IRC logs of #tryton for Sunday, 2009-01-11 #tryton log beginning Sun Jan 11 00:00:02 CET 2009
2009-01-11 00:06 <vengfulsquirrel> Is there any way to handle expired or damaged goods when taking inventories?
2009-01-11 00:08 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: what do you mean?
2009-01-11 00:10 <vengfulsquirrel> Well for example a case where you expect 10 but 9 are fine and 1 is damaged. If I just change that to 9, then 1 is moved into Lost and Found right ? But its not really Lost at all it really is damaged/expired.
2009-01-11 00:12 <vengfulsquirrel> *In the scenario where you are taking inventory for a product and 10 are expected.
2009-01-11 00:15 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: there is many possibilities:
2009-01-11 00:16 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: you can make an inventory with an other location for product damaged
2009-01-11 00:16 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: or you can make an internal packing to a damaged location
2009-01-11 00:17 <cedk> but for me a damaged product can no more be sale, so it is like a lost
2009-01-11 00:18 <vengfulsquirrel> yeah Lost seems like it is going to be Found, like someone moved it without telling anyone in Inventory and you are waiting for that person to return it or for someone to find it
2009-01-11 00:19 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: but for the company, it is the same lost or damaged or expired
2009-01-11 00:20 <cedk> because you can no more sale it or use it
2009-01-11 00:23 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: except if you have different behavior for damaged product ?
2009-01-11 00:23 <vengfulsquirrel> Hmm from a sales perspective yes they are the same, but not from the inventory management perspective, losing stuff is a different problem from having stuff expire or get damaged. You know for the most part what happened to damaged and/or expired stuff but you don't know why stuff is getting lost.
2009-01-11 00:24 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: so just create a location for damaged product
2009-01-11 00:26 <vengfulsquirrel> I was thinking about adding another column to an inventory, expired quantity, which would automatically make a move from the location to the Expired location for the wharehouse.
2009-01-11 00:26 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it is doable in a module
2009-01-11 00:28 <vengfulsquirrel> Okay I think it would be similar to Lost and Found but just have a different meaning and could help keep inventory more accurate in companies that have expirable goods.(and similarly for damagable goods)
2009-01-11 00:28 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: except that generally you count the product that you find damaged, and not the product you lost :-)
2009-01-11 00:29 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: so perhaps it is better to create a new form
2009-01-11 00:29 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: where you put the quantity of product that you remove from the stock
2009-01-11 00:30 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: we are working on a module for product breakage
2009-01-11 00:31 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it is a form like the inventory but where you put the quantity of product breaked
2009-01-11 00:31 <vengfulsquirrel> Well lost quantity = expected quantity - (found quantity + damaged quantity)
2009-01-11 00:31 <cedk> s/breaked/broken/
2009-01-11 00:32 <vengfulsquirrel> Why would you count damaged items at a seperate time from counting non-damaged items?
2009-01-11 00:33 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: I think you update the stock quantity with damaged product than with inventory
2009-01-11 00:34 <cedk> most of the company make an inventory once by year
2009-01-11 00:34 <cedk> but they encode daily or weekly, the product that they trash
2009-01-11 00:36 <vengfulsquirrel> encode?
2009-01-11 00:36 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: put in the system
2009-01-11 00:37 <vengfulsquirrel> Yeah I thought weekly cycling inventories was supposed to prevent having to do a yearly inventory ?
2009-01-11 00:37 <cedk> in belgium, a company must do a at least one inventory per year
2009-01-11 00:40 <vengfulsquirrel> That's really weird. You mean all at once ? If its over a few weeks then its not much different than cycling.
2009-01-11 00:41 <vengfulsquirrel> Does the government have to come in and oversee it ?
2009-01-11 00:42 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: no gov :-) and I don't know much about details
2009-01-11 00:43 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: but many company make this in the first day of january
2009-01-11 00:44 <vengfulsquirrel> Hmm interesting
2009-01-11 00:46 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: I need to speak with our accountant for some thing, I can ask him about the inventory stuffs
2009-01-11 00:51 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Okay, can you look at this diagram?
2009-01-11 00:52 <vengfulsquirrel> I'm still trying to get organized to get some discussion going on the mailing list about Production planning.
2009-01-11 00:53 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: seems good, except that I think "Consumed by production" is the same than Production
2009-01-11 00:54 <vengfulsquirrel> Hmm yeah that might be right I didn't think of that.
