IRC logs of #tryton for Thursday, 2014-09-11

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu Sep 11 00:00:01 CEST 2014
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2014-09-11 08:00 <mar> is it possible to split account moves so that I can reconcile only a part of payment?
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2014-09-11 09:59 <mar> is it possible to search one2many relation for something?
2014-09-11 09:59 <mar> i mean for example invoice lines, I want to check if product x is in invoice, when I have 100 lines
2014-09-11 09:59 <mar> I'm unable to sort by product, I'm unable to search it, is there any way to do that?
2014-09-11 10:00 <VaticanCameos> I am not able to log into tryton despite setting "admin_passwd = admin" in the conf file that trytond is using. Could anyone please advise me on what I should be doing to fix this?
2014-09-11 10:00 <VaticanCameos> I'm assuming it has no relation with db_password, which is the password of the postgres user.
2014-09-11 10:00 <VaticanCameos> It keeps telling me that the Tryton server password is wrong.
2014-09-11 10:01 <VaticanCameos> I am on Linux Mint...I saw a StackOverflow thread by Wolfgang on the same issue and he is on Ubuntu. I don't think it should make much of a difference. Also, my tryton/trytond combo are in a virtualenv.
2014-09-11 10:02 <jeancavallo> VaticanCameos: Are you sure you are connecting to a running database ? What is in the server loogg ?
2014-09-11 10:03 <VaticanCameos> jeancavallo: In the server terminal window there is no sign of this error.
2014-09-11 10:03 <jeancavallo> VaticanCameos: is there anything ?
2014-09-11 10:04 <VaticanCameos> jeancavallo: Just three INFO lines that usually appear. Should I paste my trytond.conf?
2014-09-11 10:05 <mar> you should see INFO message about connecting to DB when connecting
2014-09-11 10:05 <jeancavallo> VaticanCameos: First, comment the admin_passwd line (admin is the default password).
2014-09-11 10:06 <jeancavallo> VaticanCameos: Second, how did you create the database ?
2014-09-11 10:06 <VaticanCameos> jeancavallo: I am trying to create the DB first
2014-09-11 10:06 <VaticanCameos> By the create DB dialog
2014-09-11 10:06 <VaticanCameos> and I have mentioned localhost:8000
2014-09-11 10:06 <VaticanCameos> Also, the admin_passwd line was not there earlier, I added it to see if it works then
2014-09-11 10:07 <VaticanCameos> mar: the INFO lines showing are "using trytond.conf", "init distributed services" and "JSON-RPC".
2014-09-11 10:07 <VaticanCameos> there is no mention of the server error that just happened.
2014-09-11 10:09 <mar> the next one should be database: connect to "database_name"
2014-09-11 10:09 <VaticanCameos> I have restarted tryton client with -dv options.
2014-09-11 10:10 <VaticanCameos> if I try the login screen that pops up at the beginning
2014-09-11 10:10 <VaticanCameos> INFO:tryton.rpc:common.db.login(admin, xxxxxxxxxx) and then INFO:tryton.rpc:common.db.logout(None, ) after I have clicked OK on the error.
2014-09-11 10:15 <VaticanCameos> jeancavallo: I commented out the line and yet it doesn't work.
2014-09-11 10:18 <cedk> VaticanCameos: admin_password for for database creation not login
2014-09-11 10:19 <VaticanCameos> cedk: but then which is the tryton server password?
2014-09-11 10:19 <cedk> VaticanCameos: the one you entered when you created the database
2014-09-11 10:20 <VaticanCameos> cedk: Suppose I am trying to create a DB, at the DB create dialog
2014-09-11 10:21 <VaticanCameos> The "Tryton Server Password" is supposed to be admin then isn't it?
2014-09-11 10:21 <cedk> mar: yes see: http://doc.tryton.org/3.2/trytond/doc/topics/domain.html#syntax
2014-09-11 10:21 <cedk> VaticanCameos: it is the one in the trytond.conf
2014-09-11 10:22 <VaticanCameos> cedk: admin_passwd field or db_password?
