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| 2009-05-24 00:18 <CIA-48> icely roundup * #1061/Exception: Reference to account.tax_group_vat not found: [new] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/trytond/protocols/netrpc.py", line 47, in run res = dispatch(host, port, 'NetRPC', *msg) F ... | ||
| 2009-05-24 00:18 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1061 | ||
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| 2009-05-24 02:20 <CIA-48> ced roundup * #1061/Exception: Reference to account.tax_group_vat not found: [closed] Duplicated with issue1060 | ||
| 2009-05-24 02:20 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1061 | ||
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| 2009-05-24 13:11 <cedk> panthera: ping | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:17 <cedk> panthera: it seems there is an issue with the debian package of account_de_skr03_2008 | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:17 <cedk> panthera: it doesn't check that the major version is the same than the server | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:17 <cedk> panthera: which is absolutly necessary (for all modules) | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:23 <panthera> cedk: there's no tryton 1.0.x in debian, only 1.2.x. therefore, all depends on e.g. tryton-server are | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:23 <panthera> unversioned. we don't do versioned depends if they are not required. | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:23 <panthera> apart from that; account_de_skr03_2008 is broken anyway, waiting for udono to release new version. | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:24 <yangoon> panthera: udono is just on the way.... | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:28 <udono> panthera: AFAIK account_de_skr03_2008 is not broken for tryton 1.0.0 | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:29 <udono> panthera: but it still not work on trytond > 1.0.0 | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:32 <udono> panthera: account_de_skr03_2008 will become account_de_skr03 on trytond >= 1.2.0 and then regulary released and updated on this base. Sorry for the misunderstandings. | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:33 <panthera> udono: as i said, it's broken in debian, as we have only 1.2.0. | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:34 <panthera> the renaming of the binary package to account-de-skr03 has already happened. | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:35 <udono> panthera: I don't know what to do? Can you tell me? | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:36 <panthera> release a version of account_de_skr03 tha tworks with 1.2.0 :) | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:36 <yangoon> udono: just release account_de_skr03, then the debian package will be updated from those sources | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:38 <udono> panthera: yangoon: that's an easy task (hopefully)! BTW Releasemanager for account_de_skr03 is Timitos, since he has access to the repository. | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:40 <panthera> even for easy tasks, someone's gotta do it :) | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:45 <Timitos> panthera: there was some misunderstanding on my site. i will perpare the release now. | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:45 <panthera> nice | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:45 <panthera> ACTION happy | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:49 <CIA-48> Korbinian Preisler <timitos@virtual-things.biz> default * 22:f21ee0165208 account_de_skr03/MANIFEST.in: fix MANIFEST for translation | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:49 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_de_skr03/rev/f21ee0165208 | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:49 <CIA-48> Korbinian Preisler <timitos@virtual-things.biz> default * 23:13297843d2fe account_de_skr03/COPYRIGHT: add Mathias Behrle to COPYRIGHT | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:49 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_de_skr03/rev/13297843d2fe | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:49 <CIA-48> Korbinian Preisler <timitos@virtual-things.biz> default * 24:7f0732991c6f account_de_skr03/__tryton__.py: Prepare release 1.2.0 | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:49 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_de_skr03/rev/7f0732991c6f | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:49 <CIA-48> Korbinian Preisler <timitos@virtual-things.biz> default * 25:914927af095b account_de_skr03/.hgtags: Added tag 1.2.0 for changeset 7f0732991c6f | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:49 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_de_skr03/rev/914927af095b | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:57 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 26:5fb4b0445b47 account_de_skr03/__tryton__.py: Update version number | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:57 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_de_skr03/rev/5fb4b0445b47 | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:57 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 26:3443f96481a2 account_de_skr03/__tryton__.py: Update version number | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:57 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/1.2/modules/account_de_skr03/rev/3443f96481a2 | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:58 <cedk> Timitos: I create the branch 1.2 for account_de_skr03 | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:58 <cedk> Timitos: don't forget to register the release on pypi | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:58 <Timitos> cedk: great. many thx | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:58 <Timitos> cedk: yes. we will do that | ||
| 2009-05-24 13:59 <cedk> Timitos: uploaded on downloads.tryton.org | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:07 <panthera> uploaded to debian, thank you guys ;) | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:08 <udono> cedk: panthera: Thank you! | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:09 <udono> Timitos: good job! | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:09 <Timitos> udono: thx :-) | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:09 <udono> cedk: do you have an estimated date for the release of trytond 1.2.1? | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:11 <udono> ... the first bugfix release... | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:20 <cedk> udono: at least one week | ||
