IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2009-05-19

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue May 19 00:00:02 CEST 2009
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2009-05-19 04:49 <CIA-48> Juan Fernando Jaramillo <juanf.jaramillo@miginternacional.com> default * 351:c6589f14ad72 account_invoice/es_CO.csv: es_CO translation
2009-05-19 04:49 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_invoice/rev/c6589f14ad72
2009-05-19 04:49 <CIA-48> Igor T?mara <igor@tamarapatino.org> default * 352:2cfa984e0012 account_invoice/es_CO.csv: merge
2009-05-19 04:49 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_invoice/rev/2cfa984e0012
2009-05-19 04:51 <CIA-48> Juan Fernando Jaramillo <juanf.jaramillo@miginternacional.com> default * 191:208220339717 sale/es_CO.csv: es_CO
2009-05-19 04:51 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/sale/rev/208220339717
2009-05-19 04:51 <CIA-48> Igor T?mara <igor@tamarapatino.org> default * 192:2f6da185e212 sale/: merge
2009-05-19 04:51 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/sale/rev/2f6da185e212
2009-05-19 04:56 <CIA-48> Juan Fernando Jaramillo <juanf.jaramillo@miginternacional.com> default * 159:65638153dc2e company/es_CO.csv: es_CO add translation for "Current Companies" as "Compa??as en Curso"
2009-05-19 04:56 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/company/rev/65638153dc2e
2009-05-19 04:58 <CIA-48> Juan Fernando Jaramillo <juanf.jaramillo@miginternacional.com> default * 280:f38709b692de party/es_CO.csv: es_CO transtation of VAT by IVA
2009-05-19 04:58 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/party/rev/f38709b692de
2009-05-19 05:00 <CIA-48> Juan Fernando Jaramillo <juanf.jaramillo@miginternacional.com> default * 314:7da3a7f1dd66 purchase/es_CO.csv: es_CO translation.
2009-05-19 05:00 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/purchase/rev/7da3a7f1dd66
2009-05-19 05:00 <CIA-48> Juan Fernando Jaramillo <juanf.jaramillo@miginternacional.com> default * 315:0a59ae49657c purchase/es_CO.csv: es_CO translation of VAT by IVA
2009-05-19 05:00 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/purchase/rev/0a59ae49657c
2009-05-19 05:00 <CIA-48> Igor T?mara <igor@tamarapatino.org> default * 316:fdeb02e37a65 purchase/: merge
2009-05-19 05:00 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/purchase/rev/fdeb02e37a65
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2009-05-19 07:58 <CIA-48> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 21:ebfb8455c49a account_de/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE
2009-05-19 07:58 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_de/rev/ebfb8455c49a
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2009-05-19 10:27 <CIA-48> matb roundup * #1053/IRC: invalid links: [new] see also issue1026: links are still pointing to non-existent repos: (08:00:54) CIA-48: http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_de/rev/ebfb8455c49a
2009-05-19 10:27 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1053
2009-05-19 10:29 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #1053/IRC: invalid links: [resolved] Fixed
2009-05-19 10:29 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1053
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2009-05-19 11:58 <CIA-48> mathias.behrle@gmx.de * r606 /wiki/Testing1_2_0.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2009-05-19 12:06 <marcus321> Moin, ich möchte mich kurz vorstellen. Ich schreibe meine Bachelor Thesis bei der Firma Vähning in Haren/Emmeln. Einige Leute hier im Chat wissen schon von dem Projekt, wie ich gehört habe.
2009-05-19 12:08 <paepke> moin marcus321
2009-05-19 12:10 <marcus321> moin
2009-05-19 12:11 <paepke> was ist das denn für ein projekt?
2009-05-19 12:11 <paepke> ähm bzw deine bachelor thesis?
2009-05-19 12:14 <marcus321> Vähning ist ein großes Gartencenter im Emsland und Sie haben noch kein Warenwirtschaftssystem o.ä. im Einsatz. Es läuft alles noch über eine große Zettelwirtschaft...
2009-05-19 12:14 <paepke> und du führst da tryton ein?
2009-05-19 12:15 <marcus321> mit 3 komulitonen, ja. wir möchten tryton anpassen an das Unternehmen.
