IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2008-12-02 #tryton log beginning Tue Dec 2 00:00:01 CET 2008
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2008-12-02 10:02 <Timitos> cedk: hi
2008-12-02 10:02 <udono> Timitos: cedk hi
2008-12-02 10:04 <cedk> hi
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2008-12-02 10:05 <Timitos> cedk: i would like to talk about some issues i have on my list for accounting und i think we should try to find some solution together
2008-12-02 10:05 <udono> cedk: I have another topic about Taxes in Belgium...
2008-12-02 10:05 <cedk> ok
2008-12-02 10:06 <udono> Who starts?
2008-12-02 10:06 <udono> me
2008-12-02 10:06 <Timitos> udono: ok
2008-12-02 10:07 <udono> cedk: Just a question, did you have some increasing of VAT in Belgium in the last years?
2008-12-02 10:07 <udono> ced: that means did the government increase VAT?
2008-12-02 10:08 <cedk> udono: I don't think so
2008-12-02 10:08 <udono> cedk: how is VAT called in Belgium and which percentage it has?
2008-12-02 10:09 <cedk> udono: there is different rate but generally it is 21%
2008-12-02 10:10 <udono> cedk: and how do you call VAT in Begium (Netherlands have BTW hoog and BTW laag)
2008-12-02 10:10 <cedk> TVA in french
2008-12-02 10:11 <udono> cedk: ok, thanks. That's all from my side
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2008-12-02 10:12 <Timitos> cedk: i want to talk about intra-Community acquisition of a good.
2008-12-02 10:12 <Timitos> there is some issue with taxes
2008-12-02 10:12 <Timitos> i don´t know it this is the same in other countries.
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2008-12-02 10:13 <Timitos> but in germany in this case you have to tax moves in this case
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2008-12-02 10:13 <Timitos> and i don´t know how to handle this in tryton
2008-12-02 10:14 <cedk> Timitos: don't understand
2008-12-02 10:14 <Timitos> cedk: i try to explain
2008-12-02 10:14 <udono> cedk: s/to tax moves/two tax moves/
2008-12-02 10:15 <cedk> so put two taxes on the sale order line
2008-12-02 10:16 <Timitos> cedk: yes but the sum of the taxes need to be 0. so the taxes need to be on different sides of the move
2008-12-02 10:16 <Timitos> i have some problems to explain this in english
2008-12-02 10:17 <cedk> Timitos: or create a tax with the negative value
2008-12-02 10:17 <Timitos> cedk: this is possible now? or is there some customiziation needed?
2008-12-02 10:18 <cedk> Timitos: I think it is possible, I don't test it
2008-12-02 10:19 <Timitos> cedk: the move needs to look like this:
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2008-12-02 10:19 <udono> cedk: is it the "invoice Tax Sign" what you mean?
2008-12-02 10:20 <Timitos> udono: no invoice tax sign only has effect on tax code computation but not tax moves
2008-12-02 10:21 <udono> Timitos: yes, I thought so.
2008-12-02 10:21 <Timitos> ACTION is testing for a moment
2008-12-02 10:22 <udono> cedk: or is it the possibility to save negative Percentages?
2008-12-02 10:22 <cedk> Timitos: it is working
2008-12-02 10:22 <cedk> udono: yes
2008-12-02 10:23 <udono> cedk: yes to negative percentage?
2008-12-02 10:23 <cedk> udono: yes
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2008-12-02 10:26 <Timitos> cedk: i tried but the move line with the negativ tax got no tax line related
2008-12-02 10:27 <Timitos> cedk: stop. i found my mistake
2008-12-02 10:28 <cedk> sombody know a nopaste service for binary?
2008-12-02 10:29 <Timitos> cedk: you mentioned this last time
2008-12-02 10:29 <cedk> Timitos:
2008-12-02 10:30 <cedk> I create a tax with two child, one positive and the other one negative
2008-12-02 10:30 <cedk> and I set this tax on the "Product 1"
2008-12-02 10:30 <Timitos> cedk: thx. yes this is the solution.
2008-12-02 10:31 <Timitos> cedk: next topic:
2008-12-02 10:31 <Timitos> i think it would be great to print general ledger and trial balance only with accounts that have moves on it
2008-12-02 10:33 <cedk> Timitos: it is just a wish :-)
2008-12-02 10:33 <udono> cedk: its like a "skip empty accounts" checkbox...
2008-12-02 10:33 <cedk> you put alread on the bugtracker
2008-12-02 10:33 <Timitos> cedk: :-D perhaps i forgot
2008-12-02 10:34 <cedk>
2008-12-02 10:35 <Timitos> cedk: next one: there is still some incompatibility between modules account_invoice and account_statement
2008-12-02 10:35 <Timitos> the workflow action pay invoice must not be used if account statement is installed
2008-12-02 10:36 <Timitos> i think this is a very important issue.
2008-12-02 10:36 <cedk> Timitos: for me, it is a mistake of the user, if he encode twice
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2008-12-02 10:37 <Cristi> hi
2008-12-02 10:37 <Timitos> cedk: i see some danger if two different users are working with this modules
2008-12-02 10:37 <Timitos> cedk: perhaps this can be avioded by access rights on the workflow action?
2008-12-02 10:38 <cedk> Timitos: it is not a workflow action
2008-12-02 10:38 <Cristi> i sked last time but did not has luck in getting an answer : may tryton be used as an application framework or mostly as an erp ?
2008-12-02 10:39 <udono> Cristi: hi, can we handle your question later? Now we are talking about accounting.
2008-12-02 10:39 <Cristi> sure
2008-12-02 10:39 <udono> Cristi: see
2008-12-02 10:40 <cedk> Timitos: but it is not difficult to write a module that remove the pay button
2008-12-02 10:40 <Cristi> ok i see thx for pointing this out
2008-12-02 10:40 <Timitos> cedk: ok. so i will do. i think that we should not leave this issue to the user
2008-12-02 10:40 <cedk> and making this in the statement module will break the modularity, because statement doesn't require account_invoice
2008-12-02 10:41 <Timitos> cedk: ok
2008-12-02 10:41 <cedk> and I think we should make a module account_statement_invoice to be able to reconcile invoice with statement line
2008-12-02 10:41 <Timitos> cedk: yes. i think we talked about that earlier this year
2008-12-02 10:43 <Timitos> cedk: will you do this module or should we try to do this?