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| 2009-05-24 14:21 <carlos> cedk: btw, about the policy of not touching database with new minor releases | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:21 <carlos> cedk: does it apply to translation updates too? | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:22 <cedk> carlos: yes, we prevent the need of running --update | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:22 <carlos> cedk: with translation updates, you don't need to do the --update, unless you really want to do it | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:23 <carlos> nothing will break if you don't update, but new installation or advanced users may still get improved translations | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:23 <yangoon> carlos: good point! | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:24 <carlos> ACTION still thinks that translation handling needs an improvement, and plans to work on an improvement for 1.4 | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:25 <carlos> however, I think we could improve the policy for 1.2 right now, without changing anything | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:27 <udono> cedk: panthera: Timitos: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/trytond_account_de_skr03/1.2.0 | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:27 <Timitos> udono: thx | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:28 <panthera> udono: i'm using the tarballs, but thanks. | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:30 <cedk> carlos: false, we must unsure that every body run with the same data | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:31 <carlos> btw, I found this interesting, we had a commercial meeting last week at Madrid between serveral Spanish companies, to get in touch about what each one offers, and we found a company that already knew about Tryton (They were looking for partners to work with to deploy ERP solutions in Spain). The interesting part is that they are not an IT company, so we are starting being known out of the IT companies :-) | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:32 <carlos> cedk: well, I guess that's a valid argument from the support point of view (we had the same kind of discussion about Ubuntu while I was working at Canonical) | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:33 <carlos> cedk: would you accept a propossal to move all translations out of the database to .mo files, just like the client, but keeping the option to override translations using the database directly, just like what we allow right now? | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:34 <cedk> carlos: the big issue is that gettext is not multi-thread aware | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:34 <carlos> cedk: that would allow you to update translations, without having to touch the database, and you will know exactly the data they are using because the translation will match a given release | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:35 <cedk> carlos: and we use the same engine to translate record values | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:35 <carlos> cedk: am I missing anything? it's a read only action, what's the problem with multi-thread? | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:35 <cedk> carlos: the way the target language is choosen | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:36 <carlos> I see | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:37 <carlos> I will think further on it, if your only problems are technical ones, I will try to find solutions for them while preparing my propossal. Is that ok for you? | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:37 <cedk> carlos: of course if you fix this, it can be possible but I don't see the useful to use a second database engine for translation as we had already a great database | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:37 <carlos> cedk: well, technically, current system is a nightmare | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:37 <cedk> carlos: but there is still the issue about records translation | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:38 <carlos> as a translator, we need to repeat a lot of translations over and over again | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:38 <cedk> carlos: why? | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:38 <carlos> we don't have a way to handle plural forms, and current translation tools are too basic, compared with how rich is the .po editors 'market' | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:38 <cedk> carlos: that is because we need translation to be modular so you must translate the name string for different model | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:39 <carlos> cedk: sure, but I talk about the same module | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:39 <carlos> I translated the 'Invoice' word a lot of times | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:39 <carlos> for the same module | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:40 <carlos> I'm not talking about merge all inside the same translation domain, that's not a good solution, but inside the same module | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:40 <cedk> carlos: in recent change, if you translate once and run update it will translate others | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:40 <carlos> having the same term translated several times is a lost of time for new translators | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:40 <carlos> cedk: I guess you talk about fuzzy feature, right? | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:41 <cedk> carlos: no, if there is a untranslated string that is the same that a one translated, it writes the translation on it | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:41 <carlos> that's a good addition, however, it's not enough (as I said earlier, I'm sure I'm biased given my previous experience with other translation systems so I'm trying to get the best of both systems to improve Tryton) | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:42 <carlos> cedk: oh, really, I didn't know that | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:42 <carlos> that's a good addition | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:42 <cedk> carlos: of course it can be improved but I'm not sure that we can fix all with gettext | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:43 <carlos> cedk: I'm not talking about just migrated to gettext | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:43 <carlos> but to use it + other good additions we already have | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:43 <cedk> carlos: from what I see with the OpenERP script that collect string to generate po file, they