IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2015-03-24

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2015-03-24 08:46 <VaticanCameos> Is it possible to open a URL from Tryton? (ir.action.url perhaps?)
2015-03-24 08:46 <VaticanCameos> For example, click a button and trigger the opening of a url in the browser
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2015-03-24 11:05 <yangoon1> VaticanCameos: you can have a look at the google_maps module
2015-03-24 11:17 <VaticanCameos> yangoon1: That has examples of using the url widget
2015-03-24 11:19 <cedk> VaticanCameos: yes you can use the ir.action.url
2015-03-24 11:20 <VaticanCameos> cedk: I was not able to find any examples of ir.action.url being used. What I'm trying to do is click a button which should trigger the launch of a url in the browser.
2015-03-24 11:20 <VaticanCameos> cedk: could you please point me to some example of ir.action.url?
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2015-03-24 11:30 <cedk> VaticanCameos: there is no example
2015-03-24 11:30 <cedk> VaticanCameos: it is an action like any others
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2015-03-24 17:02 <grasbauer> hi
2015-03-24 17:07 <grasbauer> I still thinking about a extension: I have a customer where the clerks in the warehouse are doing purchases by telefon on demand - but backoffice needs to handle such purchases in accounting. So I think about creating a invoice lines if shipment.in is received - anz concerns?
2015-03-24 17:08 <grasbauer> whooo - my keybord changed to english :)
2015-03-24 17:14 <cedk> grasbauer: why not encoding a purchase?
2015-03-24 17:15 <grasbauer> cedk: I asked the same :) but the people in the warehouse is verz diffrent from people in backoffice ...
2015-03-24 17:18 <cedk> grasbauer: but they do purchase?
2015-03-24 17:20 <grasbauer> cedk: purchase !=purchase in that case: they now what they need and simply calling a supplier by phone
2015-03-24 17:22 <cedk> grasbauer: don't see the difference with a purchase
2015-03-24 17:29 <grasbauer> cedk: you are right - but a complete purchase workflow needs some clicks more
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2015-03-24 17:30 <pokoli> grasbauer: but you can trigger the full workflow from a custom wizard
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2015-03-24 17:32 <cedk> grasbauer: for me, it sounds like a company that wants an ERP but don't want to use an ERP
2015-03-24 17:32 <grasbauer> pokoli: good sugestion
2015-03-24 17:33 <pokoli> grasbauer: it's like creating the invoice directly from the shipment, but reusing the existing code of purchase, and keep the correct flow
2015-03-24 17:34 <grasbauer> cedk: you should better think: management of company want erp - nobody else :)
2015-03-24 17:34 <pokoli> grasbauer: you only to ensure that the stock moves are linked correctly with the new purchase lines
2015-03-24 17:35 <grasbauer> pokoli cedk: ok - so I start hacking :)
2015-03-24 17:36 <cedk> grasbauer: I don't understand at all the concept of warehouse guys purchase stuffs
2015-03-24 17:37 <grasbauer> cedk: warehouse guys needs to ensure that everything is available - but they don't care about accounting
2015-03-24 17:38 <cedk> grasbauer: still it is not understable
2015-03-24 17:40 <grasbauer> cedk: think the warehouse guy as an human who hates computers - he see a button shipment in and want to do a direct purchase, it's a workflow just in time ...
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2015-03-24 17:42 <grasbauer> by the way; visiting odoo on cebit wearing a tryton shirt is fun
2015-03-24 17:43 <cedk> grasbauer: What the hell! He doesn't even talk to the supplier?
2015-03-24 17:44 <cedk> grasbauer: normally you can not receive products without origin
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2015-03-24 17:44 <cedk> grasbauer: so you could write come code that in such case it creates an origin that will do "I don't know what"
2015-03-24 17:45 <grasbauer> cedk: I understand your concerns ...
2015-03-24 17:45 <cedk> but at least you know there is something coming in which was not purchased
2015-03-24 17:47 <grasbauer> cedk: it's only the step purchase what is not documented in tryton, because shipment in is more or less (2hours) real time
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2015-03-24 17:49 <cedk> grasbauer: but it is still strange to not create a purchase even if delivery is fast
2015-03-24 17:50 <cedk> grasbauer: what if delivery is not fast, never happen, doesn't correspond to what was ordered
2015-03-24 17:50 <cedk> grasbauer: happens the next day and the guy is not there
2015-03-24 17:50 <cedk> grasbauer: so you have to explain your user that's what he wants is to not use an ERP and work with just words
2015-03-24 17:51 <grasbauer> cedk: ;) zou
2015-03-24 17:56 <grasbauer> cedk: you are right - but: giving the supplier a call: "I need 25 bootles of beer" - the answer is "sorry, I have only 22" - "Ok - send me the 22" - done. Than each guy in the company can create a shipment.in - with 22 or even 21 if one is broken. and for accounting the only information is: we need to pay 22 or 21. If he do a purchase with 25, all the system is waiting for 3 ore 5 that are not delivered
2015-03-24 17:59 <cedk> grasbauer: so use purchase
2015-03-24 17:59 <cedk> grasbauer: or don't use Tryton
2015-03-24 17:59 <cedk> grasbauer: in real life everything is simplier without a software
2015-03-24 17:59 <cedk> but you don't have the same result
2015-03-24 18:02 <grasbauer> cedk: we should collect your statements in a wall of fame :) - ok - I'm (a bit) convinced
2015-03-24 18:09 <grasbauer> cedk: but my approach is that software should simplify real life - and receiving goods without a purchase should trigger something for the people in accounting to just know about the things people in the warehouse does.
