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| acaubet | shoud I need to install anything on tryton to be able to preview a document? Images are shown properly but no pdfs. | 11:31 |
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| cedk | acaubet: you need Evince and its python binding | 11:32 |
| pokoli | cedk: about the statement discussion, if you want we can do a remote session where I shown several statements, sepa files and how everything is working. I have a lot of examples to share | 11:55 |
| pokoli | The problem in spain is that each bank sends different information in the AEB43 file, so there are several cases to support | 11:57 |
| pokoli | for that reason probably allowing the user to manually select a subgroup is a good idea | 11:57 |
| pokoli | We just need to be able to search by amount and succed amount (like we do for groups) and it will work | 11:58 |
| cedk | pokoli: it can not work if there is no *exact* description of what is in a statement line | 12:12 |
| pokoli | cedk: of course. For this case I'm thinking in a way for the user to select al the payments without the need of enetering one by one (and this is the subgroup) | 12:15 |
| pokoli | so in case we have the identifier on the statement we select the subgroup automatically, if we do not have we allow the user to select it. | 12:16 |
| cedk | pokoli: You can not divide a statement line based on a selection of payments, you do not know what the bank exactly did | 12:17 |
| cedk | for me the AEB43 is not usable as-is to match statement with payment lines | 12:19 |
| cedk | you must use clearing and parse CAMT054 | 12:19 |
| cedk | ex: why divide statement can not work: SEPA message with 2 payments 200€ for Party A and 200€ for Party B | 12:20 |
| cedk | you receive a statement line of 200€ with the ID of the SEPA message group | 12:20 |
| cedk | you can not know which payment has been made | 12:21 |
| pokoli | cedk: Of course, the user will need to manually select this case | 12:25 |
| pokoli | cedk: We found that normally the bank devides the payments following the PaymentInfo that we indicate in the SEPA file | 12:27 |
| pokoli | cedk: I have no problem to make the rule fail for your case. But that should not prevent to match all other cases | 12:28 |
| pokoli | cedk: we do not have CAMT054 format for our bank | 12:34 |
| cedk | pokoli: change bank because it sucks | 12:53 |
| cedk | pokoli: "We found that normally" we can not base design on such assumption | 12:53 |
| pokoli | cedk: probably beter to change country ;-) | 12:53 |
| pokoli | cedk: I mean normally because there is diferent cases, I can number them. | 12:54 |
| pokoli | cedk: but I should consider them as exception and let the user manage that manually | 12:54 |
| cedk | pokoli: "to match all other cases" indeed there is only one possible case, the amount is exactly the total amount of all the payment with the ID | 12:54 |
| cedk | but this is still crazy to think that user will find out of nowhere how to divide random grouped payments | 12:55 |
| pokoli | cedk: We can see on the bank website how the divided the payments | 12:56 |
| cedk | and the only case that works is indeed the same as grouping with the group using clearing | 12:56 |
| cedk | which is much more cleaner considering the poor bank information | 12:56 |
| cedk | pokoli: really change bank, they are stupid and harmful | 12:57 |
| pokoli | cedk: I refused an offer from another bank because I now that they AEB43 file sucks more (they just provide amounts and no other description) | 12:58 |
| pokoli | so it may be worse | 12:58 |
| pokoli | cedk: Altought, if I can change my bank I can not tell all tryton users to change their bank | 12:59 |
| pokoli | cedk: let forget about rules and automation for now. Do you think that storing the subgroups on tryton and allowing the user to select them in statement will be a good addition? | 13:03 |
| pokoli | I can fill a discuss post if you prefer ;-) | 13:03 |
| cedk | pokoli: I guess a topic will be better | 13:09 |
| pokoli | ok, I will create it soon. BTW: thanks for your time on the issue | 13:10 |
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