IRC logs of #tryton for Saturday, 2011-05-28

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sat May 28 00:00:01 CEST 2011
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2011-05-28 00:37 <meanmicio> Good evening everyone
2011-05-28 00:39 <meanmicio> cedk : there is an _inherits in the product module (product.py) . For what we talked yesterday with Cedric, Tryton does not use it, just _name ... can you check if that's ok ?
2011-05-28 00:41 <cedk> meanmicio: it is a real inheritage
2011-05-28 00:41 <cedk> meanmicio: not just to extend to Model
2011-05-28 00:41 <cedk> meanmicio: for product, there is 2 tables: product_template and product_product
2011-05-28 00:42 <meanmicio> cedk : Yes. I've used product_product
2011-05-28 00:43 <cedk> meanmicio: in OE there is the _inherit and _inherits
2011-05-28 00:43 <cedk> meanmicio: but as _inherit does the name as _name, we just merge it in Tryton
2011-05-28 00:43 <meanmicio> cedk: ok . thanks for the info !
2011-05-28 00:46 <meanmicio> cedk: BTW, latest trunk revision of MEDICAL is PEP8 compliant (including spaces ;-) ).... major re-working
2011-05-28 00:47 <cedk> meanmicio: great
2011-05-28 00:48 <cedk> meanmicio: one more small thing, it is good to import first standard modules and after that local one
2011-05-28 00:49 <cedk> meanmicio: so in medical.py, it is better to put the import of logging before the one of trytond
2011-05-28 00:50 <meanmicio> Makes sense. I'll check into it
2011-05-28 00:50 <meanmicio> BBL
2011-05-28 00:51 <cedk> meanmicio: also line 49: I think it is better to name it plan instead of name
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2011-05-28 05:57 <alimon> zodman: hey
2011-05-28 05:57 <zodman> alo
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2011-05-28 10:37 <Pander> hi all
2011-05-28 10:38 <Pander> does anyone have an example daemon script for /etc/init.d/tryton ?
2011-05-28 10:39 <cedk> Pander: for which distribution?
2011-05-28 10:40 <udono> Pander: Hi, Here you finde one for debian http://git.debian-maintainers.org/?p=tryton/tryton-server.git;a=blob;f=debian/tryton-server.init;h=1d25d688b27680ae265be25a6ab952d35af04e46;hb=HEAD
2011-05-28 10:41 <Pander> ubuntu because I'm using 2.0 which isn't packages yet
2011-05-28 10:41 <Pander> packages-packaged
2011-05-28 10:42 <Pander> is the debian identical to the one used in ubuntu?
2011-05-28 10:43 <cedk> Pander: it should
2011-05-28 10:45 <Pander> By te way, is the Tryton community providing a PPA for Ubuntu with latest release?
2011-05-28 10:45 <cedk> Pander: what is PPA?
2011-05-28 10:46 <Pander> A personal package archive where Ubuntu packages are offered, only more recent version then what they are offering.
2011-05-28 10:47 <cedk> Pander: I don't think someone does
2011-05-28 10:47 <Pander> Usually the patches and extra config provided by Ubuntu will also work with a newer release so the Ubuntu part is used to make a package of latest stable so people can use that in stead of old version provided by Ubuntu
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2011-05-28 10:48 <cedk> Pander: any way, we just provide archive of releases
2011-05-28 10:48 <Pander> This is interesting for people that will/can not do manual installation from source
2011-05-28 10:48 <cedk> Pander: it is the job of distribution devs to make packages for their distribution
2011-05-28 10:48 <Pander> cadk: understood, it was just an idea. if you happen to have an ubuntu/debian expert in the community, this would allow the majority of users to be able to easily use the latest version
2011-05-28 10:49 <cedk> Pander: if people can not do manual installation, I think they will not be able to use Tryton
2011-05-28 10:51 <cedk> Pander: it is quiet easy to install Tryton with pip
2011-05-28 10:51 <Pander> Some organisations doing maintenance on servers for other organisations are forbidden to do installations of .tar.gz but can only do packaged installations (I know it is stupid)... has to do with liabilities, They would also be happy with that. Another reason is that it is giving mixed signals, Ubuntu offers 1.6 and you are offering 2.0.
