IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2008-10-24

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Fri Oct 24 00:00:01 CEST 2008
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2008-10-24 00:35 <CIA-57> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 29:84b7505a24a9 currency/currency.py: Use ir.date and format date in error message
2008-10-24 00:49 <CIA-57> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1121:c72695c37c76 trytond/trytond/osv/fields.py:
2008-10-24 00:49 <CIA-57> tryton: Add BigInteger for
2008-10-24 00:49 <CIA-57> tryton: http://groups.google.com/group/tryton/browse_thread/thread/7753c8e3ffc4b14d
2008-10-24 00:53 <CIA-57> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1122:0393be8f0791 trytond/doc/models.rst: Add doc for BigInteger
2008-10-24 01:23 <X0d_of_N0d> anyone here?
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2008-10-24 10:02 <udono> X0d_of_N0d: hi
2008-10-24 11:01 <CIA-57> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 242:66b28d344ea2 account/ (fiscalyear.xml period.xml tax.xml): Add missing ir.model.access
2008-10-24 11:02 <cedk> hi, I would like to know what do you think about this commit: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp/openobject-server/trunk/revision/1192
2008-10-24 11:03 <cedk> I find strange to compute the currency rate based on an average of the previous account move line
2008-10-24 11:04 <cedk> And don't speak about the modularity break and the fact that if it is there is no lines, the rate is strange
2008-10-24 11:06 <cedk> in openerp, the commit is use by this one http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp/openobject-addons/trunk/revision/1709
2008-10-24 11:06 <cedk> udono: timitos is not near you?
2008-10-24 11:26 <CIA-57> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r245 /wiki/Release_1_0_0.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-10-24 11:27 <udono> cedk: timitos is in Holyday, back at 9. November
2008-10-24 11:32 <udono> cedk: I dont understand what they do exactly. May you explain in more detail?
2008-10-24 11:36 <udono> cedk: is currecy_rate the name for exchange rate?
2008-10-24 11:36 <cedk> udono: they use an average rate computed on all the account move line of an account
2008-10-24 11:37 <cedk> udono: yes
2008-10-24 11:37 <cedk> udono: so they don't use the rate of the currency at the date of the move but computed it
2008-10-24 11:38 <cedk> I find this strange but perhaps there is some case where it is usefull
2008-10-24 11:38 <cedk> but any way as I said the way they do it breaks the modularity
2008-10-24 11:38 <udono> cedk: It seems they like to catch or decrease exchangerate loss?
2008-10-24 11:39 <udono> cedk:
2008-10-24 11:39 <cedk> udono: they don't use the date to compute
2008-10-24 11:40 <cedk> what I know for accounting, is that the rate must not be exactly the rate at the date
2008-10-24 11:40 <cedk> but extrapolating a rate seems very strange
2008-10-24 11:41 <udono> they talked about something like this in the forum, pedro mentioned about this in combination with invoice payment and reconciliation, maybe.
2008-10-24 11:41 <cedk> udono: have you a link ?
2008-10-24 11:42 <udono> cedk: I send It to this IRC in our discussion about reconciliation
2008-10-24 11:42 <udono> cedk: do you remember the date?
2008-10-24 11:44 <udono> http://openerp.com/forum/post22643.html#22643
2008-10-24 11:44 <udono> cedk:
2008-10-24 11:45 <udono> Discussion on #tryton at 2008-09-26
2008-10-24 11:46 <udono> cedk: maybe it depends. Who knows?
2008-10-24 11:51 <cedk> udono: I'm not sure, it is different things
2008-10-24 11:55 <udono> cedk: me not sure, too
2008-10-24 11:59 <udono> cedk: but what they do exactly with their implementation? if an account had past rates maybe 1, 0,5, and 3. Then they make a new rate by (1+0,5+3)/3 = 1,5. Then taken this 1,5 as rate vor the new move lines?
2008-10-24 11:59 <udono> s/vor/for
2008-10-24 11:59 <cedk> udono: yes
2008-10-24 12:00 <udono> cedk: its bad design, AFAIS
2008-10-24 12:01 <udono> cedk: better design for me is when using currency there must be an actual rate for the date, or you can not post the move.
2008-10-24 12:02 <cedk> udono: no, you take the last rate you have for this date
2008-10-24 12:03 <cedk> udono: company will not put a rate for each day
2008-10-24 12:07 <udono> cedk: there is no need to put a date for each day, only when you use multy-currency. For me this is the most clean way, and addon modules can solve the problem *to must have* a currency for multy-currency invoice...
2008-10-24 12:08 <cedk> udono: you must have at least one rate but no need to have a rate at the move date
2008-10-24 12:08 <cedk> udono: company can work by puting one rate par week or par month
2008-10-24 12:08 <udono> cedk: ok
2008-10-24 12:11 <udono> cedk: Yours is the more generic solution, I think, because If somone needs daily rates, he can implement as addon...
