IRC logs of #tryton for Monday, 2015-04-06

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Mon Apr 6 00:00:02 CEST 2015
2015-04-06 00:24 <plantian> cedk: yes, I'm not sure what is best way to fix my workflow, customers always want to change their order after it is placed online
2015-04-06 00:26 <cedk> plantian: how much time do you need to prepare the order?
2015-04-06 00:26 <cedk> plantian: do you need to have them earlier to manage your warehouse etc.
2015-04-06 00:27 <plantian> cedk: You mean between when online order is placed and when it is shipped?
2015-04-06 00:28 <cedk> plantian: yes
2015-04-06 00:28 <cedk> plantian: do you really need it to be process so early?
2015-04-06 00:28 <plantian> Between 2 days and a week.
2015-04-06 00:28 <plantian> Reason to create shipment is to remove items from inventory so website quantities are updated.
2015-04-06 00:29 <plantian> But also shipment must be created to create picking list for warehouse.
2015-04-06 00:29 <cedk> plantian: I already suggested this workflow to a customer: create draft move before processing
2015-04-06 00:30 <cedk> plantian: for example on validate and allow to go back from validate to draft (by removing draft moves)
2015-04-06 00:30 <cedk> plantian: and when processing, you delete again the draft move and let the usual workflow doing the job
2015-04-06 00:31 <plantian> cedk: Are draft moves an additional relationship on the sale model ?
2015-04-06 00:32 <cedk> plantian: don't understand
2015-04-06 00:32 <cedk> I also think such module could have its place in standard sets
2015-04-06 00:33 <plantian> cedk: Create draft stock moves for each sale line and place them in SaleLine.moves ?
2015-04-06 00:34 <cedk> plantian: yes
2015-04-06 00:35 <plantian> cedk: Once I obtain picking list though then the sale cannot be altered right ?
2015-04-06 00:36 <cedk> plantian: once it is processing
2015-04-06 00:37 <cedk> plantian: so in your case, you should try to delay as much as possible the processing of the sale
2015-04-06 00:37 <cedk> plantian: but you need your warehouse forecast so you must encode draft moves
2015-04-06 00:38 <plantian> Right, but there is cases where employee goes to pick product and the product is not in good enough condition because the products are live plants. Then a substitute plant must be chosen or quantity is reduced on sale.
2015-04-06 00:38 <plantian> That is why I was thinking a customer shipment might be better, but draft moves solves the online inventory problem.
2015-04-06 00:39 <cedk> plantian: you should not pick product before the processing
2015-04-06 00:40 <plantian> cedk: But I can't change the sale after sale is changed to processing.
2015-04-06 00:41 <cedk> plantian: not you can not but you can change the shipment and deal on the sale the exceptions
2015-04-06 00:41 <plantian> cedk: Okay, I will try that now to see what it looks like.
2015-04-06 00:41 <cedk> plantian: and also there is: https://bugs.tryton.org/issue4489
2015-04-06 00:46 <plantian> cedk: It seems that only option is to recreate exact same shipment.
2015-04-06 00:46 <plantian> I'm using 2.8 though maybe it is just broken.
2015-04-06 00:48 <cedk> plantian: yes of course
2015-04-06 00:48 <cedk> plantian: or you can skip them
2015-04-06 00:50 <plantian> cedk: How do I skip them ? I only selected one line to recreate in wizard but it re-created both.
2015-04-06 00:54 <plantian> Looks like customer shipment by itself cannot be altered either once it is assigned. So that wouldn't be editable either but at least I could change it back to draft to adjust quantities and items and then assign again and hope it was close to what I had already picked.
2015-04-06 00:55 <cedk> plantian: You have a big issue if your data are wrong
2015-04-06 00:55 <plantian> cedk: Right now we can't do anything so we just ignore extra items or less items. So it is already consistently wrong.
2015-04-06 00:56 <plantian> It is problem with strict model, it is supposed to make data more consistent but then employees cannot easily correct mistakes.
2015-04-06 00:57 <plantian> I will keep thinking about it. Maybe just using tryton for inventory management without sales and only using shipments would be better suited for this scenario.
2015-04-06 00:58 <plantian> cedk: Thanks for link I will watch for wizard.
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2015-04-06 11:33 <ciupicri> does the ldap_connection module exist anymore?
2015-04-06 11:37 <cedk> ciupicri: no it is replaced by section in the configuration file
2015-04-06 11:37 <ciupicri> ok, thank you
2015-04-06 11:38 <cedk> ciupicri: http://doc.tryton.org/3.4/modules/ldap_authentication/doc/index.html#configuration
2015-04-06 11:38 <ciupicri> hg npull -u was failing on it, that's why I've asked
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