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| pokoli | cedk: I see CI is failing due to: https://github.com/WhyNotHugo/python-barcode/issues/205 | 12:28 |
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| pokoli | JFYI the problem is already fixed on the source repository | 12:28 |
| cedk | pokoli: Please do not modify my MR without asking my permission | 13:45 |
| pokoli | cedk: which is the issue? AFAIU the Heptapod workflow allows such colaboration | 14:20 |
| cedk | pokoli: I do not want | 14:23 |
| pokoli | cedk: there are so much things that I do not want and I'm forced to deal with... | 14:24 |
| nicoe | pokoli: I think that you should ask before working on the MR of someone else, for example when working on acaubet's MR removing the old migration I asked him if it was OK | 14:37 |
| pokoli | nicoe: ced cleary said that he did not plan to implement it. So I just picked and did it by myself | 14:38 |
| pokoli | It is the same as there is some MR pending for some time that needs some maintainer fix, so we fix and merge it back | 14:38 |
| pokoli | nicoe: TBH, for me the modification of the MR is the less important issue of the discussion | 14:40 |
| pokoli | I'm a litte bit pissed by the fact that we are always asked to fix things that are not our goal but they are requested to improve the software | 14:43 |
| nicoe | I don't know which MR you're talking about, and it's not important. From my pov, you should ask before working on the MR of someone else. Especially when it's someone who's active. | 14:43 |
| pokoli | But when I do some constructive comments to improve the software I get some replies like: "I do not want" | 14:43 |
| pokoli | So If we can not discuss anything, I just act and implement that by myself | 14:43 |
| pokoli | If my contribution are not welcome (nor comments, nor code) then just say it loud and I will stop them | 14:44 |
| pokoli | nicoe: this is the MR https://foss.heptapod.net/tryton/tryton/-/merge_requests/615#note_300247 | 14:45 |
| nicoe | It's not that your contributions are not welcome, it's that you should ask before working on the MR of someone else. | 14:50 |
| nicoe | And if you don't like when someone says "I do not want", you shouldn't do it yourself. This is so childish … | 14:53 |
| pokoli | Yes, everything is so childish | 14:53 |
| nicoe | ACTION has sometimes the impression to be the only adult in the room | 14:53 |
| pokoli | nicoe: to be honest, replies like "I do not want" are not the best replies as do not explain which is the problem | 14:56 |
| pokoli | If it should not be implemented or it is a mather of time | 14:56 |
| pokoli | so If I'm not getting the full information about the problem and how it should be fixed I just can "decide by myself" | 14:57 |
| pokoli | nicoe: at the end, I spent 30 minutes implementing it. I prefer to spent 30 minutes writing code that having useless discussions | 15:01 |
| nicoe | cedk said "Please do not modify my MR without asking my permission", you asked "which is the issue?", he replied "I do not want". The issue is that he doesn't want that (moreover it's not like it was a stalled MR, and for the record I think a new feature in core should have an implementation somewhere, so I kind of agree with you that your commit is a good idea) | 15:02 |
| nicoe | And if he does not want that, that's it period | 15:02 |
| nicoe | It's like asking a friend "Do you want to go hiking?", he says no, you can ask him why and he says "I don't want", that's it end of discussion. | 15:04 |
| nicoe | You don't act on that | 15:04 |
| nicoe | But you can discuss why it's a good idea to go hiking | 15:04 |
| pokoli | nicoe: the only diferent is that I requested something to be implemented in a merge request | 15:04 |
| pokoli | And he replied that he do not want (I'm not sure what he does not want) | 15:05 |
| pokoli | So I implemented it so the request is fixed and he can continue working on other thinks and the MR have been improved | 15:05 |
| pokoli | So I not forced nobody to go hiking nor to write any line of code | 15:06 |
| nicoe | There are two issues: the discussion about your request (which was answered with "not my goal": https://foss.heptapod.net/tryton/tryton/-/merge_requests/615#note_300260) and the fact that you've made change on a MR without asking to the author first. | 15:07 |
| nicoe | The first can only be solved by discussion, the other is just a matter of asking for permission | 15:08 |
| pokoli | nicoe: and the third is: Why I should care about others opinions if they do not respect mine opinion? | 15:10 |
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| pokoli | nicoe: I agree that it will be better to just ask if I can implement that by myself | 15:12 |
| pokoli | But it is clear that I will get a negative reply. And this is something that I can not understand | 15:13 |
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