had a lot of issue and it seems that some string are still not translated | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:43 <carlos> like the translation override option, multilanguage support, etc | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:44 <carlos> cedk: well, they are not really using gettext | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:44 <carlos> from what I saw | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:44 <cedk> carlos: no but po file | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:44 <carlos> they added support to the .po file format | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:44 <carlos> just like the .csv file | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:44 <carlos> that's a hack | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:44 <carlos> and it's not what I'm trying to achieve | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:45 <cedk> carlos: I agree that adding multi-language will be good | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:45 <carlos> anyway, I still need to madurate my proposal and do some testing | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:45 <cedk> carlos: but it is not an easy job | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:45 <carlos> I know | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:46 <cedk> carlos: I think about a tool that merge es.csv with es_ES.csv file to generate temporaly what we had now | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:47 <carlos> to emulate the gettext search 'protocol'? | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:47 <cedk> because I think it will be to overload to have a search for es_ES and after es in the database | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:47 <carlos> oh, so it's to avoid such search | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:47 <cedk> carlos: yes, but with pre-computed result | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:48 <carlos> yeah, that will be a performance problem using a database | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:48 <cedk> carlos: but there is still after the issue about generating the files | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:49 <carlos> yeah, that's hard to be done automatically | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:49 <cedk> I don't know | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:49 <cedk> as I don't see good solution, I prefer to stay to what we have | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:50 <carlos> sure, if we don't find something better, it makes no sense to do any change | ||
| 2009-05-24 14:51 <carlos> I think we would end with a better solution, but I need to define better it and do some testing to take care of the points you talked about, as soon as I get something I will let you know | ||
| 2009-05-24 15:35 <CIA-48> udono roundup * #1062/Client Menu > Options > 'Menubar' is wrong label need to be 'Toolbar': [new] Client Menu > Options > 'Menubar' is wrong label need to be 'Toolbar' Fix attached. | ||
| 2009-05-24 15:35 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1062 | ||
| 2009-05-24 15:45 <CIA-48> udono roundup * #1062/Client Menu > Options > 'Menubar' is wrong label need to be 'Toolbar': [chatting] New patch to completely replace the name space of 'menubar' with 'toolbar' | ||
| 2009-05-24 15:45 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1062 | ||
| 2009-05-24 17:00 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1825:a95a09b5db66 trytond/trytond/ir/ui/ (graph.rnc graph.rng): Add float_time attribute in fields of graph view | ||
| 2009-05-24 17:00 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/a95a09b5db66 | ||
| 2009-05-24 17:00 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1311:552f5c9bb5f7 tryton/tryton/gui/window/view_form/view/graph_gtk/ (bar.py line.py pie.py): Handle float_time attribute on graph view | ||
| 2009-05-24 17:00 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton/rev/552f5c9bb5f7 | ||
| 2009-05-24 17:01 <CIA-48> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 71:c2efd5f83f66 timesheet/ (INSTALL __tryton__.py line.xml work.xml): Add dependency to company_work_time and use float_time attributes | ||
| 2009-05-24 17:01 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/timesheet/rev/c2efd5f83f66 | ||
| 2009-05-24 17:08 <CIA-48> udono roundup * #1062/Client Menu > Options > 'Menubar' is wrong label need to be 'Toolbar': Sorry, found some more namespace problems. But with tryton_menubar.patch4 I think all is ok. | ||
| 2009-05-24 17:08 <CIA-48> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1062 | ||
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| 2009-05-24 20:13 <CIA-48> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 4:072fd3c12788 company_work_time/ (__tryton__.py de_DE.csv): Add translation for de_DE | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:13 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/company_work_time/rev/072fd3c12788 | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:22 <CIA-48> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 131:872b1ac3851a account_statement/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:22 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_statement/rev/872b1ac3851a | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:23 <CIA-48> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 570:cf360482696e stock/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:23 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/stock/rev/cf360482696e | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:24 <CIA-48> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 1826:249ece05c8a9 trytond/trytond/ (ir/de_DE.csv res/de_DE.csv): Update translation for de_DE | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:24 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/249ece05c8a9 | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:24 <CIA-48> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 1827:6df560dfa555 trytond/: merge | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:24 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/6df560dfa555 | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:25 <CIA-48> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 72:38321f4fcde1 timesheet/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:25 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/timesheet/rev/38321f4fcde1 | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:25 <CIA-48> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 73:7e519a15f95d timesheet/: merge | ||
| 2009-05-24 20:25 <CIA-48> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/timesheet/rev/7e519a15f95d | ||
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