2009-05-19 12:16 <paepke> klingt nach nem super projekt
2009-05-19 12:17 <cedk> paepke, marcus321: there is a deutsch chan on #tryton.de
2009-05-19 12:18 <cedk> here most of people speak only english
2009-05-19 12:18 <paepke> oh i'm sorry, thought it was the tryton.de channel
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2009-05-19 15:46 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #941/webdav: logs: [resolved] Fixed in the version 0.9.2
2009-05-19 15:46 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue941
2009-05-19 15:46 <panthera> cedk: btw, do you have good contact to pywebdav upstream?
2009-05-19 15:47 <panthera> if so, ping him to merge our patches:
2009-05-19 15:47 <panthera> http://git.undebian.org/?p=debian/pywebdav.git;a=tree;f=debian/patches
2009-05-19 15:48 <cedk> panthera: ok I will try
2009-05-19 15:50 <panthera> that would be very nice.
2009-05-19 15:52 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #1040/account_statement misses a 'New account statement' menu entry: [resolved] Fixed with changeset 88203a815df5
2009-05-19 15:52 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1040
2009-05-19 16:06 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #878/problem when creating record and setting inherited record manually: [testing] I installed the module and I can not reproduce the issue.
2009-05-19 16:06 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue878
2009-05-19 16:16 <CIA-48> dbrenck roundup * #1054/Parser error for *.xml in states="{'invisible': '''party_type != 'person' '''}": [new] This works: states="{'invisible': '''party_type != 'person' '''}" This does not work: states="{'invisible': '''party_type != 'person''''} ...
2009-05-19 16:16 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1054
2009-05-19 16:24 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1296:c817c4800ea7 tryton/tryton/gui/window/preference.py: Add AccelGroup on preference window for issue1041
2009-05-19 16:24 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton/rev/c817c4800ea7
2009-05-19 16:24 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #1041/Ctrl-Enter on User preference window: [resolved] Fix with changeset c817c4800ea7
2009-05-19 16:24 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1041
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2009-05-19 16:34 <CIA-48> udono roundup * #1055/Sale report need to set attribute active = True: [new] Not only sale report, all reports in all modules, in Tryton needed to set the active attribute to True. ... <field name="active" ...
2009-05-19 16:34 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1055
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2009-05-19 17:53 <mugwomp> Hello everyone and anyone.... :)
2009-05-19 17:54 <udono> hi mugwomp
2009-05-19 17:54 <CIA-48> matb roundup * #1055/Sale report need to set attribute active = True: [chatting] I think, this patch can serve as workaround, but basically there seems to be some issue appearing just in the case of sale and sale_dis ...
2009-05-19 17:54 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1055
2009-05-19 17:55 <mugwomp> Tryton looks amazing but I wish there was more documentation for us STOOPID people.
2009-05-19 17:55 <mugwomp> It doesn't seem too end user friendly yet.
2009-05-19 17:56 <udono> mugwomp: just ask here, or in our forum http://groups.google.com/group/tryton
2009-05-19 17:56 <udono> mugwomp: where you have problems?
2009-05-19 17:57 <mugwomp> OK - I'm Sigurd on the Google Group. I'm having problems building an all winxp installation.
2009-05-19 17:58 <mugwomp> I need something for a one computer office of a small company. I want to be able to grow the application later if its successful - and I hate the style of the accountancy packages I see.
2009-05-19 18:00 <mugwomp> Replies I get so far say "that should work because it should work" and "It'll work I use a small computer (under linux) and its very efficient) Very friendly and I appreciate them but I'm still looking for steps and solutions.
2009-05-19 18:01 <mugwomp> you say timitos and I say Timitos :)
2009-05-19 18:02 <Timitos> mugwomp: hi :-)
2009-05-19 18:02 <mugwomp> HI
2009-05-19 18:03 <Timitos> mugwomp: you are right. right now it is difficult to setup a tryton server on windows. the client is not the problem as there is a setup for the stable version
2009-05-19 18:03 <udono> mugwomp: sorry, I can not help, I never tried trytond on windows
2009-05-19 18:04 <udono> mugwomp: afaik dbrenck did successful deploy trytond on windows. And cedk talked about a windows package in the past...
