IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2008-10-28 #tryton log beginning Tue Oct 28 00:00:01 CET 2008
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2008-10-28 01:15 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #455/Translation: Tips in client are untranslated: [new] Tips in client are untranslated.
2008-10-28 01:23 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [new] Access via <Alt>-keys to the menu works, but it doesn't work in the dropdown menus, that are opened this way.
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2008-10-28 07:47 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [chatting] For me it works. But with some flaws. I need to release the alt key, when Iam in a popup menu. E.g. Press alt-F to open the file menu, ...
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2008-10-28 08:17 <lordvan> hi
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2008-10-28 08:32 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #455/Translation: Tips in client are untranslated: [chatting] The translated tips need to be stored in a new file e.g. share/tryton/tipoftheday.de_DE.txt for german translation.
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2008-10-28 09:22 <udono> lordvan: hi
2008-10-28 09:26 <lordvan> hey
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2008-10-28 10:04 <udono> cedk: hi, any news about documentation framework for tryton?
2008-10-28 10:06 <cedk> udono: bechamel commit documentation for stock and stock_supply module
2008-10-28 10:06 <cedk> udono: but it is not easy to make a wiki like application
2008-10-28 10:06 <cedk> I think about using intuxucation perhaps
2008-10-28 10:19 <udono> cedk: I find your idea with gettext translations of every paragraph quite good. So we can have a single reference document in english language, which is translated into different languages...
2008-10-28 10:20 <udono> cedk: but the sphinx doesnt provide a framework for this...
2008-10-28 10:21 <cedk> udono: i think we can write a script for that
2008-10-28 10:21 <udono> cedk: I read that with sphinx 0.5 the UI will be translatable, but this doesnt include a framwork for content translations...
2008-10-28 10:22 <cedk> udono: I don't think that there is any wiki-like framework that handle this feature
2008-10-28 10:24 <udono> cedk: dont know. For me it is already wiki-like, since I edit the rst and bundle it and send you the patch... I dont know if we need this much more wiki function?!
2008-10-28 10:24 <cedk> udono: we can create repository on intuxication with xxx_doc like for translation
2008-10-28 10:26 <udono> cedk: yes, but the gettext method has the advantage, that you can see if the source changed
2008-10-28 10:27 <udono> cedk: another idea: but we can provide a simple wiki like edit function for all rst:
2008-10-28 10:31 <cedk> udono: it is just to show the source
2008-10-28 10:31 <cedk> udono: not editing it
2008-10-28 10:36 <udono> cedk: As I read, its for editing in an external application.
2008-10-28 10:37 <udono> cedk: This way i could edit my notes with a single click from my browser.(i'm using konqueror, by default clicking a text link opens gvim, fromwhich i can rebuild the site with a custom command)""
2008-10-28 10:37 <udono> cited from above link
2008-10-28 10:53 <lordvan> what's sphinx?
2008-10-28 10:59 <udono> lordvan:
2008-10-28 11:05 <lordvan> i used epydoc before ;)
2008-10-28 11:05 <lordvan> doxygen like
2008-10-28 11:05 <lordvan> makes quite nice api docs
2008-10-28 11:06 <cedk> lordvan: it is the new tools for python doc
2008-10-28 11:07 <lordvan> or
2008-10-28 11:07 <lordvan> ^_^
2008-10-28 11:07 <lordvan> hmm well i didn't do a lot of python api doc recently ..
2008-10-28 11:07 <lordvan> just made some small tools ..
2008-10-28 11:09 <cedk> lordvan: one advantage of sphinx, we find is that the text source is readable
2008-10-28 11:10 <lordvan> well i didn't really look at it yet just was wondering what you were talking about :)
2008-10-28 11:10 <lordvan> i found epydoc quite ok
2008-10-28 11:10 <cedk> we will use it for user documentation about modules
2008-10-28 11:11 <lordvan> ah
2008-10-28 11:14 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [resolved] Seems to work as udono says. So I close the issue.
2008-10-28 11:15 <cedk> udono: for the issue 455
2008-10-28 11:15 <cedk> I suggest to remove the tipoftheday.txt file
2008-10-28 11:15 <cedk> and put all in the and use gettext for translation
2008-10-28 11:15 <cedk> udono: what do you think ?
2008-10-28 11:27 <cedk> I do it, like that the translation process is more simple
2008-10-28 11:28 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 887:569877c12a0c tryton/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
2008-10-28 11:28 <CIA-58> tryton: Remove tipoftheday.txt and put it in
2008-10-28 11:28 <CIA-58> tryton: It will simplify the translation process
2008-10-28 11:29 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #455/Translation: Tips in client are untranslated: [chatting] Changeset 569877c12a0c put the translation of tips in the po/mo
2008-10-28 11:44 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 888:d901eb29801e tryton/tryton/gui/window/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Don't set page_size on Adjustment for use for a simple scalar value
2008-10-28 11:44 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 889:0e40b8cc9c27 tryton/tryton/gui/window/view_form/view/form_gtk/ Add some spacing on DateTime widget
2008-10-28 11:44 <udono> cedk: good idea
2008-10-28 11:45 <udono> cedk: maybe an external with just a dictionary, list, string or something could be better design
2008-10-28 11:46 <cedk> udono: why?