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2015-03-24 18:12 <JGras> sytem gone
2015-03-24 18:14 <cedk> JGras: you can still dream
2015-03-24 18:16 <JGras> cedk: arch update broke my system - need to recover
2015-03-24 18:18 <JGras> ACTION systemd
2015-03-24 18:18 <cedk> JGras: The general design of Tryton is to not allow to encode shipment that are not linked to a document like a purchase or a sale
2015-03-24 18:19 <cedk> JGras: because they are the main document
2015-03-24 18:19 <cedk> JGras: after that you can remove this constraint and write some code to find such move and do what ever you want
2015-03-24 18:20 <cedk> but I guess you will miss the price, the payment term etc.
2015-03-24 18:20 <cedk> + there will be not check about integrity between the shipment and the invoice
2015-03-24 18:20 <cedk> and I can go like that for hours...
2015-03-24 18:24 <JGras> cedk: I will go with your argumentation tomorrow. You are right, but we have to deal with the wishes of customers ...
2015-03-24 18:26 <cedk> JGras: except when their wishes are dreams
2015-03-24 18:26 <cedk> JGras: moreover, I don't see why warehouse guy can not encode a purchase when he is on the phone and 2 hours later validate the shipment
2015-03-24 18:26 <cedk> if it doesn't do that, I don't see what he wants to do
2015-03-24 18:27 <cedk> encode the shipment before reception? encode the purchase after reception?
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2015-03-24 18:56 <mathsniper> Hi, why does "sao" always get transparent gray background after clicking "OK" in "save dialog" for model like Party?
2015-03-24 18:58 <mathsniper> I can't do anything except refresh the page
2015-03-24 19:00 <mathsniper> I'm using Chrome
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2015-03-24 19:11 <JGras> cedk: you are right in everything :)
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2015-03-24 19:19 <JGras> mathsniper: this is a bug in bootsrap
2015-03-24 19:19 <mathsniper> will it be fixed?
2015-03-24 19:20 <JGras> cedk: we should remove the class explicitely on close dialog
2015-03-24 19:21 <JGras> modal-backdrop fade in
2015-03-24 19:22 <udono> mathsniper: hi, you may want to file an issue
2015-03-24 19:23 <udono> mathsniper: https://bugs.tryton.org/
2015-03-24 19:23 <JGras> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22056147/bootstrap-modal-backdrop-remaining
2015-03-24 19:23 <mathsniper> How to open file of this issue?
2015-03-24 19:24 <mathsniper> I just fixed it on my local
2015-03-24 19:25 <mathsniper> jQuery('my-button').on('click', function() { $('body').removeClass('modal-open'); $('.modal-backdrop').remove(); } );
2015-03-24 19:29 <notzippy> An easier implementation of bootstrap dialog http://nakupanda.github.io/bootstrap3-dialog/
2015-03-24 19:30 <mathsniper> Seems like the sao main less file is not available / implemented?
2015-03-24 19:46 <mathsniper> https://bugs.tryton.org/issue4671
2015-03-24 19:50 <JGras> mathsniper: can you attach the patch to the issue?
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2015-03-24 19:56 <mathsniper> Will do it tomorrow. It's 3am HongKong time and I gonna sleep...
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2015-03-24 20:38 <cedk> mathsniper: for the bootstrap bug, I think we should first try with a more up to date
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2015-03-24 20:54 <prakashpp> cedk: hi, correct me if I’m wrong: https://github.com/tryton/trytond/blob/3.4/trytond/model/model.py#L397 in case of Product model, if this is looking for some on_change method it may fall to Template also?
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2015-03-24 21:00 <prakashpp> cedk: I had implemented some on_change fields on product model which is leading me to maximum recursion depth error, debugging shows client was calling on_change_active on product which I havent implemented nor tryton does in product module.
2015-03-24 21:00 <prakashpp> pokoli: are you around?
2015-03-24 21:03 <cedk> prakashpp: too few information
2015-03-24 21:05 <cedk> prakashpp: the code you link looks correct to me
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2015-03-24 21:38 <cedk> FYI, the mathsniper's issue is fixed with 3641b52591bd
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