2009-05-19 18:04 <mugwomp> I'm also being too harsh. Some action on my questions in the forum looks very promising. I owe 'dbrenck' a thankyou
2009-05-19 18:05 <mugwomp> I wish I could implement a simple nix server and windows client but the owner\operator of the business couldn't handle that.
2009-05-19 18:06 <mugwomp> Tryton has to compete in the same space as the other solutions and be MORE of what he wants not NEW and Strange - even if its more secure and better.
2009-05-19 18:07 <udono> mugwomp: So Tryton is not the right project for you, for now...
2009-05-19 18:07 <udono> afk bbl
2009-05-19 18:08 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1813:cfb7c0951935 trytond/trytond/ir/action.py: Fix get_action_id to skip active_test when searching for issue1055
2009-05-19 18:08 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/cfb7c0951935
2009-05-19 18:08 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #1055/Sale report need to set attribute active = True: [resolved] Fix with changeset cfb7c0951935
2009-05-19 18:08 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1055
2009-05-19 18:08 <mugwomp> I hope it is. I'll commit and study and work for something elegant that works well.
2009-05-19 18:10 <cedk> udono: I droped the idea of creating a windows setup for the server because it does not make sense
2009-05-19 18:11 <cedk> udono: you can not handle modules and their dependencies with windows package
2009-05-19 18:11 <cedk> mugwomp: I don't see any reason why trytond could not run on windows
2009-05-19 18:11 <mugwomp> so the windows server doesn't work? or wont perform
2009-05-19 18:12 <mugwomp> I need this to be a flexible database but its really a small amount of data
2009-05-19 18:14 <mugwomp> I'm not trying to defend Windows as an efficient solution but it could certainly be a popular one for the application.
2009-05-19 18:14 <cedk> mugwomp: I think you can setup but you must install all the dependencies
2009-05-19 18:15 <cedk> mugwomp: we don't provide setup exe for the server because it is not realy possible
2009-05-19 18:15 <mugwomp> Can I pull everything in from Mercurial?
2009-05-19 18:16 <mugwomp> The python stuff shouldn't be very registry dependent once I have Python???
2009-05-19 18:16 <cedk> mugwomp: don't understand?
2009-05-19 18:17 <mugwomp> Well is there a working server for windows that I could simply 'take' rather than build...
2009-05-19 18:17 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #1054/Parser error for *.xml in states="{'invisible': '''party_type != 'person' '''}": [invalid] It is the python syntax.
2009-05-19 18:17 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1054
2009-05-19 18:18 <cedk> mugwomp: Tryton is in python so you don't need to build it
2009-05-19 18:18 <cedk> mugwomp: you must have a working Python environment
2009-05-19 18:19 <mugwomp> I'm not talking 'build' in the compile sense but rather 'find enough pieces that work together to get it going'. Sorry imprecise speach
2009-05-19 18:19 <mugwomp> The dependecies etc...
2009-05-19 18:21 <mugwomp> The response I got dbrenck said that he built it with Python 2.4 for the server and 2.5 for the clients on the same machine? Is it not possible to build the whole setup under python 2.6?
2009-05-19 18:21 <cedk> mugwomp: I have put here: http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/win32/ some packages needed for the client
2009-05-19 18:21 <mugwomp> Thank you Cedk
2009-05-19 18:21 <cedk> mugwomp: we have not yet tested for Python2.6 but Python2.5 works for both
2009-05-19 18:23 <mugwomp> 2.5 is fine. I just dont want to trouble shoot two pythons or install two versions on the final machine.
2009-05-19 18:24 <mugwomp> I have the files. Is that everything I need for the server?
2009-05-19 18:25 <mugwomp> dbrenck says "pyWebDav (dont use the (old) "stable" version, you _must_ get the
2009-05-19 18:25 <mugwomp> latest source or this won't do on windows.) " Is this still true?
2009-05-19 18:25 <cedk> mugwomp: I'm not sure
2009-05-19 18:26 <cedk> mugwomp: yes for pywebdav but it is an optional dependency
2009-05-19 18:26 <cedk> mugwomp: it is if you want to have webdav interface
2009-05-19 18:27 <mugwomp> Ok - thanks for the help. I'll appreciate the help. I should go make use of it now.
