IRC logs of #tryton for Thursday, 2017-08-03

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu Aug 3 00:00:01 CEST 2017
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2017-08-03 14:03 <pokoli> cedk: about https://bugs.tryton.org/issue6389, i'm wondering if it's a good moment to remove duplicate ir.button.access rules
2017-08-03 14:04 <pokoli> cedk: I mean, that rules that are redundant with write access
2017-08-03 14:04 <pokoli> thoughs?
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2017-08-03 14:56 <cedk> pokoli: what duplicate are you talking?
2017-08-03 15:05 <pokoli> cedk: button access that are the same as write access on the model
2017-08-03 15:05 <pokoli> cedk: as the user allowed to write on the model will be allowed to click the button, this is duplicated
2017-08-03 15:06 <cedk> pokoli: I mean where do you see such case?
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2017-08-03 15:10 <pokoli> cedk: http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_statement/file/b179ef5d2a36/statement.xml#l239
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2017-08-03 15:11 <cedk> pokoli: I do not see issue with this code
2017-08-03 15:12 <pokoli> cedk: it can be simplified by removing the button access, and let it manage by write access on model (as both groups are allowed to write on the model)
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2017-08-03 15:13 <cedk> pokoli: I do not see any benefit
2017-08-03 15:14 <pokoli> cedk: ok, so I try to simplify it
2017-08-03 15:15 <uha41> Hello, i'm working on a module to sync our online-shop with tryton. I came across your discussion about the new module sale_payment, and wonder if it is usable already.
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2017-08-03 15:16 <cedk> pokoli: it is not what I mean, I do not see any benefit in this move
2017-08-03 15:17 <pokoli> cedk: understood, that was what I was asking
2017-08-03 15:17 <pokoli> uha41: on which trytond version are you working on?
2017-08-03 15:18 <uha41> pokoli: 4.4
2017-08-03 15:19 <pokoli> uha41: I have a backported version on: https://bitbucket.org/pokoli/sale_payment that should work on 4.4 as is
2017-08-03 15:19 <pokoli> uha41: but I don't plan to maintain it anymore when 4.6 is released, so you should upgrade to 4.6 then
2017-08-03 15:20 <pokoli> uha41: and I'm not sure it has the latest review version
2017-08-03 15:21 <uha41> pokoli: thanks, i'll try. I just wondered, because rietveld has the diffs, but i didn't see any place to download the code.
2017-08-03 15:22 <pokoli> uha41: because the definitive repository does not exist yet
2017-08-03 15:23 <pokoli> uha41: but you should probably test the rietvield patch first and comment there if there is something missing
2017-08-03 15:25 <uha41> pokoli: i don't know yet how to use these paches
2017-08-03 15:25 <pokoli> uha41: create an empty mercurial repository (with hg init) and the fetch the patch as usuall
2017-08-03 15:26 <pokoli> uha41: how to fetch a patch (via hgreview) is explained on http://www.tryton.org/how-to-contribute.html
2017-08-03 15:28 <uha41> pokoli: but what i've seen looking at the discussion, is, that you say there, that no payment term is allowed. What about creating a special payment term, to indicate in sale view, that this should be prepayed.
2017-08-03 15:29 <uha41> but i suppose, i should write tis in rietveld too...
2017-08-03 15:32 <pokoli> uha41: as it's a desing issue, probably on the releated issue on bugs.tryton.org (or on the original design discussion on discuss.tryton.org)
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2017-08-03 15:53 <uha41> pokoli: do i need a google-account in order to use rietveld? I don't have a google-account, and i would like to avoid it in future too.
2017-08-03 15:53 <pokoli> uha41: if you use hgreview yes
2017-08-03 15:54 <pokoli> uha41: you can download the patch as raw and apply it using mercurial import
2017-08-03 15:54 <uha41> pokoli: that was my next step to try...
