I always get the feeling they need to fight (by talk) to be considered
2011-04-30 20:36 <tshepang> ok
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2011-04-30 21:29 <reichlich> cedk, shall I use proteus for the POS-terminal to POS-Server communication, or is there a better way?
2011-04-30 21:30 <cedk> reichlich: for me the best is to extend gtk client
2011-04-30 21:31 <reichlich> cedk, yes i will do that, but there are multiple server instances which have to communicate with each other.
2011-04-30 21:31 <reichlich> cedk, on the terminal the neso instance needs to synch with the server
2011-04-30 21:33 <cedk> reichlich: I don't think proteus is the right tool for such sync
2011-04-30 21:34 <reichlich> cedk, what do you think is the right tool?
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2011-04-30 21:44 <cedk> reichlich: I think it must be a customized tool/protocol
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2011-04-30 23:40 <jcm> hi, who is the mac client packaging maintener?
2011-04-30 23:41 <jcm> I tried to bundle client 2.0 following http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/BuildingMacOSXInstall
2011-04-30 23:41 <jcm> I solved some problems, but I'm stopped now by a specific gtk-osx error
2011-04-30 23:45 <cedk> jcm: it is pheller
2011-04-30 23:46 <cedk> I will try to setup next weeks a MacOSX to work on the bundle
2011-04-30 23:46 <jcm> I followed all the instructions, but the bundle hangs
2011-04-30 23:46 <jcm> tryton 2.0 is still with gtk-2, isnt't it ?
2011-04-30 23:47 <cedk> jcm: pheller tells me that recent version of pygtk change path to some stuffs
2011-04-30 23:47 <cedk> jcm: yes
2011-04-30 23:47 <jcm> I'll try to write him though his github account
2011-04-30 23:47 <jcm> through

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