IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2010-01-29

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2010-01-29 15:52 <sharoon> hi cedk, bechamel: is there any start/stop timer interface as a ny separate module for the project management?
2010-01-29 15:54 <cedk> sharoon: I don't understand
2010-01-29 15:55 <sharoon> cedk: something like, you click "Start Task" and when you stop press "Stop Task" and it should log into the timesheet
2010-01-29 15:55 <sharoon> cedk: the time consumed and the assossiated task
2010-01-29 15:56 <cedk> sharoon: no
2010-01-29 15:56 <sharoon> cedk: then i need to make it, any advices, suggestions?
2010-01-29 16:04 <cedk> sharoon: it can be difficult to ensure non overlapping
2010-01-29 16:04 <cedk> sharoon: and also that you stop previous before starting new one
2010-01-29 16:04 <sharoon> cedk: i think u took it a step ahead.
2010-01-29 16:04 <sharoon> cedk: just like we enter a timesheet in hours/days, this is just like, you open a wizard select the task/project
2010-01-29 16:05 <sharoon> cedk: then type what you are going to do and click start
2010-01-29 16:05 <sharoon> cedk: then when you are done click stop
2010-01-29 16:05 <sharoon> cedk: the wizard closes and writes the work done into the timesheet
2010-01-29 16:06 <cedk> sharoon: I think this kind of stuffs doesn't work well in real life like any time tracking system
2010-01-29 16:06 <sharoon> cedk: i agree
2010-01-29 16:06 <sharoon> cedk: my client doesnt
2010-01-29 16:06 <sharoon> :P
2010-01-29 16:06 <sharoon> cedk: i doubt the usefulness too
2010-01-29 16:06 <sharoon> cedk: but its kind of the odesk crap thats there to measure the work freelancers do?
2010-01-29 16:08 <paepke> sharoon, i had the same discussion with one of my clients. he also wanted that.
2010-01-29 16:08 <sharoon> paepke: i like that!!! everybody is desperate to find what we do in our time :-D
2010-01-29 16:09 <paepke> sharoon, but after some dicussion it was clear that he had too much to fix like "ups, i didn't click the stop button"
2010-01-29 16:09 <sharoon> paepke: right!
2010-01-29 16:09 <cedk> paepke: yes and what about phone call that make you stop working
2010-01-29 16:10 <cedk> or colleagues that ask you a question
2010-01-29 16:10 <paepke> sharoon, there are a some micro clients around which tracks for example the usage of a specific program like "doing graphic stuff in photoshop". you can assign there a project from a list. maybe it would be cool to have an import script for such an extra tool.
2010-01-29 16:10 <cedk> I think this is not the right way to verify the work employee does
2010-01-29 16:10 <sharoon> cedk: i completely agree
2010-01-29 16:11 <cedk> sharoon: and so personnaly I will not encourage it :-)
2010-01-29 16:11 <paepke> cedk, yes you have to click a lot of times start/stop.
2010-01-29 16:11 <cedk> sharoon: if your customer ask it, I think the best is to try to explain that it is not a good solution
2010-01-29 16:11 <sharoon> cedk: i dont want to publish this either, not useful :(
2010-01-29 16:12 <sharoon> cedk: i am not sure thats a good idea, i have failed to convince :-)
2010-01-29 16:12 <paepke> and don't forget: the times ar often for a customer, which have to be tweaked afterwords.
2010-01-29 16:12 <cedk> sharoon: because using "ERP" is about restructuring the work
2010-01-29 16:12 <sharoon> cedk: i agree
2010-01-29 16:13 <sharoon> cedk: to add something, i loved the way you guys restructured the whole project into ModelSQL, ModelView, ModelWorkflow
2010-01-29 16:13 <paepke> but anyway: there are some situations where such a solution works. but its not for bureau accounting. more for MRP/BDE
2010-01-29 16:15 <cedk> paepke: yes but you extract time from machines
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2010-01-29 16:27 <paepke> cedk: sometimes from users. for example assembling a product by hand.
2010-01-29 16:33 <paepke> cedk, so i'm sure that kind of view or wizard will be written. maybe in context with the mrp integration
2010-01-29 17:38 <Timitos> sharoon: did you succeed building a windows client for 1.5?
2010-01-29 17:57 <sharoon> Timitos: no
2010-01-29 18:03 <Timitos> sharoon: i think the problem is simplejson. how did you install it. with easy_install?
2010-01-29 18:04 <sharoon> yes
2010-01-29 18:05 <Timitos> sharoon: try to remove simplejson and install it with 'easy_install -Z simplejson' it will unzip the package. then you should add simplejson there: http://hg.tryton.org/hgwebdir.cgi/tryton/file/f24974b508df/setup.py#l48
2010-01-29 18:06 <Timitos> sharoon: this worked for me
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2010-01-29 20:33 <sharoon1> cedk: any updates on the web client???? i think i like lex now and then we could be happy with just one client/???
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2010-01-29 20:37 <cedk> sharoon1: whet is lex?
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2010-01-29 20:56 <cedk> ACTION bbl
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