2014-09-11 10:22 <cedk> VaticanCameos: except on trunk
2014-09-11 10:22 <mar> cedk, I don't want to limit possible lines, I want to be able to search for line in GUI
2014-09-11 10:22 <mar> like ctrl+f or something
2014-09-11 10:23 <cedk> VaticanCameos: admin_passwd
2014-09-11 10:24 <cedk> mar: not possible
2014-09-11 10:24 <cedk> mar: for now, but if you come with a syntax enhance, it will be welcomed
2014-09-11 10:25 <mar> I don't think it needs syntax, just client-side search
2014-09-11 10:26 <cedk> mar: and what is the client search if not a syntax?
2014-09-11 10:26 <VaticanCameos> cedk: I have set admin_passwd = admin and I enter admin on the Tryton Server Password field, it is failing. Says that Tryton server password is wrong.
2014-09-11 10:27 <cedk> VaticanCameos: which version?
2014-09-11 10:27 <VaticanCameos> I am on trytond=3.3.0 and tryton=3.3.0
2014-09-11 10:27 <cedk> VaticanCameos: 10:22 < cedk> VaticanCameos: except on trunk
2014-09-11 10:28 <VaticanCameos> pardon my newness, but by "on trunk" you mean the latest developer version?
2014-09-11 10:28 <cedk> VaticanCameos: http://trytond.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/configuration.html#super-pwd
2014-09-11 10:28 <cedk> VaticanCameos: yes and what is 3.3.0 ?
2014-09-11 10:28 <cedk> VaticanCameos: how do you fetch it?
2014-09-11 10:28 <VaticanCameos> I have installed trytond and tryton from the git repositories, by setup.py..
2014-09-11 10:29 <cedk> VaticanCameos: so for you from VCS, it is not trunk ?
2014-09-11 10:29 <VaticanCameos> cedk: yes, from git
2014-09-11 10:33 <VaticanCameos> cedk: trunk is on svn isn't it? I don't use svn
2014-09-11 10:33 <VaticanCameos> slightly confused, sorry.
2014-09-11 10:34 <VaticanCameos> cedk: I should add super_pwd field to trytond.conf? after running that routine
2014-09-11 10:34 <cedk> VaticanCameos: Tryton is developed on mercurial at hg.tryton.org
2014-09-11 10:35 <VaticanCameos> cedk: hmm...and I used the git mirror
2014-09-11 10:35 <cedk> VaticanCameos: don't now from which git repository you are cloning but any way 3.3 is the number of trunk
2014-09-11 10:35 <VaticanCameos> cedk: https://github.com/tryton/trytond.git
2014-09-11 10:37 <cedk> VaticanCameos: it is not the official repository
2014-09-11 10:37 <VaticanCameos> cedk: ah
2014-09-11 10:46 <Pilou> it's an unofficial mirror
2014-09-11 10:47 <VaticanCameos> Pilou: I realized as much
2014-09-11 10:47 <VaticanCameos> Hmm..
2014-09-11 10:48 <VaticanCameos> anyway thanks for the help cedk!
2014-09-11 10:50 <Pilou> This mirror is well maintained by the community. For this mirror, 'trunk' means the 'develop' branch.
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2014-09-11 11:11 <VaticanCameos> Pilou: yes, I pulled the develop branch
2014-09-11 11:17 <Pilou> you should use 'super_pwd' in your server configuration file (http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/file/01399128964f/doc/topics/configuration.rst#l170)
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2014-09-11 11:48 <grasbauer> ACTION next monday last meeting to fix remaining questions - if everything is fine unconferences will be hosted at http://www.htwk-leipzig.de/en/
2014-09-11 11:54 <grasbauer> ACTION and I see no issue - so venue is confirmed ;)
2014-09-11 11:58 <grasbauer> ACTION and for the waverers - still NY-tmes is hyping leipzig - http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/travel/new-berlin-or-not-leipzig-has-new-life.html?_r=0
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2014-09-11 12:42 <holri> hello,
2014-09-11 12:43 <holri> how can i reset the password auf a user in tryton 3.2.3? am i blind, did not find a hint in the docs and the program
2014-09-11 12:44 <grasbauer> holri: do you forget it?