2011-05-28 10:52 <cedk> Pander: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=tryton
2011-05-28 10:52 <cedk> Pander: we can not manage packages for every distribution out there
2011-05-28 10:53 <cedk> Pander: we let distribution expert doing it
2011-05-28 10:54 <Pander> I agree with all alternative, I install from source myself, no problem. It is more of an promotional/image thing and help people get started with latest greatest. Ubuntu is a bit slow sometimes. I know about the link you send me. It will allow people to use 2.0 from mid October this year.
2011-05-28 10:54 <cedk> Pander: I'm a Gentoo dev and I see that many packages for Gentoo written by non Gentoo dev have poor quality
2011-05-28 10:54 <Pander> Understand your point of view, time is limited ;)
2011-05-28 10:58 <cedk> Pander: by the way, not sure if Ubuntu is the right distribution for a server
2011-05-28 11:02 <Pander> I've been running both Debian and Ubuntu servers for a while. Very satisfied with both.
2011-05-28 11:13 <Pander> which of the protocols does not need initially? only the netrpc?
2011-05-28 11:17 <cedk> Pander: client talks only netrpc
2011-05-28 11:24 <Pander> I have setup daemon scripts, /var/run/trytond /var/log/trytond /var/lib/trytond, have a tryton user and group, install is in /usr/local. editted the config file. all looks good but /etc/init.d/tryton start says it is starting but I cannot find any process. also log file remains empty and tryton stop says there is no process. how to trouble shoot his?
2011-05-28 11:26 <cedk> Pander: what is in the log file?
2011-05-28 11:28 <Pander> nothing
2011-05-28 11:28 <Pander> when I start the daemon process by hand (qithout --quite) I get this in log file:
2011-05-28 11:29 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:28:00 2011] INFO:server:using /etc/trytond.conf as configuration
2011-05-28 11:29 <Pander> file
2011-05-28 11:29 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:28:00 2011] INFO:server:initialising distributed objects services
2011-05-28 11:29 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:28:01 2011] INFO:modules:ir:registering classes
2011-05-28 11:29 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:28:01 2011] INFO:modules:res:registering classes
2011-05-28 11:29 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:28:01 2011] INFO:modules:test:registering classes
2011-05-28 11:29 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:28:01 2011] INFO:modules:webdav:registering classes
2011-05-28 11:29 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:28:01 2011] INFO:modules:workflow:registering classes
2011-05-28 11:29 <Pander> and the process disasspears
2011-05-28 11:30 <cedk> Pander: could you start it from a console
2011-05-28 11:30 <cedk> Pander: and paste the ouput but using a pastebin service
2011-05-28 11:37 <Pander> cedk: same and it ends with "Enter PEM pass phrase:" I better use other certs ;)
2011-05-28 11:37 <cedk> Pander: yes you must use an non-crypted cert
2011-05-28 11:38 <Pander> this was my dovecot cert :S
2011-05-28 11:39 <cedk> Pander: and how dovecot start?
2011-05-28 11:41 <Pander> other long story
2011-05-28 11:41 <Pander> now it stops...
2011-05-28 11:41 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:39:03 2011] INFO:server:starting NetRPC Secure protocol, port 807
2011-05-28 11:41 <Pander> 0
2011-05-28 11:41 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:39:03 2011] INFO:server:waiting for connections...
2011-05-28 11:41 <Pander> [Sat May 28 11:39:07 2011] INFO:server:stopped
2011-05-28 11:42 <cedk> Pander: seems to work now
2011-05-28 11:44 <cedk> Pander: could you use http://paste.pocoo.org/ instead of copy/paste in the chan
2011-05-28 11:47 <Pander> which of the files here contains the linux client? http://downloads.tryton.org/2.0/
2011-05-28 11:47 <Pander> tryton-2.0.0.tar.gz ?
2011-05-28 11:47 <cedk> Pander: yes
2011-05-28 11:57 <yangoon> Pander: with a recent ubuntu you should be able to use directly debian unstable packages of tryton
2011-05-28 12:01 <cedk> yangoon: I think it is time to make a new set of release
2011-05-28 12:02 <yangoon> cedk: ok, you are done with backporting?