2008-12-02 10:43 <cedk> we could remove the button, when account_statement_invoice will be installed
2008-12-02 10:44 <Timitos> cedk: sounds good for me
2008-12-02 10:45 <Cristi> just one question since you talk about accounting : what is the system you adopt here account note are generated in rea time for eaach document or there is a generate account notes on the end of the month ?
2008-12-02 10:45 <cedk> or is it logical to make account_statement depends of the invoice ?
2008-12-02 10:46 <cedk> Cristi: I don't know what is "account note" ?
2008-12-02 10:46 <udono> cedk: This is a general question on modularity: the open endings...
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2008-12-02 10:46 <Timitos> cedk: for me there is no need of account_statement without account_invoice
2008-12-02 10:47 <cedk> hi, they remove my name from OpenERP:
2008-12-02 10:47 <Cristi> account statements..i guess do not knwo the righ english work
2008-12-02 10:48 <udono> cedk: statements are about the real monetary flow. That's paying and earning. So it depends on invoice I think....
2008-12-02 10:48 <Timitos> cedk: the only argument for account_statement without account_invoice would be an accounting only profile
2008-12-02 10:48 <cedk> udono: but you are not force to create invoices
2008-12-02 10:49 <cedk> Timitos: yes, that what I was thinking
2008-12-02 10:49 <udono> Timitos: you are right
2008-12-02 10:49 <cedk> but it is not really a problem to have invoice for accounting only profile
2008-12-02 10:49 <Cristi> i have like 5 years exp in romania with accountign programs if i know the subject maybe i can help :)
2008-12-02 10:50 <Timitos> Cristi: i still don´t understand exactly what you mean. if you confirm an invoice there is created an move in accounting in real time
2008-12-02 10:50 <Cristi> ok thx.
2008-12-02 10:51 <Timitos> cedk: i don´t think that anybody would use tryton for accounting only
2008-12-02 10:51 <Cristi> w8
2008-12-02 10:51 <Cristi> it is possible to do that
2008-12-02 10:51 <cedk> Timitos: :-)
2008-12-02 10:52 <udono> Cristi: account statement is to bring your Bankstatements in reconciliation with your accounting, for legal affairs.
2008-12-02 10:52 <cedk> bechamel: what do you think between puting invoice stuff in account_statement or make two modules account_statement and account_statement_invoice
2008-12-02 10:52 <Timitos> cedk: tryton has its strengh because of its integration between accounting and other processes. this is the aim of an erp. not accounting only
2008-12-02 10:53 <cedk> udono: in fact, it can be also used for cash
2008-12-02 10:53 <udono> ced: yes, you are right.
2008-12-02 10:54 <udono> cedk: Cristi: with statement you can handle your "cashbook", too
2008-12-02 10:54 <Cristi> account statement is all the moves that were done for a certain account in a period specified
2008-12-02 10:54 <Cristi> that is what i know :)
2008-12-02 10:55 <udono> Cristi: when we say "Statement" we mean "Bank Statement"
2008-12-02 10:55 <Timitos> Cristi: in tryton the module account statement is used for encoding moves that have to do with payments. statement is meant as an bank statement and not as an accouting statement here. so the use of the term is different to this what you mena.
2008-12-02 10:56 <Cristi> tell me if i interrupt you from you discussions....
2008-12-02 10:56 <udono> Cristi: What you mean is called "General Ledger" or "General Journal"
2008-12-02 10:56 <Cristi> i can ask my questiona other time
2008-12-02 10:57 <Timitos> cedk: what shall we do? i think we should put the dependency of account_invoice to the module account_statement
2008-12-02 10:57 <cedk> Timitos: yes, I agree
2008-12-02 10:57 <udono> Timitos: cedk me, too
2008-12-02 10:58 <Timitos> cedk: so we can remove the button "pay invoice" when account_statement is installed
2008-12-02 10:58 <cedk> Timitos: as this dependecy, just make that you need to create invoice sequence in fiscalyear
2008-12-02 10:58 <cedk> Timitos: yes
2008-12-02 10:59 <Timitos> cedk: we already create invoice sequence in fiscal year i think
2008-12-02 10:59 <cedk> Timitos: yes, but for a accounting only profile with statment that doesn't want to use invoice
2008-12-02 11:00 <cedk> Timitos: it is the only things that changes
2008-12-02 11:01 <udono> cedk: For me the creation of the sequences needs to be handled in the setup of account_incoice...
2008-12-02 11:01 <Timitos> cedk: ok yes. but i think this is ok because why should somebody create invoices with another application as he can use the great openoffice integration of tryton :-D
2008-12-02 11:01 <cedk> Timitos: :-)
2008-12-02 11:02 <cedk> udono: sequence are linked to the fiscalyear
2008-12-02 11:02 <udono> cedk: The same with fiscal year and account. This will make Tryton very easy to deploy.
2008-12-02 11:03 <cedk> udono: don't understand
2008-12-02 11:03 <udono> cedk: The only things needed to be explained for now are: Create Fiscal year, periods and Sequences... everything else is very comfortable for me....
2008-12-02 11:04 <cedk> udono: you mean create a wizard that ask you questions about the fiscalyear ?
2008-12-02 11:04 <udono> cedk: yes.
2008-12-02 11:05 <udono> cedk: and additional periods and sequences
2008-12-02 11:06 <cedk> udono: but it is not easy, as you can have one sequence for every invoices
2008-12-02 11:06 <cedk> udono: or one for customer invoice and an other for supplier
2008-12-02 11:06 <cedk> udono: or even one sequence per periods
2008-12-02 11:06 <cedk> udono: etc...
2008-12-02 11:07 <Cristi> what is the bank account number in you countries ?
2008-12-02 11:07 <cedk> udono: but we can add a config wizard with just the form of fiscalyear
2008-12-02 11:07 <cedk> Cristi: ???
2008-12-02 11:08 <Cristi> well it seems like my accounting english is not very up to date..i will aquire a dictionary
2008-12-02 11:09 <cedk> Cristi: in Europe, there is the IBAN
2008-12-02 11:09 <Cristi> :)
2008-12-02 11:09 <Cristi> accounting pint of view
2008-12-02 11:09 <Cristi> here is 512
2008-12-02 11:10 <udono> cedk: you are right, its very flexible. But on first install of accounting module you need to set a fiscal year, so I would mention it with the full form of fiscalyear.