2009-01-11 00:54 <cedk> and generally, I see the lost and found outside the warehouse (but it is a question of matter)
2009-01-11 00:56 <vengfulsquirrel> Do you think having an Input/Output for production is logical ?
2009-01-11 00:57 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it can if there is like some quality check before and after the production
2009-01-11 00:58 <cedk> that makes the product not yet ready for sale
2009-01-11 00:58 <cedk> but it must be optional
2009-01-11 01:02 <vengfulsquirrel> Yeah I was thinking of the physical movement from Storage to the production line and then re-stocking the results of the production.
2009-01-11 01:04 <vengfulsquirrel> So I guess once the production run actually happened allocated goods in the production input zone would be moved into Production, and the produced goods would be moved from Production into the production output zone.
2009-01-11 01:04 <cedk> I think
2009-01-11 01:14 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Okay thanks for your time, I gotta run for now but I'll be back later.
2009-01-11 02:13 <CIA-8> tryton: Mathias Behrle <> default * 422:4f00e2974af7 stock/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE
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2009-01-11 11:00 <CIA-8> tryton: Timitos roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: pay attention to this: this part is only used "for move in packing.inventory_moves:" so this is not really an outgoing package but a package of a ...
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2009-01-11 11:58 <CIA-8> tryton: bch roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: I think also that one should use the cost_price for inventory moves (storage to outgoing location) and the list price for the outgoing moves (from ...
2009-01-11 12:02 <CIA-8> tryton: ced roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: @timitos: False, it is the loop that create outgoing moves.
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2009-01-11 12:07 <CIA-8> tryton: Timitos roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: @ced: i am speaking about def set_state_packed and this lines (line 540) of in stock module: unit_price = uom_obj.compute_price( ...
2009-01-11 12:11 <CIA-8> tryton: ced roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: @timitos: read the line 543, unit_price is used to create the outgoing move.
2009-01-11 12:16 <CIA-8> tryton: Timitos roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: ok. so i was blind. thx for pointing me this out. but i am still not sure if list_price is the right price here. i will try to go deeper again int ...
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2009-01-11 13:03 <cristi_an> i ahev some diffculties in installing mercurial
2009-01-11 13:03 <cristi_an> is possible to do that using apt-get ?
2009-01-11 13:03 <cristi_an> i want to install tryton manualy step by step not using the dev script
2009-01-11 13:07 <cristi_an> is this ok ?
2009-01-11 13:07 <cristi_an> sudo apt-get install mercurial
2009-01-11 13:07 <CIA-8> tryton: * r414 /wiki/ Initial page to document a chart of accounts creation.
2009-01-11 13:07 <CIA-8> tryton: * r415 /wiki/ Added some notes while I'm learning how everything works, so I can integrate that in a longer explanation.
2009-01-11 13:08 <cristi_an> carlos: good job i will need that information how to creat chart of acounts :)
2009-01-11 13:09 <carlos> cristi_an: I'm just starting with it, the document is not useful at all right now
2009-01-11 13:09 <cristi_an> will be :) iam sure
2009-01-11 13:09 <cristi_an> i just start myself
2009-01-11 13:09 <carlos> cristi_an: btw, apt-get install mercurial should work if you are not using a really old distribution
2009-01-11 13:09 <cristi_an> ubuntu
2009-01-11 13:09 <carlos> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10
2009-01-11 13:10 <carlos> and it's available
2009-01-11 13:10 <cristi_an> i use 8.4 or so
2009-01-11 13:10 <cristi_an> but on mercurial site on debian does not write such thing
2009-01-11 13:10 <cristi_an>
2009-01-11 13:11 <cristi_an> it write below on rpm instaltions :)
2009-01-11 13:11 <carlos> cristi_an: by default, try with apt-cache search PACKAGE
2009-01-11 13:11 <carlos> to see whether it's available in your distribution
2009-01-11 13:11 <carlos> and if it's not available, follow the instructions like the ones in the selenic website
2009-01-11 13:13 <cristi_an> it is
2009-01-11 13:13 <cristi_an> i run it and is installed thx
2009-01-11 13:14 <cristi_an> wondered why on mercurial page do not write about apt-get on debian packages
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2009-01-11 15:38 <cristi_an> Timitos: ich habe ein kleine problem
2009-01-11 15:38 <cristi_an>
2009-01-11 15:39 <cristi_an> i can't find the vatnumber directory
2009-01-11 15:39 <cristi_an> or shoud i crete that ?