2011-05-28 12:03 <cedk> yangoon: there is still stuffs but if we don't stop, we never end
2011-05-28 12:03 <cedk> yangoon: I think we could take time base for this
2011-05-28 12:03 <cedk> yangoon: like each months
2011-05-28 12:04 <yangoon> cedk: I also thought about this initially
2011-05-28 12:05 <yangoon> but if there are few backports it is a little bit often
2011-05-28 12:06 <yangoon> anyway, I will try to do this weekend for this time
2011-05-28 12:09 <yangoon> cedk: btw: do you use latest gtk-all-in-one to build windows clients?
2011-05-28 12:09 <cedk> yangoon: yes
2011-05-28 12:10 <yangoon> I tried with a 1.8 client and DND didn't work then
2011-05-28 12:11 <cedk> yangoon: yes there is a patch in 2.0
2011-05-28 12:11 <Pander> What are exact commands for MySQL to add tryton user?
2011-05-28 12:11 <cedk> yangoon: changeset 6ee7dc14e2a9
2011-05-28 12:12 <yangoon> cedk: thx
2011-05-28 12:12 <cedk> Pander: have you a good reason to use MySQL instead of PostgreSQL?
2011-05-28 12:13 <Pander> yes, want to have only one db service running
2011-05-28 12:13 <Pander> it is just stuck on some of the rights of the db user at the moment :S
2011-05-28 12:13 <cedk> Pander: because MySQL is from far the best database for trytond
2011-05-28 12:14 <Pander> because?
2011-05-28 12:17 <cedk> Pander: http://hg2.tryton.org/trytond/file/eb620f7421af/README#l39
2011-05-28 12:17 <cedk> Pander: MySQL is a limited database compared to PostgreSQL
2011-05-28 12:18 <cedk> Pander: otherwise http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/create-user.html
2011-05-28 12:19 <cedk> with MySQL when you start to use it with real ACID behavior then the performance are very lower than PostgreSQL
2011-05-28 12:30 <Pander> ACID?
2011-05-28 12:33 <cedk> Pander: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACID
2011-05-28 12:50 <Pander> thanks. Oh, I get these errors: IOError: File not found : /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/trytond-2.0.0-py2.6.egg/trytond/ir/ui/icons/tryton-calendar.svg
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2011-05-28 13:04 <Pander> the above error can be solved by: cp -r /tmp/trytond-2.0.0/trytond/ir/ui/icons/ /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/trytond-2.0.0-py2.6.egg/trytond/ir/ui
2011-05-28 13:06 <Pander> Does anyone know this problem? The field "Rate" on "Unit of measure" has too many decimal digits.
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2011-05-28 13:09 <cedk> Pander: missing icon will be fixed with the next release
2011-05-28 13:10 <cedk> Pander: for the other issue, can you explain what you are doing?
2011-05-28 13:22 <Pander> installing product module
2011-05-28 13:22 <Pander> both 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 version of product generate this error
2011-05-28 13:23 <cedk> Pander: is there a traceback in the log?
2011-05-28 13:27 <Pander> no, I think it is client related since the product installs OK
2011-05-28 13:27 <Pander> PS Should I use product 2.0.1 with trytond 2.0.0?
2011-05-28 13:28 <cedk> Pander: yes
2011-05-28 13:28 <cedk> Pander: so what are you doing exactly?
2011-05-28 13:32 <Pander> python setup.py install of product-2.0.1
2011-05-28 13:32 <Pander> restart daemon
2011-05-28 13:32 <Pander> connect with gui
2011-05-28 13:32 <Pander> go to modules
2011-05-28 13:32 <Pander> select prodcut 2.0.1 for installation
2011-05-28 13:32 <Pander> do pending install
2011-05-28 13:32 <Pander> get error
2011-05-28 13:33 <cedk> Pander: ok so it is during the installation
2011-05-28 13:33 <Pander> module is installed, however that status is not updated due to that error in gui
2011-05-28 13:33 <Pander> yep
2011-05-28 13:33 <cedk> Pander: what is the traceback on the server side
2011-05-28 13:33 <Pander> nothing
2011-05-28 13:33 <Pander> I have daemon in verbose mode
2011-05-28 13:33 <cedk> Pander: It is installation !!!
2011-05-28 13:33 <Pander> wait
2011-05-28 13:33 <Pander> i have some
2011-05-28 13:34 <Pander> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/396614/
2011-05-28 13:37 <Pander> is it of any use?