2008-12-02 11:10 <Timitos> Cristi: you mean the code of the account that is used for bank. this would be the right term
2008-12-02 11:10 <Cristi> yes
2008-12-02 11:10 <Cristi> just to find out if we use the same account codes
2008-12-02 11:11 <cedk> udono: ok
2008-12-02 11:11 <udono> Cristi: The "bank number" where I can transfer you money.
2008-12-02 11:11 <Timitos> Cristi: there are many account charts in germany. and every account chart uses another code. so even in our germany there are many differences about that.
2008-12-02 11:11 <udono> Cristi: sorry, last post was wrong...
2008-12-02 11:11 <Cristi>
2008-12-02 11:11 <udono> Cristi: last post of me...
2008-12-02 11:12 <Timitos> Cristi: but you can create your own account chart easily for tryton
2008-12-02 11:12 <Cristi> that is what i intent to do
2008-12-02 11:12 <Timitos> udono: can we finish the topic and go to the next one?
2008-12-02 11:13 <cedk> Timitos: is there other stuffs?
2008-12-02 11:13 <Timitos> cedk: yes.
2008-12-02 11:13 <udono> Timitos: yes
2008-12-02 11:13 <Timitos> cedk: i want to ask you about the topic cash discout or drawback as we used this term earlier
2008-12-02 11:14 <Timitos> cedk: i am looking about the right place to implement this function
2008-12-02 11:14 <Timitos> i think that the payment terms would be a good place to define this. but i am not sure if you will agree
2008-12-02 11:16 <Timitos> Cristi: you can look a this module. this is a german account chart module: hope this will be helpful for you
2008-12-02 11:16 <cedk> Timitos: I'm not sure, because you will need to put a account to create the move to balance payment
2008-12-02 11:16 <cedk> and payment term are not linked to a company
2008-12-02 11:16 <cedk> I think it is perhaps better to create a new object, that is linked to the company
2008-12-02 11:16 <cedk> and define the rule for cash payment and early payment
2008-12-02 11:17 <Timitos> cedk: ok. it is a little bit like the taxes as they are defined for company and have an account and some variables for computing.
2008-12-02 11:18 <Cristi> account_de.xml ?
2008-12-02 11:18 <cedk> Timitos: yes
2008-12-02 11:18 <Cristi> Timitos i would like to import the romania chart of accounts.
2008-12-02 11:18 <Timitos> cedk: but i am not sure if there will be some conflicts then with payment term then
2008-12-02 11:19 <Timitos> Cristi: you need all the files to create your own romania account chart module. but yes the main file is the account_de.xml
2008-12-02 11:19 <udono> Timitos: maybe just overwrite or extend payment terms?
2008-12-02 11:20 <cedk> Timitos: if you express all with percentage, I don't think it will be a problem
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2008-12-02 11:21 <Timitos> cedk: ok
2008-12-02 11:22 <CIA-54> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 1315:05b40f006546 trytond/doc/ ( index.rst models.rst modules.rst views.rst): Improve doc meta-data
2008-12-02 11:22 <Timitos> cedk: so i will work out some more about this topic and i will show you in some days
2008-12-02 11:22 <udono> afk
2008-12-02 11:23 <cedk> Timitos: ok
2008-12-02 11:24 <CIA-54> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 1078:fa4a251bbda2 tryton/doc/usage.rst: Added tocdepth directive
2008-12-02 11:25 <Timitos> cedk: there is only one question for now. will you be able to do the changes to account_statement this year? should i do this?
2008-12-02 11:27 <cedk> Timitos: normally next week
2008-12-02 11:27 <Timitos> cedk: great
2008-12-02 11:28 <cedk> Timitos: other stuffs?
2008-12-02 11:29 <Timitos> cedk: how should i start with the cash discount topic? i would like to create a module for integration in the main distribution if this is ok for you. i know you need really good code for that.
2008-12-02 11:29 <Timitos> cedk: No. No other stuff for tody.
2008-12-02 11:29 <Cristi> thre are...:) do not forget that i have a set of ? :)
2008-12-02 11:30 <cedk> Timitos: first, I suggest that you define (no need to code) which model do you want to use and how they work together
2008-12-02 11:30 <Cristi> but did not wanted to disturb you guys
2008-12-02 11:31 <cedk> So I have one stuff for accounting :-)
2008-12-02 11:31 <cedk> Timitos: it is about you issue with account chart changing each year
2008-12-02 11:33 <Timitos> cedK:
2008-12-02 11:33 <Timitos> on the phone
2008-12-02 11:35 <Timitos> cedk: ok. i will define the models and how they work together
2008-12-02 11:35 <cedk> Timitos: so for the update of accounts
2008-12-02 11:35 <Timitos> cedk: what do you want to know or say about changing account chart each year?
2008-12-02 11:35 <Timitos> :-)
2008-12-02 11:35 <cedk> Timitos: first do you have the list of possible changes
2008-12-02 11:37 <Timitos> cedk: not yet. the problem is that the account chart has some more functions than tryton has in the moment. as we are planning an export to the other application we need to take care of these functions too.
2008-12-02 11:37 <Timitos> cedk: but the main changes are...
2008-12-02 11:37 <cedk> for me what can change is: name, code, parent, kind, type
2008-12-02 11:38 <Timitos> cedk: perhaps reconcile too
2008-12-02 11:38 <udono> cedk: we can create a list of past changes. But the chart of accounts depends hardly on governmental laws, so we can not exactly imagine what happens next...
2008-12-02 11:39 <cedk> udono: but we must handle change that can be set in Tryton :-)
2008-12-02 11:39 <cedk> so I think about this issue and I come to the conclusion that:
2008-12-02 11:39 <Timitos> cedk: there is an issue for this account chart with taxes. in the account chart there are accounts that have automatic tax. if you make a move on them only this tax is allowed to be used in tryton.
2008-12-02 11:40 <cedk> we must keep a kind of history on the account
2008-12-02 11:40 <Timitos> cedk: so we need something like "allowed tax" on the account.
