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| 2017-08-10 09:19 <savumies> Yesterday kstenger suggested me to use Eval('M2Ofield', {}).get('state', None)) but when I do I get an error: 'int' object has no attribute 'get'. And I did set the depends=['M2Ofield'] | ||
| 2017-08-10 09:20 <savumies> What am I missing? | ||
| 2017-08-10 09:44 <pokoli> savumies: you should probably add a function field that returns the Many2ONe state | ||
| 2017-08-10 09:45 <pokoli> savumies: http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_invoice/file/67e116210e53/invoice.py#l1425 | ||
| 2017-08-10 09:45 <pokoli> savumies: http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_invoice/file/67e116210e53/invoice.py#l1438 | ||
| 2017-08-10 09:45 <pokoli> savumies: http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_invoice/file/67e116210e53/invoice.py#l1677 | ||
| 2017-08-10 09:46 <pokoli> savumies: as the Function field is defined via on_change_with it will be update automatically by the client when changing the value of the Many2One field | ||
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| 2017-08-10 09:58 <savumies> pokoli: thank you. btw, what is the _parent_invoice in the depends? It is not defined anywhere I could find. | ||
| 2017-08-10 09:58 <savumies> hg.tryton.org/modules/account_invoice/file/67e116210e53/invoice.py#l1676 | ||
| 2017-08-10 09:59 <savumies> I have seen the same in the sale module. This is bugging me. | ||
| 2017-08-10 10:01 <pokoli> savumies: parent is used to use the parent record on a One2Many field | ||
| 2017-08-10 10:02 <pokoli> savumies: so _parent_invoice.state is the "state" of the record that points the invoice field. But it's only loaded when used on a One2Many | ||
| 2017-08-10 10:06 <cedk> better to add it to the documentation | ||
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| 2017-08-10 11:04 <savumies> wow. That is great! | ||
| 2017-08-10 11:05 <savumies> created issue6711 | ||
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| 2017-08-10 13:52 <LordVan> hi | ||
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| 2017-08-10 14:14 <LordVan> If i want to - later - also publish my custom module is there a specific naming scheme i should use? | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:15 <LordVan> (i've sseen trytond-module_name and also devname-trytond-module_name and others | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:18 <cedk> LordVan: trytond prefix is reserved for standard module | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:19 <LordVan> cedk, ok good to know. thanks | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:19 <LordVan> i did not see that in the docs anywhere .. but maybe i overlooked it | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:20 <LordVan> I think the first thing I will do is write something similar to mds_party_fieldaddon (but slightly different) | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:20 <LordVan> as I want seperate first name, last name , title, academic title fields | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:20 <cedk> LordVan: it should not be in the doc, it is practice and trademark management | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:22 <LordVan> fair enough :) | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:22 <LordVan> i don't want to step on anyone's toes, so that is why i asked ;) | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:22 <LordVan> I mean as long as i only have it locally it doesn't matter, but I thought I'd probably publish it too | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:23 <LordVan> btw there's no online (already generated) version of this is there? : https://tryton-rietveld.appspot.com/32711002/ | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:23 <LordVan> (i keep having to sort it out on different machines haha) | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:23 <cedk> LordVan: should read: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:24 <LordVan> cedk, i like that ^^ | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:25 <cedk> LordVan: and https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tryton/9dQcP3AgAB0/discussion | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:26 <cedk> LordVan: also I personaly think that publishing specific modules is not a good practice | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:27 <cedk> I think it generates confusion | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:27 <LordVan> well i think for the german speaking countries those things are mostly useful I think - but i know it is not generic of course | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:27 <cedk> it is better to have only published modules that can be really reused | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:28 <LordVan> agreed | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:28 <LordVan> i do not intend to push the other module(s) I will need for our production/project requirements as they are too specific anyway | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:28 <LordVan> (or maybe only as examples for others if I am happy enough with them) | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:29 <LordVan> but e.g. the module where we want to be able to specify the (customer) expected delivery date for a product does feel like it could be useful to someone else too (if I don't make it part of the bigger one) | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:32 <LordVan> cedk, but yes i know (from previous dev projects as well) that the topic of names (esp. if you include titles,.. ) is a tricky one | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:33 <LordVan> that said unfortunately just one "name" field as tryton has by default is not going to work for us i think | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:36 <LordVan> cedk, just curious, but do you know if a lot of tryton installs use "just" that one name field, or if there are many that add things like "first name", "title" ,... seperately? | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:38 <cedk> LordVan: I convince all my customers that it is the *right* design | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:39 <LordVan> cedk, wow .. you seem to be good at convincing ^^ | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:39 <LordVan> the thing is, how would you handle something like how to address people (Mr. / Mrs / Ms ) and possibly academic titles ? | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:39 <LordVan> having them always in the name seems a bit much to me tbh | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:40 <LordVan> when generating invoices for example | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:41 <LordVan> would you put all that in the one name field ? like (german example) : "Herr Ing, Dr. (FH) Max Hans Mustermann" | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:41 <LordVan> ? | ||
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| 2017-08-10 14:53 <LordVan> btw | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:53 <LordVan> are the "identifiers" on a party intended only for tax identifiers? (ie not for other company related numbers given out by governments) ? | ||
| 2017-08-10 14:54 <LordVan> like company register numbers | ||
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| 2017-08-10 14:57 <LordVan> cedk, btw after thinking about it some more i do agree about the "name" field. You do have a point (minus the issue of academic title / how to address people (Mr/Mrs/Ms/..) ) | ||
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| 2017-08-10 15:10 <savumies> LordVan: Instead of publishing a more specific module you could just make it available through bitbucket or github. That way it serves as example if someone needs something similar. | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:11 <LordVan> yes | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:11 <LordVan> savumies, i was thinking e.g. if i make a module to add salutation that is generic enough for anyone to use imho - and another one maybe for academic (or whatever) title | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:12 <pokoli> LordVan: identifiers are intended for any kind of party identifier. Tax is on of the possible types :) | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:14 <LordVan> pokoli, thanks - in the code i read things like get_tax_identifier which is why i wasn't sure if it was meant for toher identifiers too | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:20 <cedk> LordVan: The title is a property of a party so I would store it in a field | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:21 <cedk> LordVan: but you probably will need a method that combine it with the name depending of the locales | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:21 <LordVan> cedk, yes - i was thinking for simplicity maybe One2Many for the title like Mr/Mrs/miss/ .. and a plain text field for academic title (too many variations imho) | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:22 <LordVan> cedk, yes the combining method would be needed too | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:22 <LordVan> and probably gender (if the party is a person and not a company) | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:23 <cedk> LordVan: gender is usually not needed for business | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:23 <LordVan> cedk, I was only thinking maybe instead of salutation, but yes the salutation would (in case of german at least) specify the genter too | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:24 <LordVan> though i think for japanese one would maybe need it seperately sometimes | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:26 <cedk> LordVan: I think Japanese is probably the most complicate one as they have difference word depending on the relationship between the interlocutors | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:26 <LordVan> yes exqactly | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:26 <LordVan> cedk, i gave it as an example as I am studying it ;) | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:26 <LordVan> but i do not need it for business (yet at least haha) | ||
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| 2017-08-10 15:27 <cedk> LordVan: having title in standard module will require a lot of research to ensure to have a solution that works world wide | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:28 <LordVan> cedk, i agree - though I wonder if the academic title was "just" a text field that would be pretty generic i think (maybe not the order where one would put it when writing a letter of course) | ||
| 2017-08-10 15:28 <LordVan> salutation is the more complicated part imho | ||
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