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2014-09-11 12:46 <cedk> holri: as admin, you can set a new password via Adminstration>Users>Users
2014-09-11 12:48 <holri> thanks, I have been in that menu as admin, but did not find a function to set a new password.
2014-09-11 12:48 <holri> ok sorry I AM BLIND!
2014-09-11 12:49 <holri> I found it, thank you, sorry for the noise
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2014-09-11 14:47 <moldy> cedk: yes, i think this would have helped. thanks :)
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2014-09-11 15:11 <moldy> whis there something such as a list of modules i should install to get started with basic tryton useage?
2014-09-11 15:11 <cedk> moldy: what do you mean by basic usage?
2014-09-11 15:13 <moldy> cedk: i am evaluating tryton to see if it can replace our current erp system
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2014-09-11 15:34 <moldy> cedk: basically, i am looking for documentation that shows how to do anything useful, from an end-users perspective.
2014-09-11 15:35 <cedk> moldy: so I guess it depends of the functionnality you want to replace
2014-09-11 15:36 <cedk> moldy: could help: http://doc.tryton.org/3.2/modules/index.html
2014-09-11 15:37 <moldy> cedk: i installed tryton-modules-all, now i am looking for the UI to create some products, for example
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2014-09-11 15:41 <moldy> cedk: after installing tryton-modules-all, i see no difference at all in the ui. did something fail?
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2014-09-11 15:44 <cedk> moldy: you must update the database to get the list of module updated
2014-09-11 15:45 <moldy> ahh
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2014-09-11 16:02 <grasbauer> ACTION Unconference: The venue HTWK is confirmed in general - only the building and room needs to be fixed
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2014-09-11 16:07 <moldy> grasbauer: is this in germany?
2014-09-11 16:07 <grasbauer> ACTION Now I need to convince a friend of mine for doing 360° streaming at conference - http://videostream360.com/ - paying the bills at night should help a bit ...
2014-09-11 16:08 <grasbauer> moldy: yes
2014-09-11 16:08 <moldy> grasbauer: are there any details (location, date)?
2014-09-11 16:08 <grasbauer> http://tul2014.tryton.org/
2014-09-11 16:10 <moldy> grasbauer: thanks
2014-09-11 16:10 <cedk> grasbauer: you mean that he could register the conference?
2014-09-11 16:10 <cedk> grasbauer: and live stream it?
2014-09-11 16:11 <grasbauer> moldy: today I will update the page since the venue is less or more fixed (htwk has a lot of venues in the city - so please subscribe for knowing what kind of space is needed)
2014-09-11 16:12 <cedk> grasbauer: a news will help to get more early subscribtion
2014-09-11 16:12 <grasbauer> cedk: yes - they are doing livestreaming of events - possibly I can convince him that a show case of an unconference is a good example ;)
2014-09-11 16:15 <grasbauer> cedk: yes - now everything its confirmed in general (I will meet the people at htwk at monday to talk about the last things that should be arranged)
2014-09-11 16:16 <grasbauer> cedk: so time for the news - but better anybody else is doing the write up - as demonstrated often here in IRC my english is horrible ..
2014-09-11 16:17 <moldy> grasbauer: subscribe = register?
2014-09-11 16:17 <grasbauer> moldy: yep
2014-09-11 16:18 <moldy> grasbauer: i don't know yet if i will be able to attend
2014-09-11 16:18 <moldy> but i may suggest it to my boss
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2014-09-11 16:21 <grasbauer> moldy: You NEED to stay - it's the sheepest education your boss can get for you ;)
2014-09-11 16:21 <grasbauer> -e+a
2014-09-11 16:22 <grasbauer> udono: ping - possible you can do the news - so I can talk in english, you will do the translation from saxon to german and than to english?
2014-09-11 16:22 <moldy> grasbauer: i believe that, but he will probably only agree if we chose to actually use tryton ;)
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2014-09-11 16:26 <moldy> right now, i am trying to create a purchase order.
2014-09-11 16:26 <grasbauer> moldy: he needs to - are you from germany? I could make contacts to my clients in germany which are using tryton and so they can do a boss2boss talk ..