2008-12-02 11:40 <udono> Timitos: +1
2008-12-02 11:41 <Timitos> cedk: what will be the identifier for the account for the user then if code changes.
2008-12-02 11:41 <cedk> Timitos: that is a customization for extra module
2008-12-02 11:41 <cedk> so by history, I mean that we must keep the change in the past and for the futur on the account
2008-12-02 11:42 <cedk> and change the read to use this new values for a date
2008-12-02 11:42 <cedk> like that there is no problem for change in account
2008-12-02 11:42 <Timitos> cedk: the date must be a start of a period or a fiscal year ithink
2008-12-02 11:42 <cedk> if we keep a link between the model and the account, we can synchronize it
2008-12-02 11:43 <cedk> Timitos: no, we make it general
2008-12-02 11:43 <cedk> and we can do the same for taxes
2008-12-02 11:43 <Timitos> cedk: so how will it work?
2008-12-02 11:43 <cedk> as the value can change over the time
2008-12-02 11:43 <cedk> Timitos: it will be just a list of date, field, value
2008-12-02 11:45 <cedk> and the object return the right value depending of the current date or of the fiscalyear in the context
2008-12-02 11:45 <Timitos> cedk: i am not sure if this is the right way to solve this problem. i think you need some more information from us.
2008-12-02 11:46 <cedk> so like that account chart module will be always the same, you just have to put the change in it each year and the user update the module and synchronize his account chart
2008-12-02 11:46 <udono> cedk: This sounds interesting...
2008-12-02 11:46 <cedk> Timitos: for me, I think it is wrong to create a account chart for each year
2008-12-02 11:48 <Timitos> cedk: yes. the structure of tryton is not made for this. but i am not sure if the approach you try will really work.
2008-12-02 11:49 <Timitos> cedk: but i think you are right.
2008-12-02 11:49 <yangoon> Timitos: why do you think it doesn't work?
2008-12-02 11:50 <Timitos> cedk: yangoon: forget it. i trust in cedk. it will work!
2008-12-02 11:50 <yangoon> if there will be a function to return an account dependent from a time, I think it should work
2008-12-02 11:50 <udono> cedk: I only know one case where to create a completely new account chart: It is when you change the chart from SKR03 to SKR04 or vice versa. But afaik no software is able to handle this without starting a new database. But if the history function works as you described, than it could be possible (very later) to seamless change the account chart. This would be a killer feature for Germany
2008-12-02 11:51 <udono> yangoon: yes, and Tax and Taxcode...
2008-12-02 11:51 <cedk> it is not a real history as it will works for the futur also :-)
2008-12-02 11:51 <Timitos> cedk: yes this is really great
2008-12-02 11:51 <yangoon> cedk: good history then!
2008-12-02 11:53 <cedk> and it will be different from the history stuff that we talk previously
2008-12-02 11:53 <Timitos> cedk: as i think that you will put nearly every thing of the account into history the function could be easily extend with other values as i mentioned above with "allowed taxes"?
2008-12-02 11:54 <cedk> Timitos: yes, we must make it easyly to extend
2008-12-02 11:55 <Timitos> cedk: so i understand now what you will do. it is really great as it does what i need on a lower level.
2008-12-02 11:55 <yangoon> sorry, lost the beginning of the chat because of an outage here: will that be part of module account or already an extension?
2008-12-02 11:56 <yangoon> ah, already ansered
2008-12-02 11:56 <cedk> yangoon: don't know for now
2008-12-02 11:57 <cedk> there is some change to do in the standard module like keep the template
2008-12-02 11:57 <Timitos> cedk: some more questions?
2008-12-02 12:01 <Timitos> so i think we can finish our discussion. thx to all
2008-12-02 12:02 <Timitos> Cristi: your questions please ;-) and thx for you patience
2008-12-02 12:03 <Cristi> i knoiw you have work to do so do i so i will be fast :)
2008-12-02 12:03 <Cristi> thx
2008-12-02 12:03 <cedk> Timitos: oups it was a question :-) I thought you want to ask me a question
2008-12-02 12:04 <Cristi> 1) tryton is a framework for building desktop app in pyton or an erp python system
2008-12-02 12:04 <Cristi> ?
2008-12-02 12:04 <udono> Cristy: "may tryton be used as an application framework or mostly as an erp" see what Tryton exactly is. For what exactly you like to use Tryton is in your imagine. For the Tryton Project it is both: Framework and ERP Modules.
2008-12-02 12:04 <Timitos> cedk: so i think you have no more questions, right?
2008-12-02 12:04 <Cristi> udono, thx.
2008-12-02 12:05 <cedk> Timitos: not for now
2008-12-02 12:05 <Timitos> cedk: ok.
2008-12-02 12:05 <Cristi> q2) since i will want to code real soon :) first i want to understand the applciation so the best way for understanding it is to use it
2008-12-02 12:05 <udono> Cristi: so if you have other target, maybe system administration, you can user the tryton framework as well. But you have to create your own modules for this...
2008-12-02 12:06 <Cristi> for that i would like to start by importing ROmanian account chart
2008-12-02 12:06 <Cristi> what are the stept i should do by doing that.
2008-12-02 12:06 <Cristi> also i would ike to translate
2008-12-02 12:06 <Cristi> udono, my question was if is something similar to open objects or so.
2008-12-02 12:07 <yangoon> Cristi: about translation process there exists already good docu in the wiki
2008-12-02 12:07 <Cristi> stepts that i have done : installed ubuntu,and got the code with a veru nice script provided by one of you
2008-12-02 12:07 <udono> Cristi: for module development take a look into the party module, it is simple in function. Also take a look into the trytond/doc/ folder there is an general explanation of coding modules.
2008-12-02 12:07 <Cristi> yangoon, thx i will study
2008-12-02 12:07 <yangoon> Cristi: if something should be unclear just ask
2008-12-02 12:08 <Cristi> BYW shoudl i used the demo connection ?
2008-12-02 12:08 <Cristi> or should i do a local
2008-12-02 12:08 <Cristi> and build the whole system on my local comp ?
2008-12-02 12:09 <cedk> Cristi: for documentation, if there is something unclear, it will be great if you can improve it :-)
2008-12-02 12:09 <Cristi> well i i ahve unclear things not specfied there i will come back :)
2008-12-02 12:10 <Cristi> and we will put those things in the doc for other newbies
2008-12-02 12:10 <udono> Cristi: chart of accounts. Install the german one Timitos mentioned earlier and show what is possible... you need to translate the table you have into xml.