2008-10-28 11:49 <udono> cedk: just to separate data and code...
2008-10-28 11:49 <udono> cedk: in the long run we may have a lot of tips I hope ;-)
2008-10-28 11:50 <cedk> udono: but the data is on top of the code
2008-10-28 11:51 <udono> cedk: its not this important for me, just an idea
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2008-10-28 11:53 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [chatting] Sorry, but I wouldn't close like that, because it is unexpected behaviour. Every application I know works with ALT key pressed. I suppo ...
2008-10-28 12:07 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 890:116ace6be594 tryton/tryton/common/ Set editable and sensitive on error dialog popup
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2008-10-28 12:26 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: It seems to be the normal behavior for gtk menu. I try it on ekiga and it works like tryton.
2008-10-28 12:52 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [resolved] claws mail works also like tryton So it really seems to be the standard way.
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2008-10-28 13:01 <udono> cedk: I dislike th chaos on
2008-10-28 13:02 <udono> cedk: since it is the official repository for addon modules, there are just old/broken and devel/translation modules over there
2008-10-28 13:03 <udono> cedk: do you think its possible to use this repository just for real addon modules, which are in a "working" state?
2008-10-28 13:14 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #457/Editing documentation files from browser: [new] S. a.
2008-10-28 13:19 <yangoon> udono: cedk: there is a problem with the % sign in tip text, when compiling catalog:
2008-10-28 13:19 <yangoon> error: share/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/tryton.po:1419: Python parameter % o not found in translation
2008-10-28 13:20 <yangoon> udono: cedk: do you want to mask the percent sign or simply replace it with text percent?
2008-10-28 13:42 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: [chatting] I googled upon this, but I didn't find a solution. Even the gtk-demo Application Main Window and UI Manager reacting like described her ...
2008-10-28 13:43 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: You may request on the pygtk or gtk mailinglist for this issue?!
2008-10-28 13:44 <udono> yangoon: dont know, if % makes problem, then there will be problems with other letters, too, I think
2008-10-28 13:45 <yangoon> udono: hmm, it is just the sign for parameter, so this is really special
2008-10-28 13:48 <yangoon> udono: I cannot find anywhere in babel docu how to mask the % sign
2008-10-28 13:50 <CIA-58> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 159:d13a5f79f45f website/ (html_incl/map-html.t2t map.js screen.css services.t2t): Added box around map, added location for Sednacom, added support for b2ck.
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2008-10-28 14:00 <udono_> yangoon: did you solve?
2008-10-28 14:00 <udono_> yangoon: try %%
2008-10-28 14:00 <yangoon> udono_: tried already this
2008-10-28 14:00 <yangoon> and '%'
2008-10-28 14:00 <yangoon> but doesn't help
2008-10-28 14:01 <yangoon> I just replaced % by percent and then it compiles
2008-10-28 14:01 <yangoon> udono_: so as a quick fix for this very special case this could be enough IMHO
2008-10-28 14:03 <yangoon> but nevertheless client doesn't show translation of tips, but they are in mo file
2008-10-28 14:05 <yangoon> udono_: cedk: there seems to be another issue with translation of tips: translation is not shown even with correct compiled mo file
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2008-10-28 14:20 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #456/Client: shortcuts don't work in dropdown menus: On 28/10/08 13:42 +0100, Udono wrote: > > Udono <> added the comment: > > I googled upon this, but I didn't find a solution. > Even ...
2008-10-28 14:27 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: [new] After applying percent.patch to avoid compile problems, translations of tips are nevertheless not shown. I join patch and resulting mo file ...
2008-10-28 14:28 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 891:eee44168270b tryton/tryton/gui/window/ Make tips translated at each call of dialog
2008-10-28 14:29 <CIA-58> tryton: Mathias Behrle <> default * 892:6324e476e37c tryton/tryton/gui/window/ Changed percent sign in tip to text to avoid compile problems with babel
2008-10-28 14:31 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: [resolved] Applied And changeset eee44168270b must fix
2008-10-28 14:42 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #459/IntegrityError on database update: [new] Shouldn't this rather be an error message than a unrecoverable error? I think that in other cases with null values in already existing reco ...
2008-10-28 14:42 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #460/About [new] is mentioned on the download page as an external repository for more modules. But for now it is a p ...
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2008-10-28 14:47 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #460/About [chatting] Supporting this wish: Best IMHO would be to have even subdirectories under tryton for i.e. translation to keep those modules, that basi ...