2011-05-28 13:40 <cedk> Pander: I think it shows one more MySQL issue
2011-05-28 13:40 <cedk> Pander: which version of MySQL are you using?
2011-05-28 13:45 <Pander> mysql 5.1.49-1ubuntu8.1
2011-05-28 13:51 <cedk> Pander: it seems quite clear that MySQL doesn't give back the same float that was stored
2011-05-28 13:51 <cedk> Pander: I'm not sure we can fix this
2011-05-28 13:52 <cedk> It works on 5.0.84
2011-05-28 13:53 <cedk> Pander: can you run the test: trytond/tests/test_fields.py
2011-05-28 13:58 <Pander> it has errors, see http://paste.pocoo.org/show/396617/
2011-05-28 13:59 <Pander> i see I have to add delete priviliges
2011-05-28 13:59 <cedk> Pander: it is only access right error
2011-05-28 14:04 <Pander> I just put more struct access control on the user, had the errors before. I have put the original rights back and rerunning the test
2011-05-28 14:04 <Pander> new results http://paste.pocoo.org/show/396618/
2011-05-28 14:06 <cedk> Pander: it is strange it seems you still have access right issue
2011-05-28 14:11 <cedk> Pander: which backend of MySQL are you using?
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> broadening access rights
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> libdbd-mysql-perl
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> libmysqlclient16
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> mysql-client
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> mysql-client-5.1
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> mysql-client-core-5.1
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> mysql-common
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> mysql-server
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> mysql-server-5.1
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> mysql-server-core-5.1
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> php5-mysql
2011-05-28 14:12 <Pander> python-mysqldb
2011-05-28 14:13 <cedk> Pander: Are you using InnoDB?
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2011-05-28 14:17 <Pander> cat /etc/mysql/my.cnf
2011-05-28 14:17 <Pander> # InnoDB is enabled by default with a 10MB datafile in /var/lib/mysql/.
2011-05-28 14:17 <Pander> # Read the manual for more InnoDB related options. There are many!
2011-05-28 14:18 <Pander> this is of no concern? test0010boolean (__main__.FieldsTestCase) ... ERROR:sql:Wrong SQL: ALTER TABLE `ir_translation` ADD CONSTRAINT `ir_translation_translation_md5_uniq` UNIQUE (name, res_id, lang, type, src_md5, module) None
2011-05-28 14:19 <cedk> Pander: I think it is the problem
2011-05-28 14:20 <Pander> I can rerun that line manually on the test db
2011-05-28 14:20 <cedk> Pander: why not
2011-05-28 14:21 <Pander> mysql> ALTER TABLE `ir_translation` ADD CONSTRAINT `ir_translation_translation_md5_uniq` UNIQUE (name, res_id, lang, type, src_md5, module);
2011-05-28 14:21 <Pander> ERROR 1071 (42000): Specified key was too long; max key length is 3072 bytes
2011-05-28 14:24 <cedk> Pander: you understand now why I say MySQL is not the better choice :-)
2011-05-28 14:24 <Pander> I get the same error after I have deleted all the records in the table.
2011-05-28 14:24 <Pander> yes yes :S
2011-05-28 14:24 <Pander> better to remove mysql support all together then
2011-05-28 14:26 <cedk> Pander: there is warning in the README
2011-05-28 14:26 <cedk> Pander: as I said it works on previous version
2011-05-28 14:27 <cedk> Pander: but I think it is not a big issue to not create this index
2011-05-28 14:28 <Pander> it just needs a bigger index
2011-05-28 14:28 <cedk> Pander: the doc of MySQL says it is a limitation
2011-05-28 14:29 <Pander> this is already the max max?
2011-05-28 14:29 <Pander> ok I will skip the translation testing in tests_fields
2011-05-28 14:31 <cedk> Pander: you can not
2011-05-28 14:31 <cedk> Pander: but I think there is something else because the system says your user can not modify ir.module.module
2011-05-28 14:33 <Pander> ok, well this is going to give more problems with other users
2011-05-28 14:33 <Pander> I'll switch to postgresql
2011-05-28 14:36 <cedk> Pander: good idea :-)
2011-05-28 14:42 <Pander> what do I need to do to prepare pgs? postgres -c "createuser --createdb --no-adduser -P tryton" doesn't work
2011-05-28 14:44 <Pander> ok, psql....