2008-12-02 12:10 <Cristi> whare should i do that
2008-12-02 12:11 <Cristi> on a local server
2008-12-02 12:11 <Cristi> ?
2008-12-02 12:11 <udono> Cristi: developing local
2008-12-02 12:11 <Cristi> ok...
2008-12-02 12:11 <Cristi> i ahev all sources...i guess there is some doc for starting up the whole thing
2008-12-02 12:11 <Cristi> like server and client
2008-12-02 12:11 <Cristi> on wiki
2008-12-02 12:12 <udono> Cristi: for the chart of accounts it would be good to create an own module. Do not put the accounts by hand into the system, because you cannot export them adequately via xml.
2008-12-02 12:13 <Cristi> so what that implies to take the xml sample from de and adapt to ro ?
2008-12-02 12:13 <Cristi> there is an import from xml ?
2008-12-02 12:14 <udono> Cristi: yes, on Module level the account_de.xml is imported. See the in the module
2008-12-02 12:14 <udono> Cristi: on user level you can import and export csv only.
2008-12-02 12:15 <Timitos> Cristi: you need to understand how information about account charts and other things are installed in tryton.
2008-12-02 12:15 <Timitos> Cristi: it is very simple. you can create a module, put the xml-data of the romanian account chart there and install it
2008-12-02 12:16 <Cristi> ok.
2008-12-02 12:16 <Cristi> thx for all :)
2008-12-02 12:16 <Timitos> Cristi: this is modularity. i think you will understand better if you have a local installation of tryton on your machine
2008-12-02 12:16 <Cristi> yep...
2008-12-02 12:16 <Cristi> for sure...
2008-12-02 12:17 <Cristi> about local instalation
2008-12-02 12:17 <Cristi> everything i need to know is on wiki
2008-12-02 12:17 <Cristi> ?
2008-12-02 12:17 <Timitos> Cristi: yes
2008-12-02 12:17 <Cristi> guys thx...
2008-12-02 12:17 <Cristi> A LOT
2008-12-02 12:17 <Cristi> for your time
2008-12-02 12:18 <Timitos> Cristi: what linux distribution are you using?
2008-12-02 12:18 <Cristi> Ubuntu
2008-12-02 12:18 <Cristi> was recomennded as a begginer
2008-12-02 12:18 <Cristi> in linux
2008-12-02 12:19 <Timitos> Cristi: so i think you could use this installation instruction:
2008-12-02 12:19 <Cristi> i installed all src already
2008-12-02 12:19 <Cristi> with mercurial stuff as well
2008-12-02 12:19 <Cristi> i really hope i will code soon in python ....
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2008-12-02 13:10 <CIA-54> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 1316:28917cff6847 trytond/doc/ Put version in html title for doc
2008-12-02 13:10 <CIA-54> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 1079:97184349c99e tryton/doc/ Use html_title for doc
2008-12-02 13:13 <udono> cedk: bechamel: I need to create special reports as *.txb files, which are mainly text files with some variables inside. Is it possible to do this in Tryton with the reporting mechanism over relatorio and genshi? Or did I need to teach the client how to handle *.txb files?
2008-12-02 13:14 <udono> actually the *.txb only needed to be saved in the filesystem...
2008-12-02 13:14 <cedk> udono: the client will ask you to save the txt file
2008-12-02 13:15 <cedk> udono: and I don't think that relatorio handle txt file
2008-12-02 13:15 <cedk> udono: you can write the code
2008-12-02 13:15 <bechamel> cedk: but genshi does i think
2008-12-02 13:15 <nicoe> relatorio handles txt file (using genshi)
2008-12-02 13:16 <udono> nicoe: great
2008-12-02 13:16 <cedk> nicoe: how to you put the tags ?
2008-12-02 13:16 <nicoe> BTW: hi
2008-12-02 13:16 <udono> nicoe: hi
2008-12-02 13:16 <nicoe> There 's an example of ConText that use a txt file syntax
2008-12-02 13:17 <udono> nicoe: thanks
2008-12-02 13:17 <nicoe> The file is called basic.tex
2008-12-02 13:18 <udono> cedk: what did the tryton client do if I give him a txb (not txt) file?
2008-12-02 13:19 <udono> cedk: did he request me where to save the file?
2008-12-02 13:19 <nicoe> But since tryton does not use the reportrepository of relatorio I think the easyest thing to do is to use genshi's TexTemplate
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2008-12-02 13:19 <nicoe> (but I might be wrong about tryton not using the reportrepository)
2008-12-02 13:19 <udono> nicoe: don't understand
2008-12-02 13:20 <nicoe> In fact relatorio comes with a reportrepository that we use for our framework
2008-12-02 13:20 <cedk> udono: for every file that it doesn't know, it proposes to save it
2008-12-02 13:20 <CIA-54> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 192:33f7c01ae34f website/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Added sphinx doc
2008-12-02 13:20 <CIA-54> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 193:ba5a89560fbb website/: merge
2008-12-02 13:20 <udono> cedk: ok, thanks
2008-12-02 13:20 <nicoe> It is this repository that know how to handle files according to their mimetype
2008-12-02 13:21 <nicoe> but AFAIK tryton use the relatorio templates directly
2008-12-02 13:21 <cedk> udono: you can use Report and override the function parse
2008-12-02 13:21 <nicoe> Thus you only need to use the genshi template ...
2008-12-02 13:22 <cedk> udono: with that you can have the translation working, I think
2008-12-02 13:23 <udono> nicoe: txb is the official unofficial ;-) mimetype of taxbird. So actually it is no real mimetype...
2008-12-02 13:24 <nicoe> This is irrelevant for relatorio you can always register it as a "text/plain" mimetype
2008-12-02 13:24 <udono> cedk: no need for translation, only numberformat needed. Its for automated tax declaration...
2008-12-02 13:24 <udono> nicoe: ok, I see
2008-12-02 13:24 <nicoe> but this is not used by tryton
2008-12-02 13:25 <udono> nicoe: cedk thanks, I will try a prototype.
