IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2014-07-22

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue Jul 22 00:00:01 CEST 2014
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2014-07-22 10:17 <cedk> grasbauer: hi, how is going with the website?
2014-07-22 10:19 <grasbauer> cedk: in progress ... think I will finish this week
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2014-07-22 13:19 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas, pokoli: good day, one quick question:
2014-07-22 13:19 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: hi
2014-07-22 13:19 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas, pokoli: what is the plan to continue on tryton docs?
2014-07-22 13:19 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: its continuous, there are constant updates and there are contributions too
2014-07-22 13:20 <hiaselhans> i see..
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2014-07-22 13:20 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: i am refering to #47 and #48
2014-07-22 13:21 <hiaselhans> as i would like to add some more, but need to wait for those still...
2014-07-22 13:22 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: I understand your perspective but at the same time the need to have some kind of best practice. So thinking of a separate quick start and retain the more detailed installation steps
2014-07-22 13:23 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: i understand your perspective aswell, but i dont think it is good to get stuck on this topic..? virtualenv is mentioned 3 times, and we can keep in mind to expand the topic
2014-07-22 13:24 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: don't like being stuck on it either and its bad for progress
2014-07-22 13:24 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: thanks, i agree :)
2014-07-22 13:24 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: what do you think of having a separate quick start ?
2014-07-22 13:25 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: perfect, i would be perfectly happy to have it like that also
2014-07-22 13:26 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: ok, let me try and get this sorted right away....
2014-07-22 13:26 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: but maybe it would be a lot easier to just put things like that on a todo list so we can get to the next point
2014-07-22 13:26 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: thanks a lot!!
2014-07-22 13:27 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: we can also put your docker container on the quickstart list, as for the modern developer it might be the easiest way to just "look at it" :)
2014-07-22 13:28 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: I can add that to the TODO
2014-07-22 13:28 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: thanks!
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2014-07-22 13:48 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: what do you think of the quick install guide of django and the subsequent complete installation guide ? https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/intro/install/ and https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/install/
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2014-07-22 13:52 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: yep, i think thats perfectly fine to distinguish...
2014-07-22 13:53 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: cool, thanks for the feedback
2014-07-22 13:53 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: very welcome, if there is something to write/expand/rebase, just write
2014-07-22 13:55 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: i mean, just tell.... ill be back in an hour..
2014-07-22 13:55 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: sure
2014-07-22 14:07 <sharoonthomas> cedk: was neso ever packaged for osx ? do you think its useful ?
2014-07-22 14:13 <cedk> sharoonthomas: it was but it doesn't work anymore
2014-07-22 14:16 <sharoonthomas> cedk: ok, but dmg's are readonly... is that why ? is it because you need a packager ?
2014-07-22 14:16 <cedk> no
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2014-07-22 15:29 <pokoli> sharoonthomas: thanks for merging tryton-documentation, I didn't have time to review it :)
2014-07-22 15:31 <sharoonthomas> pokoli: I am sending another PR with a quick start and the current one updated to be a detailed guide. please do review when you get 10 mins.
2014-07-22 15:32 <pokoli> sharoonthomas: i will try to review today, but can guarantee anything :)
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2014-07-22 15:50 <pokoli> sharoonthomas: I'm reviewing while fixing some scenarios, so i can be as fast as I want
2014-07-22 15:51 <sharoonthomas> pokoli: cool, i am fixing all the issues you have pointed out
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2014-07-22 15:52 <pokoli> sharoonthomas: you can wait until I finish to push them :P
2014-07-22 15:52 <sharoonthomas> pokoli: sure, just ping me when you're done ;)
2014-07-22 16:09 <pokoli> sharoonthomas: finished :) for me you can merge directly once fixed
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2014-07-22 16:22 <sharoonthomas> pokoli: fixing everything
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2014-07-22 16:25 <pokoli> sharoonthomas: can see it on github, but i trust you :P
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2014-07-22 16:51 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: thanks for the effort on the docs, nice!
2014-07-22 16:51 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: :)
2014-07-22 16:54 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: what do you think about #48? i made the relational fields to map tryton users, so we can introduce to transaction
2014-07-22 16:55 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: also i have split up in two seperate inherent modules in a seperate branch so we can introduce developers step by step from scratch...
2014-07-22 16:55 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: reading
2014-07-22 16:55 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: thanks, no worries take your time... :)
2014-07-22 16:56 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: (its functional, tested on tryton)
2014-07-22 16:58 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: IMHO party is the more appropriate model for the example than user
2014-07-22 17:00 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: true, so i revert and pr the refractored instead?
2014-07-22 17:00 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: sure
2014-07-22 17:04 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: how can i explain transaction?
2014-07-22 17:05 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: can i compare to a session in web?
2014-07-22 17:05 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: the docstring isnt too understandable..
