IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2016-12-06

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue Dec 6 00:00:01 CET 2016
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cedktryingtryton: please fix your email address or I will have to deactivate bug tracker notification for you02:38
cedktryingtryton: https://support.google.com/a/answer/16838302:39
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elbenfreundhello there :)09:35
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mrichezhi, which tool do you use to check your xml files? (a flake8 for xml) Is there an xsd file for tryton ? (80 cols, ...)11:18
johbodoes anyone know why the client uses the empty string as default for char fields instead of None?11:30
johbohttps://hg.tryton.org/tryton/file/tip/tryton/gui/window/view_form/model/field.py#l18811:30
johbostranted there after noticing a behavior which was surprising for me: When adding a char field in a depends for another field, I suddenly got the empty string instead of None back from the client.11:32
johboCurrenlty I am not sure if the client should behave differently or if that's intended and I should work around it by using a custom type in the server to translate it back to None for my case.11:33
cedkjohbo: because None can not be rendered in the client11:35
cedkmrichez: you can use xmllint11:40
mrichezcedk: ok and with specific options or schema file ?11:43
cedkmrichez: you can use the right relaxng schema from tryton11:45
cedkmrichez: I never use it11:45
johbocedk: I see. Then its probably intended for char fields. Just found it odd that I get None back from the client when I do not refer the field in a depends clause of another field and suddenly the empty string when referring to it. But this might also due to the fact that the field is not visible in the client.11:46
mrichezcedk: so how do you check quickly errors in xml file when reviewing code ? Manually ?11:46
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cedkmrichez: indeed vim does it for me via syntastic which uses xmllint11:59
cedkmrichez: but without any schema11:59
mrichezcedk: ok thanks, i really should switch to vim :-)12:00
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elbenfreundWhilst most ducumentation seems to geared towards devs, is there any hands-on user focused documentation available? Inparticular, modules seem to provide only very basic sphinx generated autodocs. Am I missing something?12:50
mrichezelbenfreund: http://doc.tryton.org/4.2/13:39
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elbenfreundmrichez: ty. I was aware of the general docs. So I take it there is no real "how do I do X" kind of documentation besides various bits and pieces found on youtube et al. I noticed that this has been pointed out at previous unconferences before - is there any general interest/initiative to provide such documentation geared towards users?14:07
mrichezelbenfreund: no. Some people try to begin a documentation but they quick leave this project, lack of time or motivation. You're welcome to launch it!14:10
elbenfreundhehe :) I noticed that the (old) wiki is no more and you use discuss.tryton.org now, which is probably not suited for such an endevor14:16
elbenfreundmrichez: thanks again for the clarification. it a bit of a pitty seeing that the project has matured significantly over the last years but still lacks in this department14:17
mrichezelbenfreund: it's not the first discussion about documentation. May be you could talk about this on discuss.tryton.org14:20
elbenfreundmrichez: will do, thanks :)14:22
tryingtrytonelbenfreund: having the same problem here. for example, how do sales work?14:24
elbenfreundtryingtryton: I am the maintainer of a rather big FLOSS project myself, so i will not be able to spent huge amounts of time on tryton. But I feel that if I invest into learning at least some of the basics, others may as well profit from this. So instead of writing into a personal wiki we can come up with a share resource to get started if others feel the same14:26
elbenfreundmrichez: would the "communication" category on 'discuss' be appropiate, or rather "uncategoriezed'?14:27
tryingtrytonI'm going to have to learn this software and write documentation for our users anyway. Thus, it's not too much of a step to make a generalised version and share it. Perhaps, we could work on this together.14:27
elbenfreundtryingtryton: sounds great.14:28
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tryingtrytonJust have to figure out how some things work first. ;)14:34
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mrichezelbenfreund: good question, you should ask to cedk when i'll be there ? or some other tryton admins could answer to you ? pokoli: ?14:44
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tryingtrytonI'm making a test sale from a parent company to a child company. In the customer shipment, it shows both the customer and the company as the same entity. Why?16:12
tryingtrytonThe child company was configured as the party in the sale.16:13
tryingtrytonAlso, when i change to the child company in preferences, how do i see this sale?16:26
tryingtrytonIt's not in any purchases.16:26
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flachtassekasseis it possible to create two or more calendars with the same owner?16:45
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tryingtrytoncedk: I'm making a test sale from a parent company to a child company. In the customer shipment, it shows both the customer and the company as the same entity. Why? The child company was configured as the party in the sale. Also, when i change to the child company in preferences, how do i see this sale? It's not in any purchases.16:57
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cedktryingtryton: there is not inter-company exchange17:03
cedktryingtryton: each operation must be encoded in both side17:04
cedktryingtryton: for me, Tryton is not yet fully ready for multi-company17:08
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