2008-12-02 13:25 <cedk> udono: so you will have also the number formating, but if it fixed for the report the best is to hardcoded in it
2008-12-02 13:26 <udono> cedk: ok
2008-12-02 13:26 <nicoe> udono: you're welcome
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2008-12-02 15:58 <Cristi_> does Tryton support negative values on stock (like negative stocks) ?
2008-12-02 15:59 <cedk> Cristi_: yes
2008-12-02 15:59 <Cristi_> or is configurable such a feature
2008-12-02 15:59 <Cristi_> gr8
2008-12-02 16:00 <Cristi_> how many tables db have ... ?
2008-12-02 16:01 <Cristi_> is somewehre a diagram with those ?
2008-12-02 16:13 <udono1> Cristi_: no, there is not such a diagram afaik
2008-12-02 16:14 <udono1> Cristi_: Tryton is modular, so the need is very small for such a diagram
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2008-12-02 16:18 <udono1> Cristi_: but a grep -R " _name" *| wc -l gives me 411.
2008-12-02 16:21 <Cristi_> udono1, 411
2008-12-02 16:21 <Cristi_> ?
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2008-12-02 16:23 <udono1> Cristi_: yes, but it's a wrong number... the _name attribute indicates often that it is a database table. Maybe better is grep -R "(OSV)" *|wc -l which gives me 289 hits, which results maybe in 289 tables...
2008-12-02 16:24 <bechamel> udono1: even better: grep -R " _name" * | cut -d ":" -f 2 | sort | uniq | wc -l
2008-12-02 16:24 <Cristi_> so each module with it's own set of tables or so buyt this do not imply some dependency btween modules ?
2008-12-02 16:24 <Cristi_> wow 289 tables ?????
2008-12-02 16:24 <bechamel> gives 178, but it includes reports and wizards
2008-12-02 16:25 <udono1> nice questions Cristi_ .-)
2008-12-02 16:25 <udono1> bechamel: sounds good
2008-12-02 16:27 <bechamel> Cristi_: yes there si dependencies looks in in each module
2008-12-02 16:27 <Cristi_> ok thx
2008-12-02 16:28 <Cristi_> BTW...
2008-12-02 16:28 <Cristi_> salary module in RO is the most difficult one
2008-12-02 16:28 <Cristi_> since laws are very unstalbe
2008-12-02 16:28 <Cristi_> is such a thing done in Tryton salay module...but very configurable i say....
2008-12-02 16:29 <Cristi_> or it wil requre a module for each country since is so different
2008-12-02 16:29 <Cristi_> ?
2008-12-02 16:29 <udono1> Cristi_: I think so
2008-12-02 16:30 <Cristi_> udono1, thinks so exists or new module
2008-12-02 16:30 <Cristi_> ?
2008-12-02 16:30 <udono1> Cristi_: new module for each country.
2008-12-02 16:30 <Cristi_> oki
2008-12-02 16:30 <Cristi_> the i will do for ro :)
2008-12-02 16:31 <udono1> Cristi_: didn't you have cheap service for that?
2008-12-02 16:31 <Cristi_> what do you mean ?
2008-12-02 16:31 <udono1> Cristi_: yu are talking about payroll accounting?
2008-12-02 16:32 <Cristi_> yes
2008-12-02 16:32 <Cristi_> unfotunately my ERP english terms are not very accurate
2008-12-02 16:32 <Cristi_> i just ordered an dictionary for that
2008-12-02 16:32 <Cristi_> cheap service for payroll accounting ?
2008-12-02 16:33 <Cristi_> i do not understand.
2008-12-02 16:33 <udono1> Cristi_: so in germany we have special online solutions for the general cases. You pay per employee and get a legal payroll result...
2008-12-02 16:33 <Cristi_> well we have soe program that is distributed by the government
2008-12-02 16:33 <Cristi_> but those are not what i meant
2008-12-02 16:34 <Cristi_> you have a lot of taxes to pay whe you do a payroll (salary)
2008-12-02 16:35 <Cristi_> like heath taxes, pension taxes ,if you have kids then some other forumlas etc etc
2008-12-02 16:35 <udono1> Cristi_: it is a very sensitive topic I would not make by myself... They did it for some euros
2008-12-02 16:35 <udono1> ... in germany
2008-12-02 16:35 <Cristi_> the are taxes that are suported by the firm and taxes
2008-12-02 16:35 <Cristi_> supported by the employee
2008-12-02 16:36 <udono1> Cristi_: yes, and everything changes every year... it is unmaintainable in my opinion
2008-12-02 16:36 <Cristi_> well i have to tell you ...
2008-12-02 16:36 <Cristi_> in ro
2008-12-02 16:37 <Cristi_> each erp must have that up to date
2008-12-02 16:37 <Cristi_> otherwise you can;t sell implemnt that
2008-12-02 16:37 <Cristi_> they do not lie to pay subscription for maintanance in 2,3 places
2008-12-02 16:38 <Cristi_> each country with it's habbits
2008-12-02 16:39 <Cristi_> BUT....if you want may integrate that throwu a web service...
2008-12-02 16:39 <Cristi_> if someone already implemente it
2008-12-02 16:40 <Cristi_> instead of going on that site you make a deal with them to provide request a response that is managed by tryton or so...
2008-12-02 16:40 <udono1> Cristi_: this I meant. Its hard to maintain yourself, better give it away if it is possible...
2008-12-02 16:41 <Cristi_> correct....but here ERP includes that...:((
2008-12-02 16:42 <udono1> Cristi_: In germany accounting software include that, but ERP ?
2008-12-02 16:42 <Cristi_> ERP includes accounting,stocks,inventory ,payroll,some CRM ,
2008-12-02 16:43 <Cristi_> at least that is what is understood
2008-12-02 16:43 <Cristi_> aaa sale force
2008-12-02 16:45 <udono1> Cristi_: to much maintenance for open source I see. But if you like, write your payroll ;-)
2008-12-02 16:46 <Cristi_> i have a long road untul then
2008-12-02 16:47 <Cristi_> how many customers you have ?
2008-12-02 16:47 <udono1> Cristi_: don't worry, you'll get help, even on a kamikaze payroll module ;-)
2008-12-02 16:47 <Cristi_> THX !!!!
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2008-12-02 17:24 <Gorgol> Hi, is there anywhere a virtual machine image that I can download to test tryton?