2008-10-24 12:12 <cedk> udono: yes there is this module from c2c that can be a based for update rate: https://tinyerp.saas-camptocamp.com/trac/tinyerp/wiki/c2c_currency_rate_update
2008-10-24 13:57 <CIA-57> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 259:e86878e32764 stock/inventory.py: Fix typo
2008-10-24 13:57 <CIA-57> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 260:aad333ae16f6 stock/inventory.py: Fix default_company
2008-10-24 13:57 <CIA-57> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 261:20775965e6b5 stock/ (inventory.py inventory.xml):
2008-10-24 13:57 <CIA-57> tryton: Add unit_digits on inventory line to display quantity with the right number of
2008-10-24 13:57 <CIA-57> tryton: digits
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2008-10-24 20:33 <CIA-57> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r246 /wiki/Release_1_0_0.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-10-24 20:33 <CIA-57> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r247 /wiki/Release_1_0_0.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-10-24 20:33 <CIA-57> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r248 /wiki/Release_1_2_0.wiki: Created wiki page through web user interface.
2008-10-24 20:54 <yangoon> after updatin forest extension to tip I get for all repos: skipped: No module named store
2008-10-24 20:54 <yangoon> anyone else?
2008-10-24 20:56 <cedk> yangoon: forest didn't change since 8 months ?
2008-10-24 20:56 <yangoon> cedk: i don't remember well, I updated localbranch as well as forest
2008-10-24 20:57 <cedk> yangoon: I don't use localbranch
2008-10-24 20:57 <yangoon> cedk: but forest:py is from august
2008-10-24 20:59 <yangoon> cedk: localbranch didn't work for me, I only installed it, because you claimed it as only possible variant for branches in HowToContribute
2008-10-24 20:59 <cedk> yangoon: http://hg.akoha.org/hgforest/
2008-10-24 21:01 <cedk> yangoon: on the wiki we don't speak about the extention
2008-10-24 21:01 <cedk> yangoon: but this is confusing, I will remove it
2008-10-24 21:02 <yangoon> cedk: ah ok, that was really confusing. what did you mean by local branches?
2008-10-24 21:03 <cedk> yangoon: just clone of the repository
2008-10-24 21:03 <yangoon> cedk: ok, but that's indeed not a branch
2008-10-24 21:04 <cedk> yangoon: each clone of a repository is a branch
2008-10-24 21:05 <cedk> http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/Branch?highlight=%28branch%29
2008-10-24 21:05 <yangoon> cedk: I don't think in the sense of classical branching, also in mercurial
2008-10-24 21:06 <yangoon> cedk: ok, they name it named branches
2008-10-24 21:07 <cedk> yangoon: no I speak about the point 1 not the point2
2008-10-24 21:07 <cedk> yangoon: we don't want point 2
2008-10-24 21:07 <yangoon> cedk: yes I know
2008-10-24 21:08 <yangoon> cedk: I am nevertheless curious about my corrupt forest
2008-10-24 21:09 <yangoon> cedk: why do I have forest.py from 21.08.08, when last update was on january?
2008-10-24 21:10 <cedk> yangoon: it is the date when you checkout it, I suppose
2008-10-24 21:10 <yangoon> I checked out before 5 min
2008-10-24 21:11 <yangoon> cedk: no, I updated before 5 min, for checkout you are correct
2008-10-24 21:12 <cedk> yangoon: I suppose the error is in localbranch, and as you don't use it, remove it
2008-10-24 21:12 <yangoon> cedk: will do
2008-10-24 21:13 <yangoon> cedk: ok, works again, thx!
2008-10-24 21:22 <CIA-57> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r249 /wiki/HowtoContribute.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2008-10-24 21:38 <CIA-57> tryton: matb roundup * #448/field attribute group_name is not translated: [new] For example: Accounting Properties and Stock Properties on tab Properties on Party or Product (located in in modules account, acccount_invoi ...
2008-10-24 21:44 <yangoon> [Fri Oct 24 21:40:53 2008] INFO:init:module:workflow:creating or updating database tables
2008-10-24 21:44 <yangoon> [Fri Oct 24 21:40:53 2008] WARNING:init:Unable to migrate column action on table wkf_activity from varchar to text.
2008-10-24 21:44 <yangoon> [Fri Oct 24 21:40:54 2008] INFO:init:module:workflow:creating or updating wizards
2008-10-24 21:44 <yangoon> [Fri Oct 24 21:40:54 2008] INFO:init:module:workflow:loading workflow.xml
2008-10-24 21:45 <yangoon> cedk: see above on a new database
2008-10-24 21:45 <yangoon> I don't think that should happen on a fresh install?
2008-10-24 21:48 <CIA-57> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1123:ef0c8bf78399 trytond/trytond/init.sql: Change action on wkf_activity into text
2008-10-24 21:49 <cedk> yangoon: this is fixed
2008-10-24 21:49 <yangoon> cedk: great
2008-10-24 21:53 <yangoon> cedk: BTW: Why couldn't the type be changed? text is bigger than var char, so it should be possible anyway?
2008-10-24 21:53 <cedk> yangoon: because the code is not written :-)
2008-10-24 21:53 <yangoon> cedk: :D
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