2014-09-11 16:26 <moldy> it does not let me select a company. what am i missing?
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2014-09-11 16:26 <moldy> grasbauer: yes, we are in düsseldorf
2014-09-11 16:27 <grasbauer> moldy: you are not member of a company - this field is set from your user context
2014-09-11 16:27 <grasbauer> moldy: so no excuse to not stay in leipzig
2014-09-11 16:28 <moldy> grasbauer: i will see what i can do ;)
2014-09-11 16:28 <moldy> we are a very small company, we our time budget is tight
2014-09-11 16:28 <grasbauer> moldy: you could take the bus ;)
2014-09-11 16:29 <moldy> the question is if i can make tryton useful for us without spending too much time on it
2014-09-11 16:29 <moldy> at first glance, it looks ok
2014-09-11 16:29 <moldy> (we hate our current software)
2014-09-11 16:30 <moldy> and having an open source python solution would be nice
2014-09-11 16:30 <moldy> grasbauer: where / how would i create users?
2014-09-11 16:32 <cedk> grasbauer: we can manage the news
2014-09-11 16:32 <cedk> grasbauer: there is no reason you do all the work
2014-09-11 16:39 <moldy> is there any useable end-user documentation? maybe i am just too stupid.
2014-09-11 16:40 <moldy> i created two companies, but i cannot select them when editing a user.
2014-09-11 16:42 <cedk> moldy: for testing, you can also use the demo server, it is easier
2014-09-11 16:42 <cedk> moldy: you must configure user to belong to a company
2014-09-11 16:42 <cedk> moldy: by the way, if you don't need multi-company better to avoid creating many companies
2014-09-11 16:43 <cedk> moldy: but normally, the setup wizard should have do this for you
2014-09-11 16:43 <moldy> i need multi-company
2014-09-11 16:43 <moldy> which setup wizard?
2014-09-11 16:43 <cedk> moldy: realy?
2014-09-11 16:44 <cedk> moldy: you just said you are a small company
2014-09-11 16:44 <moldy> cedk: yes, but we act as 2 companies
2014-09-11 16:44 <cedk> moldy: good luck
2014-09-11 16:45 <Timitos> moldy: why not create two databases? one for every company?
2014-09-11 16:45 <cedk> moldy: FYI: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tryton/UQB657-KcGI/discussion
2014-09-11 16:48 <moldy> Timitos: yep, that is what we are doing with our current software. might be the way to go.
2014-09-11 16:48 <moldy> Timitos: i am just starting to fool around with tryton, and i was not nure what a "company" in tryton is. i thought it might be a supplier.
2014-09-11 16:51 <cedk> moldy: no a company is company managed by the software
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2014-09-11 16:51 <moldy> cedk: ok, thanks
2014-09-11 16:52 <cedk> moldy: but as I said in my email, I think the current design of multi-company is a dead end
2014-09-11 16:53 <cedk> moldy: so if you can manage with 2 DB that's fine
2014-09-11 16:53 <cedk> moldy: what are the relation/communication between the 2 companies?
2014-09-11 16:53 <moldy> cedk: it's the same people acting as 2 different entities
2014-09-11 16:54 <cedk> moldy: but no trade between both?
2014-09-11 16:55 <moldy> cedk: one company is a supplier for the other
2014-09-11 16:55 <moldy> cedk: but it's probably not very important that we model that in our software system
2014-09-11 16:56 <cedk> moldy: so purchase from one side should be encoded as sale on the other
2014-09-11 16:57 <moldy> cedk: ideally, yes.
2014-09-11 16:57 <cedk> moldy: also it depends if you get a lot of products in this case
2014-09-11 16:57 <cedk> moldy: such thing should be manage by EDI message (but not yet in Tryton)
2014-09-11 16:58 <moldy> cedk: the inter-company relationship is not crucially important here. we do not model it in software so far.
2014-09-11 17:00 <cedk> moldy: so try Tryton with just one company
2014-09-11 17:01 <cedk> moldy: and the easy way is to follow the setup wizard that run on first login of new database
2014-09-11 17:02 <moldy> i will give it another try
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