2008-12-02 17:25 <Gorgol> :)
2008-12-02 17:26 <Gorgol> is this readable for world? I do not know if the client really is connected to irc...
2008-12-02 17:26 <udono1> Gorgol: yes you are readable
2008-12-02 17:26 <udono1> Gorgol: welcome
2008-12-02 17:26 <udono1> Gorgol: sorry I don't know about a virtual machine
2008-12-02 17:26 <Gorgol> ah ,ok, thanks. not soirc experienced with opera, but I just gave it a try...
2008-12-02 17:27 <udono1> Gorgol: but you may try
2008-12-02 17:28 <Gorgol> a vm would be a really, really good starting point... I really would like to check tryton, it would be so much easier with a vm... the install "terror" is a big hurdle
2008-12-02 17:29 <Gorgol> an online demo is nice, but I would like to test with some more "real" data that I can not input to a public server...
2008-12-02 17:29 <udono1> Gorgol: we are working on a VM for XEN but this takes time...
2008-12-02 17:29 <udono1> Gorgol: do you have a linux system?
2008-12-02 17:30 <Gorgol> well, to say the truth... I never used xen and it seems even more installation hassle to get xen running... would be a good choice - it is also open source and runs very well
2008-12-02 17:31 <Gorgol> does the stable release of tryton run well on etch?
2008-12-02 17:32 <Gorgol> if yes, it is not so complicated to make an vm...
2008-12-02 17:34 <udono1> Gorgol: AFAIK is panthera packing debian. But I don't know the status.
2008-12-02 17:35 <Gorgol> is still valid and working?
2008-12-02 17:36 <Cristi_> almost
2008-12-02 17:36 <Cristi_> i made some steps...
2008-12-02 17:36 <Cristi_> but i did not have time to finish all aof them
2008-12-02 17:36 <Cristi_> XEN si like Virtual Box or so ?
2008-12-02 17:36 <panthera> Gorgol: i wouldn't use etch
2008-12-02 17:37 <panthera> Gorgol: official tryton packages will soon by available, i probably need another weekend to finish them, finally.
2008-12-02 17:38 <cedk> Gorgol: you can install with easy_install in a personnal directory
2008-12-02 17:41 <Gorgol> why not etch?
2008-12-02 17:42 <Gorgol> how to easy_install in *personal* directory? doesn?t easy_install always write to global site-packages directory?
2008-12-02 17:43 <cedk> Gorgol: PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:~/tryton
2008-12-02 17:44 <cedk> Gorgol: easy_install -d ~/tryton tryton
2008-12-02 17:44 <Gorgol> thanks, cedk!
2008-12-02 17:45 <cedk> Gorgol: it is: export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:~/tryton
2008-12-02 17:45 <Gorgol> ah, ok...
2008-12-02 17:46 <Gorgol> Cristi: XEN is a similar virtual machine technique, yes, but not as easy to use as (my personal view)
2008-12-02 17:48 <Cristi_> Gorgol, thx
2008-12-02 17:50 <CIA-54> tryton: matb roundup * #633/Online demo: AttributeError: 'BrowseRecordNull' object has no attribute 'currency': [new] Inserting one of the existing products into sale: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/trytond/", line 282, in run re ...
2008-12-02 17:52 <udono1> Is it possible to inherit a wizard?
2008-12-02 17:53 <cedk> udono1: yes
2008-12-02 17:53 <udono1> cedk: is there an example in a module?
2008-12-02 17:54 <udono1> cedk: did I need to instanciate it?
2008-12-02 17:55 <cedk> udono1: there is no example
2008-12-02 17:56 <cedk> udono1: it works like models
2008-12-02 17:58 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 75:1e6e03439e1a sale/ Fix get_sale_price if the user has no company for issue633
2008-12-02 17:58 <CIA-54> tryton: ced roundup * #633/Online demo: AttributeError: 'BrowseRecordNull' object has no attribute 'currency': [resolved] Fix with changeset 1e6e03439e1a
2008-12-02 17:58 <udono1> cedk: thanks I try
2008-12-02 17:59 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 171:b08d91f664ce purchase/ Fix get_purchase_price if the user has no company
2008-12-02 18:00 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 163:4298f3d6df9b purchase/ Fix get_purchase_price if the user has no company
2008-12-02 18:00 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 70:035c06393cde sale/ Fix get_sale_price if the user has no company for issue633
2008-12-02 18:38 <Gorgol> Panthera, sorry but why not etch? Do you mean "use lenny" or do you mean "do not use debian"?
2008-12-02 18:40 <nicoe> panthera: I made a RFP for relatorio, I suppose that since you're working on getting tryton in debian you intend to create such a package
2008-12-02 18:49 <panthera> Gorgol: it's the 'use lenny' argument
2008-12-02 18:49 <panthera> nicoe: yeah, however i generally don't write ITPs, i just upload. but thanks for the pointer,
2008-12-02 18:49 <panthera> i will retitle your bug accordingly.
2008-12-02 18:50 <nicoe> ok thanks
2008-12-02 18:54 <Gorgol> BTW @all: I see you are using Google Groups - this service does not offer archives of disuccions for download like every mailman install does
2008-12-02 18:55 <Gorgol> that means if anybody wants to dive into past discussions to see, what was going on with tryton, (s)he is forced to use the Google web Interface
2008-12-02 18:55 <panthera> nicoe: didn't found it; what's the number?
2008-12-02 18:56 <Gorgol> there are no downloadable tar.gz files of past disussions, so no chance to import "all tryton discussions of 2008" into you favorit mail reader
2008-12-02 18:56 <Gorgol> I would like to suggest to use as a mirror to not let the triton history disappear in googleland forever :)
2008-12-02 18:57 <Gorgol> sorry trYton
2008-12-02 18:59 <nicoe> panthera #507460
2008-12-02 19:00 <cedk> Gorgol: so we must create a readonly mailing list on ?
2008-12-02 19:01 <Gorgol> dont know if it has to be read only, but at least gmane is the easiest way to get an archive with fast access if you want to use a newsreader
2008-12-02 19:01 <yangoon> cedk not read only, if possible
2008-12-02 19:01 <Gorgol> that means no work, just subscribe the group to gmane
2008-12-02 19:02 <cedk> but if it is not readonly some will post on gmane and nothing will be in google
2008-12-02 19:02 <yangoon> cedk: then you can post back using a newsreader
2008-12-02 19:02 <yangoon> cedk there is a gateway back
2008-12-02 19:03 <cedk> yangoon: where and how ?
