IRC logs of #tryton for Monday, 2014-08-18

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Mon Aug 18 00:00:01 CEST 2014
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marwhy doesn't account_invoice reconcile payment lines immediately?13:53
marhttp://hg.tryton.org/trytond/trytond/modules/account_invoice/file/70c07a2b3fdf/invoice.py#l262013:53
maronly after all lines are paid?13:53
maris there a reason?13:53
marhttp://hg.tryton.org/trytond/trytond/modules/account/file/b82ac1317bdb/account.py#l2140 partialy paid invoices doesn't show up in aged balance report13:55
cedkmar: it doesn't because it depends on the type of payment14:14
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marcedk, is there a payment type that reconciles automatically?14:56
marwhere do I configure this?14:56
cedkmar: it is on the wizard14:58
marwhich one? partial payment?15:00
marI don't see any option to reconcile15:01
cedkmar: it is obvious with the name of options15:01
maryou mean when I press pay and enter amount less then total, select a journal, click ok, there is option to reconcile or not?15:02
marI only get to select write-off / partial payment at that point15:04
cedkmar: so those names are obvious15:04
marbut can I do partial payment + reconcile the amount?15:05
cedkmar: no because it makes no sense15:07
cedkif it is partial, it doesn't pay the all15:07
marbut then aged balance report is wrong, because it shows wrong amount (should subtract partial payment), right?15:08
cedkmar: I don't think so15:16
marwhy?15:18
cedkmar: because it sums the lines15:21
maronly fully paid lines15:21
marI mean only "not reconciled" lines15:21
marbut if lets say client paid 50% of the invoice, the aged balance for that client should be less?15:22
cedkmar: of course only not reconciled because sum of reconciled equals 015:23
marthe report doesn't sound logical to me then15:36
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OmkSending again my question from last thursday evening regarding internal use, damaged products as well as promotional non-charged goods:16:33
OmkSuppose the company sends sample products to a party for testing / review, free of charge. What is the best way of doing that? Sale with price list creating zero value invoice? Or internal shipment, or?16:34
Omk Best would be that also packing list would be generated.16:34
corroOmk: I guess you could just create an outgoing shipment without sale or invoice?16:37
OmkOh that simple! Of course, I did not think of that =)16:38
OmkHow about damaged items - what is the right way? I suppose creating a stock move to lost+found will remove the value from the stock and the products can be discarded. Is this the right way?16:39
OmkHow about internal use of products?16:39
cedkOmk: yes for lost&found16:42
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Omkcedk: thanks. Is internal use also lost&found?17:02
cedkOmk: don't understand17:05
Omkcedk: suppose customer (retail company) takes some of their products from the stock and uses it internally. Then it is not damaged product, but internal use. I think it should be treated differently.17:06
cedkOmk: it must be asset17:14
Omkcedk: meaning?17:14
cedkOmk: product has a type17:15
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Omkcedk: can you please be more specific? I'm not getting you17:16
cedkOmk: if the company uses the product, it can not be a stockable but it must be an asset17:18
cedkOmk: for now, there are no module to help transform a stockable product into an asset17:18
Omkcedk:  but it is consumable. it cannot be asset. Suppose customer is a supermarket. They need coffee and milk for the crew, taking it from the shelve. A stock move must be created. But it cannot be made an asset, as it is consumed in a day or two.17:19
Omkcedk:  reading the finnish accounting norms - in accounting internal use is treated similarly as revenue, it is considered taxable revenue. But if yearly internal use is less than 850 €, it is VAT exempt. Exceeding that , VAT must be paid.17:20
cedkOmk: I have no clue17:21
Omkcedk:  Ok, thanks. I have to do some more research.17:21
Omkcorro: Could you help out in this?17:22
corroOmk: I'm no stock expert, but I guess I would create a new location for 'internal use' and just move the products there17:26
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Omkcorro: thanks, now creating that location. Still have to see how to do the accounting part of it.17:45
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