2011-05-28 14:45 <yangoon> Pander: http://git.debian-maintainers.org/?p=tryton/tryton-server.git;a=blob;f=debian/tryton-server.README.Debian;h=f35cb9e5aac5fee87f299d5a4ab5b1608182d3cc;hb=HEAD
2011-05-28 14:47 <yangoon> cedk: btw: what's your feeling to have pointing debian.tryton.org to something like http://tryton.debian-maintainers.org/?
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2011-05-28 14:59 <Pander> not really working on ubuntu
2011-05-28 15:08 <cedk> yangoon: why not. But what would be the interrest?
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2011-05-28 16:05 <yangoon> cedk: the interest is that dba planned to leave debian-maintainers.org as domain and thus tryton.debian.org would be a nice alternative as a quick shortcut for the tryton project
2011-05-28 16:05 <yangoon> and finally it is the place to always find the latest debian packaging
2011-05-28 16:06 <yangoon> with source list entries etc.
2011-05-28 16:12 <cedk> yangoon: I don't understand
2011-05-28 16:17 <dba> cedk: two unrelated things;
2011-05-28 16:18 <dba> cedk: first, for debian political reasons, i do not want to 'own' any domains matching .*debian.* anymore, so the current tryton stuff for debian
2011-05-28 16:18 <dba> (git repos, deb archives, etc.) need to go to some other domain in some time.
2011-05-28 16:19 <dba> second, if we're already moving to somewhere else, it would probably would make sense to use debian.tryton.org for that.
2011-05-28 16:20 <dba> (only speaking about the dns, the machine running the stuff doesn't change and remains the same anyway)
2011-05-28 16:21 <cedk> dba: ha ok, I understand know
2011-05-28 16:21 <cedk> dba, yangoon: so I see no problem for that
2011-05-28 16:21 <cedk> dba: send me the configuration for DNS
2011-05-28 16:22 <dba> cedk: debian IN A 178.63.150.28
2011-05-28 16:23 <dba> that's the ip i'll be moving the container to when i've upgraded it to squeeze in the next couple of days.
2011-05-28 16:25 <cedk> dba: have you a TTL prefered?
2011-05-28 16:25 <dba> cedk: no, doesn't matter
2011-05-28 16:26 <cedk> dba: you don't plan to change often the host
2011-05-28 16:27 <cedk> dba: so 1 week is good?
2011-05-28 16:27 <dba> cedk: there's no forseeable change to that ip in the next 1 to 2 years, so sure :)
2011-05-28 16:28 <cedk> dba: no ipv6?
2011-05-28 16:28 <dba> cedk: not yet, the provider has it setup, but i haven't configured it yet
2011-05-28 16:28 <dba> (lazy me :)
2011-05-28 16:29 <cedk> dba: it must be ready for June 8 :-)
2011-05-28 16:29 <cedk> dba: done
2011-05-28 16:30 <dba> i've exams soon, not sure i can make it in time.. however, i'll do ipv6 stuff right after i got dnssec deployed (for my stuff)
2011-05-28 16:30 <dba> thanks ;)
2011-05-28 16:31 <dba> yangoon and i will then move/setup/do the things in the next days, and once ready, we'll send a mail to the ml i guess.
2011-05-28 16:33 <cedk> dba: I would like also deploy dnssec for tryton.org
2011-05-28 16:33 <cedk> dba: have you some tutorial?
2011-05-28 16:34 <cedk> dba: do you need a signed certificate for that?
2011-05-28 16:35 <dba> dba: tutorial? yes, see query in a moment
2011-05-28 16:36 <dba> certificate: no, just keys that you generate yourself and which you, depending on the TLD,
2011-05-28 16:36 <dba> submit to the registrar.
2011-05-28 16:43 <cedk> dba: hum. Ok so I need to check if DynDNS allow that
2011-05-28 16:44 <dba> cedk: i presume you're using that for tryton.org; they're quite expensive..
2011-05-28 16:45 <dba> regarding dyndns: http://www.dyndns.com/support/kb/implementing_dnssec.html
2011-05-28 16:45 <cedk> dba: yes, looks like others
2011-05-28 16:48 <cedk> ACTION bbl upgrading soekris
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2011-05-28 17:29 <meanmicio> good saturday for all
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