2014-07-22 17:06 <hiaselhans> sharoonthomas: dont worry ill just leave it for the moment
2014-07-22 17:07 <sharoonthomas> hiaselhans: Tryton's Transaction is more than a session, though the API resembles something like an application/request context (of flask)
2014-07-22 17:09 <pokoli> there is any method to catch an UserError and determine it's untranslated code?
2014-07-22 17:10 <pokoli> let me explain, I have some code that raises a UserError, and then call this code from a wizard and I want to catch this especific UserError, but not all the UserErrors for example validation ones
2014-07-22 17:11 <pokoli> I can't see any mechanims to do this, but maybe I'm missing something
2014-07-22 17:11 <jeancavallo> pokoli: You can just override raise_user_error and add ssomething in the cocntext
2014-07-22 17:11 <jeancavallo> pokoli: to make it not raise the error (or another one) depending on the error code
2014-07-22 17:13 <jeancavallo> pokoli: But that assumes you know the model which will raise the error
2014-07-22 17:13 <pokoli> jeancavallo: yes, I know the model, basically i raise the error
2014-07-22 17:13 <pokoli> jeancavallo: so I will try this, but maybe this can be improved to avoid overriding_raise_user_error
2014-07-22 17:13 <cedk> pokoli: the exception must be reworked when moving error message to XML
2014-07-22 17:14 <cedk> pokoli: so it will allow to raise any kind of Exception
2014-07-22 17:14 <pokoli> cedk: which issue are you talking about?
2014-07-22 17:16 <cedk> pokoli: I don't think there is an issue
2014-07-22 17:18 <pokoli> cedk: :(, So basically what you propose is to be able to raise any type of exception that inherits from UserError?
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2014-07-22 17:22 <cedk> pokoli: yes
2014-07-22 17:24 <pokoli> so i will try to do this using some check on the context as jeancavallo sugested
2014-07-22 17:24 <pokoli> thanks boths
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2014-07-22 17:46 <pokoli> jeancavallo: I ended raising only the exception depending on the context, without overriding the raise_user_error
2014-07-22 17:49 <jeancavallo> pokoli: that is probably cleaner
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2014-07-22 18:34 <alisonken1lap3> hmm - http://doc.tryton.org/3.2/sources/index.txt doesn't show the source or link to the source
2014-07-22 18:34 <alisonken1lap3> (Source link from http://doc.tryton.org/3.2/)
2014-07-22 18:38 <cedk> alisonken1lap3: it is: http://doc.tryton.org/3.2/_sources/index.txt
2014-07-22 18:38 <alisonken1lap3> cedk: yes - but it's only showing .. toctree::\n:maxdepth: 2\n:glob:
2014-07-22 18:38 <alisonken1lap3> not showing much else
2014-07-22 18:44 <cedk> alisonken1lap3: the source is the source
2014-07-22 18:48 <alisonken1lap3> cedk: http://imgur.com/GYeL17C <-- that's the page I get - is it supposed to be like that? no links, just text
2014-07-22 18:48 <alisonken1lap3> or is my browser doing something else?
2014-07-22 18:49 <pokoli> alisonken1lap3: thats the source of the index page
2014-07-22 18:50 <pokoli> alisonken1home: all the links are generated by sphinx
2014-07-22 18:53 <cedk> alisonken1lap3: I don't understand what you expect more
2014-07-22 18:54 <alisonken1lap3> pokoli: ok - just wondering if the top menu 'Source' link should be that or a link to the program source
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2014-07-22 18:55 <pokoli> alisonken1lap3: whay do you understand by program source?
2014-07-22 18:55 <alisonken1lap3> ok - may take a few lines to explain
2014-07-22 18:56 <alisonken1lap3> at http://doc.tryton.org/3.2/ there's a bar at the top with several links - the bar shows "Tryton - Site - Page - trytond documentation - Source"
2014-07-22 18:57 <alisonken1lap3> When I click on the link that says 'Source' should I see just a couple of lines of text or should I see a page with links to the actual files or should I see links to the source of the documentation files
2014-07-22 18:59 <cedk> alisonken1lap3: what do you mean by "actual files"?
2014-07-22 18:59 <alisonken1lap3> I'm not sure what "Source" I should be seeing when I click on that link
2014-07-22 19:00 <alisonken1lap3> cedk: http://downloads.tryton.org/3.2/ <-- that would be an example of "actual files"
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2014-07-22 19:04 <cedk> alisonken1lap3: so why do you want to have a link on such page to download the page ?
2014-07-22 19:04 <alisonken1lap3> cedk: I was just trying to understand why 'Source' link is on the documentation menu and what it's supposed to be showing
2014-07-22 19:05 <alisonken1lap3> for someone not familiar with tryton it appears to be a confusing link
2014-07-22 19:06 <cedk> alisonken1lap3: it is standard link of any sphinx doc
2014-07-22 19:06 <alisonken1lap3> ok
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