2009-01-11 15:40 <Timitos> cristi_an: i think you first need to download the repository
2009-01-11 15:40 <cristi_an> i just did
2009-01-11 15:40 <cristi_an> i am on that step
2009-01-11 15:40 <cristi_an> that is in paste shown
2009-01-11 15:41 <cristi_an> isntalling the optioanl packages
2009-01-11 15:41 <Timitos> first you should navigate with a terminal into the vatnumber directory
2009-01-11 15:42 <Timitos> i think it could be perhaps in your home directory
2009-01-11 15:43 <cristi_an> ok but vatnumer directory is missing...if you run the from what i see
2009-01-11 15:44 <Timitos> cristi_an: yes. because it is optional
2009-01-11 15:44 <cristi_an> so how do i get it then ?
2009-01-11 15:44 <cristi_an> :)
2009-01-11 15:46 <Timitos> terminal: hg clone
2009-01-11 15:47 <cristi_an> i assume in module directory
2009-01-11 15:49 <Timitos> cristi_an: no
2009-01-11 15:49 <Timitos> choose another directory
2009-01-11 15:51 <cristi_an> well and do not knwo why but you are right
2009-01-11 15:51 <cristi_an> when i choosed modules directory
2009-01-11 15:51 <cristi_an> i got an error
2009-01-11 15:51 <cristi_an> then i created an optional directory and there i received all files
2009-01-11 15:51 <Timitos> vatnumber is not a module. it is another project you can say
2009-01-11 15:52 <cristi_an> and it may be installed as a packege on debian
2009-01-11 15:52 <cristi_an> ?
2009-01-11 16:01 <Timitos> cristi_an: you can use python install
2009-01-11 16:01 <Timitos> cristi_an: the is in the vatnumber directory
2009-01-11 16:02 <cristi_an> i did that
2009-01-11 16:02 <cristi_an> it's ok
2009-01-11 16:02 <cristi_an> i am just reviewing the discussion we had in december
2009-01-11 16:02 <cristi_an> since i want to do the instaltion pretty much as independed as i can
2009-01-11 16:03 <cristi_an> then i executed blindly all commdans from you
2009-01-11 16:03 <cristi_an> it worked but i did not understood why...:)
2009-01-11 16:04 <Timitos> :-)
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2009-01-11 18:51 <udono> cedk: hello, I tried the half night to get the mercurial ssl wrapper run... but no chance, my command="..." in the authorized keys file is never evaluated. Do you have an idea?
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2009-01-11 18:54 <cedk> udono: the user must have a shell
2009-01-11 18:57 <udono> cedk: he has a shell :-(
2009-01-11 18:58 <udono> cedk: where do you place the hg-ssh script? I put it in usr/local/bin
2009-01-11 19:00 <udono> cedk: because I think the script is called by the sshd user...
2009-01-11 19:00 <udono> but maybe I just need a fresh start ...
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2009-01-11 19:11 <cristi_an> for the near future : is possible to link tryton client to a receipt printer ?
2009-01-11 19:12 <cristi_an> i am 100 % sure that is possible to make native calls from python .bu tis this possible to do from client ?
2009-01-11 19:13 <cristi_an> it is all about serial comunications for some printers
2009-01-11 19:16 <cedk> udono: you must put it in a place in the PATH
2009-01-11 19:18 <cristi_an> cedk: a yes or no to my question not more
2009-01-11 19:19 <cedk> cristi_an: you can define any programs for printing
2009-01-11 19:20 <cristi_an> i was thinking how the call from client may be done...but i assume like opening open office
2009-01-11 19:20 <cristi_an> open office is an external program
2009-01-11 19:20 <cristi_an> maybe the same i can call some exe with parameters in this case
2009-01-11 19:39 <cristi_an> cedk: so answer is yes ? i may use any external device for printing as long as i have the comm protocol ?
2009-01-11 20:08 <yangoon> cristi_an: have a look under Files Actions in the client menu
2009-01-11 20:11 <cristi_an> yangoon: under which menu ?
2009-01-11 20:12 <cristi_an> i found admin/actions
2009-01-11 20:12 <yangoon> cristi_an: client menu, topmost
2009-01-11 20:13 <cristi_an> there is a button called action
2009-01-11 20:13 <cristi_an> No action defined yet !
2009-01-11 20:14 <yangoon> cristi_an: Preferences/Files Actions
2009-01-11 20:17 <cristi_an> aha
2009-01-11 20:19 <cristi_an> it is disabled on the demo
2009-01-11 20:55 <CIA-8> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <> default * 154:ef9617b2c5f7 stock_supply/COPYRIGHT: Updated Copyright
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