2017-08-03 15:55 <pokoli> uha41: there is a google to be less google dependent: https://bugs.tryton.org/issue2177
2017-08-03 15:56 <pokoli> uha41: you are probably interested on: https://bugs.tryton.org/issue2178
2017-08-03 16:01 <uha41> pokoli: ok, so there is hope not to need a google-account when i contribute in the future...
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2017-08-03 16:05 <uha41> pokoli: i quite some topics, i came across working with tryton, but at the moment i'm too busy building up our company, to do more than get it running for our needs. As soon as i have some more time, i want contribute more active...
2017-08-03 16:05 <pokoli> uha41: there is the plan since 2011, but nobody has ever worked on it
2017-08-03 16:06 <pokoli> uha41: don't worry, tryton is a comunity driven project, that evolves thanks to people voluntari contributing to it
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2017-08-03 18:19 <cedk> uha41: maybe you are looking for sale_advance_payment
2017-08-03 18:20 <cedk> uha41: sale_payment is to manage payment from webshop for example
2017-08-03 18:20 <cedk> sale_advance_payment is a way to schedule many partial payment and block shipment before payments etc.
2017-08-03 18:24 <uha41> cedk: as i'm working on a module to sync the orders from our webshop, i think sale_payment is the right thing. I had a look at sale_advance_payment, but it seems too much creating a pro-forma invoice first.
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2017-08-03 18:50 <cedk> uha41: by the way, I have a 4.4 branch of it at http://hg.b2ck.com/sale_payment/
2017-08-03 18:51 <cedk> uha41: we have one production installation running it for a webshop
2017-08-03 18:51 <cedk> basicly we create payments on the sale before the shipping using stripe
2017-08-03 19:01 <uha41> cedk: now i cloned the backport from pokoli he showed me earlyer. should be as good, or?
2017-08-03 19:02 <uha41> cedk: i don't know stripe, but i imagine it to be something like PayPal.
2017-08-03 19:03 <uha41> cedk: i'll have to take care for paypal payments too, so i'll have a look.
2017-08-03 19:04 <cedk> uha41: stripe is kind of like Paypal but with a much simpler API
2017-08-03 19:06 <cedk> uha41: but Stripe does not do the wallet stuffs, it is mainly payments
2017-08-03 19:07 <uha41> cedk: for usual prepayment orders with our Webshop i imagine the workflow as we did it manually until now: If the customer selects prepayment, we wait until payment arrives, register the payment, and then generate the invoce, so we can print on the Invoice 'amount received at 3.8.2017'
2017-08-03 19:08 <uha41> if i generate the invoice first, i cant alter it to confirm Payment.
2017-08-03 19:09 <uha41> cedk: i don't think i'll deal with the paypal API. Our Webshop has a plugin to do so, and i'll generate the payment from the data i receive from our shop
2017-08-03 19:12 <cedk> uha41: so you do not really manage payments in Tryton
2017-08-03 19:18 <uha41> depending what you include with 'managing payments'. I want to use it for accounting, stock management and just automate whatever makes sense. I#
2017-08-03 19:22 <uha41> cedk: I'm new to accounting, always learning whats needed. Later when the Company grows, i suppose payment management makes sense, but i suppose then i don'n take care of these things alone anymore.
2017-08-03 19:26 <cedk> uha41: can not make choices for you
2017-08-03 19:28 <uha41> of cause not. You seemed intrested, so i wanted to give you the picture. Ant sometimes you have tips if you know what's intended
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2017-08-03 22:22 <Alex_Bkash> psycopg2.ProgrammingError: relation "ir_cache" does not exist
2017-08-03 22:23 <Alex_Bkash> when i run command -->sudo bin/trytond -c /etc/tryton.conf -v -d tryton_db
2017-08-03 22:38 <cedk> Alex_Bkash: database does not seems to be updated/initialized
2017-08-03 22:41 <Alex_Bkash> thanks cedk. resolved that
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