2009-05-19 18:27 <cedk> mugwomp: but tell me if you have trouble
2009-05-19 18:27 <mugwomp> You are very kind and helpful.
2009-05-19 18:27 <mugwomp> Where are you? I'm in Guelph Ontario.
2009-05-19 18:29 <cedk> mugwomp: Belgium
2009-05-19 18:30 <mugwomp> I'm Dutch by background but everytime I'm anywhere near Belgium I end up in France, Holland, or Germany.
2009-05-19 18:30 <mugwomp> nothing personal :)
2009-05-19 18:32 <mugwomp> Cedk: a question some of these are not the most recent versions are any of these files the older versions because the new ones wont work? or are the new ones just untested?
2009-05-19 18:32 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 160:9bc27649729c product/uom.py: Make search_rec_name search also on symbol for issue934
2009-05-19 18:32 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/product/rev/9bc27649729c
2009-05-19 18:32 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #934/Product selecting UOM, can not search for Symbol only for name: [resolved] Fix with changeset 9bc27649729c
2009-05-19 18:32 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue934
2009-05-19 18:34 <cedk> mugwomp: It can be because they was not yet available when I installed on the windows host
2009-05-19 18:34 <cedk> mugwomp: It was some month ago and I didn't update it often
2009-05-19 18:35 <cedk> mugwomp: because it is a long job as windows has not a package manager :-(
2009-05-19 18:35 <mugwomp> dont I know it. ok, that makes sense. Were the DLLs part of a package? Where would I find them normally?
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2009-05-19 18:38 <mugwomp> Thanks Cedk appreciate the help.
2009-05-19 18:42 <cedk> mugwomp: I try on the official project page but somes doesn't support windows so I use google
2009-05-19 18:48 <mugwomp> Thanks Cedk.
2009-05-19 18:49 <mugwomp> I just wondered if they represent undocumented dependencies
2009-05-19 18:50 <cedk> mugwomp: some are dependencies of dependencies
2009-05-19 18:51 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 193:a413ee7f0e52 sale/sale.py: Make sale_uom change also with salable for issue950
2009-05-19 18:51 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/sale/rev/a413ee7f0e52
2009-05-19 18:51 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 194:29f7f01cb911 sale/: merge
2009-05-19 18:51 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/sale/rev/29f7f01cb911
2009-05-19 18:51 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 317:3edbb208c648 purchase/purchase.py: Make purchase_uom change with purchasable for issue950
2009-05-19 18:51 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/purchase/rev/3edbb208c648
2009-05-19 18:51 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 318:c68aa5a06905 purchase/: merge
2009-05-19 18:51 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/purchase/rev/c68aa5a06905
2009-05-19 18:52 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #950/default values for purchase uom and sale oum: [resolved] Fix with changeset a413ee7f0e52 and changeset 3edbb208c648
2009-05-19 18:52 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue950
2009-05-19 18:55 <mugwomp> What will I need to know to write my own modules?
2009-05-19 18:55 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #943/webdav: logging of connections: [chatting] Will it not be to verbose as HTTP is stateless so you have login at each requests.
2009-05-19 18:55 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue943
2009-05-19 18:57 <cedk> mugwomp: Python
2009-05-19 18:58 <cedk> mugwomp: and look at http://doc.tryton.org/
2009-05-19 19:01 <mugwomp> Can you recommend the most appropriate printed documentation to supplement doc.tryton.org
2009-05-19 19:01 <mugwomp> Are the developers pushing for python 3.0 compatability?
2009-05-19 19:02 <cedk> mugwomp: not yet
2009-05-19 19:02 <mugwomp> Broadly, what are the next 3 goals?
2009-05-19 19:02 <cedk> mugwomp: to doc comes from doc directory of each repositories
2009-05-19 19:03 <cedk> mugwomp: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/Release_1_4_0
2009-05-19 19:04 <mugwomp> I know its a terrible question but whats your guess as to the arrival of 1.4?
2009-05-19 19:05 <cedk> mugwomp: I don't understand
2009-05-19 19:06 <mugwomp> Everything looks really slick and I dont want to seem like I'm ungrateful or want to rush you. But when do you think you'll reach your 1.4 goal - so I know to concentrate on learning what isn't going to change.