2008-10-28 14:58 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: [new] I like to provide menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions. My goal is to make the client completely keyboard dr ...
2008-10-28 15:01 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: [chatting] Not completely fixed: One tip is not translated, it is the one containing special characters /ˈtraɪtən/, or as in Greek Τρίτων ...
2008-10-28 15:10 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: [chatting] +++ Tabs inside forms +++ Using pageup and pagedown: No modifier key: next/previous record Ctrl modifier key: next/previous application ...
2008-10-28 15:15 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: +++ Shortcuts for 'reset default' and 'set as default' +++ For the current field: New F7 reset default New F8 set as default
2008-10-28 15:23 <yangoon> udono_: Isn't 176 solved now? I think you can close it.
2008-10-28 15:25 <yangoon> udono_: And doesn't 461 supersede 244? So 244 could be closed.
2008-10-28 15:33 <CIA-58> tryton: * r253 /wiki/ Put command line in one line
2008-10-28 15:43 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: +++ Cleanup menu access keys +++ All Keys are called with Alt modifier... Form > _Delete to D_elete (memory hook :E:rase) why: lap _Dupli ...
2008-10-28 15:46 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #459/IntegrityError on database update: [resolved] Just drop the columns
2008-10-28 15:47 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: +++ Requests +++ New Shift-Ctrl-s Send a Request New Shift-Ctrl-r Read my Requests for memory: Ctrl-s is Save Record Ctrl-r is Reload Record
2008-10-28 15:51 <udono_> yangoon: thanks, I closed 176
2008-10-28 15:52 <udono_> yangoon: but 244 is another approach, there will the shortcuts be user definable... in 461 I try to predefine them
2008-10-28 15:52 <udono_> yangoon: and all comments for Issue 461 are welcome...
2008-10-28 15:54 <udono_> @all: What do you think about the structure for the client documentation described in ? Should I start to write?
2008-10-28 15:57 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #440/tryton/tryton/common/ Warning: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed win.destroy(): [resolved] I think I identified this Bug:
2008-10-28 16:04 <udono_> cedk: before some month, you told me about a kind of macro-recorder for gtk. Do you remember the name?
2008-10-28 16:06 <cedk> udono_: gtklogger
2008-10-28 16:07 <lordvan> cya
2008-10-28 16:09 <udono_> cedk: thanks
2008-10-28 16:11 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 893:4113ee067842 tryton/tryton/gui/window/ Remove unused translation
2008-10-28 16:11 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 894:abd2683569da tryton/tryton/ Improve translation for gettext environment
2008-10-28 16:13 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #460/About Repositories will always be development. For release, we will use pypi, so I don't see any problems
2008-10-28 16:14 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: [testing] I suppose that it is a bug in gettext as other tip works. So we need perhaps to remove the Greek chars.
2008-10-28 16:35 <udono_> cedk: do you have reasons recomending gtklogger instead of pyusecase?
2008-10-28 16:36 <cedk> udono_: no
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2008-10-28 16:38 <CIA-58> tryton: udono roundup * #460/About [resolved] Ced you are right. But it would not so bad to have later on release an distinction between releases and development repositories on the ...
2008-10-28 17:47 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 895:a6ec2addcc50 tryton/tryton/gui/window/view_form/ (view/form_gtk/ widget_search/ Add missing import of gettext
2008-10-28 17:55 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 160:d9fb8bbf209e website/downloads.t2t: Seprate development from release
2008-10-28 17:55 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 161:1fd0e5eb8839 website/screen.css: Remove floatright green
2008-10-28 18:59 <udono_> cedk: I checked out gtklogger and pyusecase, both looking very good. But both needs massive client implementations...
2008-10-28 19:04 <CIA-58> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 162:c1f9fe6d0e47 website/ (map.js services.t2t): Added Virtual Things on services
2008-10-28 19:14 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: It is really weird. After removing greek chars the result is, that _no_ tip is translated. Joining newest po file, that looks perfect AFAIS.
2008-10-28 19:38 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 163:af673745cb34 website/ (html_incl/config-html.t2t screen.css services.t2t):
2008-10-28 19:38 <CIA-58> tryton: Add link on services
2008-10-28 19:38 <CIA-58> tryton: Add B2CK macro
2008-10-28 19:41 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: Don't understand, nothing is translated ?
2008-10-28 19:45 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #458/Client: translation of tips is not shown: No tip is shown translated any more (eben not the ones, that worked before) with latest update (tip;) from and tryton.po joined to this ...
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2008-10-28 21:11 <CIA-58> tryton: matb roundup * #462/add new section for payment terms: [new] Add separator in party/accounting, since payment terms don't belong to vat. Serves for better display in addon modules, too. patch attached
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2008-10-28 21:50 <dbrenck> hi
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2008-10-28 22:00 <dbrenck> ping?
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