2008-12-02 19:03 <yangoon> cedk mom, tel
2008-12-02 19:03 <Gorgol> i do not know if gmane -> google works, but at least youwill have a history that is accessible via another way than google web reader
2008-12-02 19:05 <Gorgol> there is no other place where one could download "discussions of last six months" easily
2008-12-02 19:05 <Gorgol> of course I believe offline reader rules totally over google webinterface
2008-12-02 19:05 <cedk> Gorgol: there is the rss
2008-12-02 19:06 <Gorgol> but you can not rss "last three months" - can you?
2008-12-02 19:07 <Gorgol> I think of people that will come to project in a year or so - you and me of course have the archive NOW, but in future it will be not so easy to download mailing list history, you have to use google side then and browse through the pages
2008-12-02 19:08 <Gorgol> exporting whole thread or something is not possible with google
2008-12-02 19:09 <Gorgol> 1000 reasons for using offline reader for mailing lists - however, google does not offer monthly archives for download or anything. history will disappear behind google web interface hey, Ajax is cool, isnt it? makes you forget about the important things ;)
2008-12-02 19:11 <Gorgol> another thing: is there already an import module for any webshop?
2008-12-02 19:11 <cedk> I do a gmane.comp.erp.tryton ?
2008-12-02 19:12 <Gorgol> there are gmane.comp.python groups...
2008-12-02 19:13 <cedk> bechamel: ping
2008-12-02 19:14 <cedk> or gmane.comp.tryton
2008-12-02 19:14 <udono1> Gorgol: no webshop interface.
2008-12-02 19:16 <Gorgol> is there a starting point to look at to learn how a webshop import module should look like?
2008-12-02 19:16 <yangoon> cedk people from gmane .org have to approve the name
2008-12-02 19:17 <yangoon> cedk: I don't know, too, if posting back to google groups works, but it works for other groups you have authenticate
2008-12-02 19:18 <yangoon> cedk would be a huge advantage to have threaded view in a newsreader
2008-12-02 19:18 <Cristi_> guys ...shoud i reserve ???:))
2008-12-02 19:18 <udono1> Gorgol: good question. I would say interfacing via xmlrpc will be good. I do not prefer direct database manipulation...
2008-12-02 19:19 <yangoon> Gorgol: don't know about the quality, but there exist soem for openerp: oscommerce, satchmo...
2008-12-02 19:19 <cedk> Gorgol: it is not easy to interface with webshop because most of webshop are really simple with taxes and so on
2008-12-02 19:20 <cedk> I submit a request for gmane.comp.tryton
2008-12-02 19:20 <cedk> if all is right, I will try to upload the archive of the mailling list
2008-12-02 19:21 <cedk> if I find a way to convert maildir into mbox
2008-12-02 19:21 <yangoon> OTOH they have mostly the ability to handle product variations, something not included (yet) in tryton
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2008-12-02 19:23 <cedk> yangoon: their is the needs for product variation as we have product.template
2008-12-02 19:24 <cedk> yangoon: it is not displaied in the interface because there is not so much company that needs it and it complicate the views
2008-12-02 19:25 <yangoon> cedah ok, now I know the sense of product template, i wondered already looking at the database...
2008-12-02 19:26 <udono1> bye, see you tomorrow
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2008-12-02 19:29 <bechamel> cedk: if gmane is not readonly this could leads to sync problems with google
2008-12-02 19:29 <yangoon> bechamel: why?
2008-12-02 19:30 <yangoon> bechamel: it is like any other news2mail gateway
2008-12-02 19:31 <yangoon> cedk normally if creating gmane group they want to know type of mailing list software: do they list google groups?
2008-12-02 19:32 <bechamel> yangoon: maybe there is already a tool for a 2 way sync between google groups an gmane but if not, it's not an easy thing to do
2008-12-02 19:33 <yangoon> bechamel: if you cannot post back to google groups, it will be read-only anyway...
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2008-12-02 19:34 <cedk> yangoon: yes
2008-12-02 19:34 <yangoon> cedk then I suppose it will work...
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2008-12-02 19:44 <CIA-54> tryton: rstr roundup * #634/KeyError: 'company': [new] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/tryton/gui/window/", line 283, in sig_activate if not self.sig_action('tree_open', wa ...
2008-12-02 19:47 <CIA-54> tryton: ced roundup * #634/KeyError: 'company': [chatting] On which form was you?
2008-12-02 19:50 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 386:df3b30618504 stock/ ( move.xml): Remove type on move and use unit_price_required
2008-12-02 19:51 <CIA-54> tryton: Timitos roundup * #634/KeyError: 'company': i can confirm this issue module account_statement menu item 'Draft Statements'
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2008-12-02 20:10 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 375:3e030f14b662 stock/ Change type into futur unit_price_required
2008-12-02 20:15 <CIA-54> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 200:cbab935ddad0 website/ (16 files in 7 dirs): Refactoring for better doc urls
2008-12-02 20:22 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 324:f08df437a438 account/ Override default_sequence from ORM
2008-12-02 20:22 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 78:a531649d491a account_statement/statement.xml: Remove old currency and company field in tree view for issue634
2008-12-02 20:22 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 79:39bfa324988b account_statement/ ( journal.xml statement.xml): Remove reference to Bank in strings
2008-12-02 20:24 <CIA-54> tryton: ced roundup * #634/KeyError: 'company': [resolved] Fix with changeset a531649d491a
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2008-12-02 20:27 <CIA-54> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 201:a8579346f00a website/screen.css: Improve main css
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2008-12-02 20:33 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 1317:8fe227e10e12 trytond/TODO: Add todo for fields_view_get
2008-12-02 20:33 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 1318:cbb7aaa990c3 trytond/: merge
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2008-12-02 20:50 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 1083:dca41ee7022e tryton/: merge
2008-12-02 20:51 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 1046:35ac60edb40f tryton/ (doc/ tryton/ Increase version number
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2008-12-02 20:51 <CIA-54> tryton: C?dric Krier <> default * 1049:8b797ccd7214 tryton/doc/ merge
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