2009-05-19 19:06 <mugwomp> How long till 1.4?
2009-05-19 19:06 <cedk> mugwomp: we make release every 6 months
2009-05-19 19:07 <cedk> mugwomp: of course there is a lot of chance that all the goals will not be reached
2009-05-19 19:08 <mugwomp> Is there an automated data backup feature or module? Is one planned?
2009-05-19 19:08 <mugwomp> You guys sound very well organized
2009-05-19 19:08 <cedk> mugwomp: no
2009-05-19 19:08 <cedk> mugwomp: it is easy to backup postgresql with pg_dump
2009-05-19 19:09 <mugwomp> Ok, I've done that before
2009-05-19 19:10 <cedk> mugwomp: we don't want to add technical stuff in modules. Modules are for busines stuffs
2009-05-19 19:11 <mugwomp> That makes sense. I won't really know more about modules until I have a working setup and I can get a look at them.
2009-05-19 19:11 <mugwomp> Thanks for doing great things with really great components :).
2009-05-19 19:12 <cedk> mugwomp: some goals are already reached like GroupDAV
2009-05-19 19:14 <mugwomp> What does GroupDAV mean on the customer level? What can you do with it and Thunderbird? Can you tie into Outlook?
2009-05-19 19:16 <cedk> mugwomp: we have made a module party_vcarddav, that export parties on groupdav
2009-05-19 19:16 <cedk> mugwomp: this mean that you can have a remote address book in Thunderbird, outlook, etc...
2009-05-19 19:17 <cedk> mugwomp: it is synchronous in both side
2009-05-19 19:18 <mugwomp> So you can pull addresses to build tables, address reports etc...
2009-05-19 19:18 <cedk> mugwomp: what do you mean by "build tables, address reports"?
2009-05-19 19:18 <mugwomp> Will the module handle an auto mailed report?
2009-05-19 19:19 <mugwomp> Address books as a source for the application could streamline reporting and email interaction.
2009-05-19 19:19 <cedk> mugwomp: no, it is just to have contacts that are in Tryton also in mail clients
2009-05-19 19:19 <mugwomp> ok
2009-05-19 19:20 <cedk> mugwomp: but we have in the client the option to send report by email
2009-05-19 19:23 <mugwomp> Do you have any other Canadian Users?
2009-05-19 19:24 <cedk> mugwomp: I don't think
2009-05-19 19:25 <mugwomp> Because I think I'm going to have to customize for Canadian taxes etc.... I'd love to share the workload
2009-05-19 19:26 <mugwomp> Ah well fewer helpers mean more clients :)
2009-05-19 19:35 <cedk> mugwomp: try on the mailing list
2009-05-19 19:35 <cedk> bbl
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2009-05-19 19:58 <CIA-48> mathias.behrle@gmx.de * r607 /wiki/Testing1_2_0.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
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2009-05-19 21:20 <CIA-48> udono roundup * #172/Database backup fails: [closed] Works!
2009-05-19 21:20 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue172
2009-05-19 21:25 <CIA-48> udono roundup * #1055/Sale report need to set attribute active = True: [closed] works
2009-05-19 21:25 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1055
2009-05-19 21:27 <CIA-48> udono roundup * #1052/TypeError: hasattr(): attribute name must be string: [chatting] works.
2009-05-19 21:27 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1052
2009-05-19 21:37 <CIA-48> matb roundup * #943/webdav: logging of connections: Indeed, so it will make only sense with -v option of server.
2009-05-19 21:37 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue943
2009-05-19 21:48 <CIA-48> matb roundup * #878/problem when creating record and setting inherited record manually: I can confirm the issue. I can reproduce it with product_variant installed like this: - create new product template and save - create new product, ...
2009-05-19 21:48 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue878
2009-05-19 22:10 <CIA-48> udono roundup * #1044/TypeError: unknown type (null): added screenshots and a stacktrace
2009-05-19 22:10 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1044
2009-05-19 22:13 <CIA-48> udono roundup * #1044/TypeError: unknown type (null): bin/tryton ** (tryton:1072): CRITICAL **: pygtk_generic_tree_model_get_value: assertion `VALID_ITER(iter, tree_model)' failed ERROR:common.messag ...
2009-05-19 22:13 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1044

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