| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Wed Feb 3 00:00:02 CET 2010 | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:00 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: you will lost the transaction that are running | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:01 <vengfulsquirrel> like database transactions that have not been commited? | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:02 <vengfulsquirrel> I think if the client is just logged in and the user is doing nothing though it prevent a regular kill from killing the server. So I have to call users and tell them to close the client so I can stop the server. | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:02 <vengfulsquirrel> Is that standard procedure? | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:02 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: yes commit happens at the end of client request | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:03 <vengfulsquirrel> by regular kill I meant SIGINT I think | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:03 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: server don't stop only when client requests are running | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:04 <vengfulsquirrel> Maybe they are waiting to login actually. | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:04 <vengfulsquirrel> I've been having weird performance problem. | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:04 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: with SIGINT, the server will wait until all running request will end | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:05 <vengfulsquirrel> Sometimes it takes 5 minutes from opening the client to when you can start typing your password. | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:07 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: do you have many databases? | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:07 <vengfulsquirrel> 1 db | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:09 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: network issue maybe? | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:09 <vengfulsquirrel> no, restart and uts fine | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:09 <vengfulsquirrel> super fast | ||
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| 2010-02-03 00:11 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: too much open connection? | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:11 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: there is a limit to 40 by default | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:11 <vengfulsquirrel> 2-3? | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:14 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it depends if you have a lot of dead connections | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:14 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: depending of the OS configuration, the timeout could be long | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:18 <Kavli> Hello guys. This is probably a question that is asked often here, but how do I bootstrap the database once I've installed the daemon? | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:18 <Kavli> I've tried running the daemon (trytond) as the database user, assuming it could do its own bootstrap, but nope. | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:18 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: I was just doing netstat -atp | grep 8070, is that adequate? | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:19 <cedk> Kavli: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/SetupAndStart | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:19 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: I think | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:20 <Kavli> cedk: Thanks! This is probably what I've been googling for and missed! I'll check it out! | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:20 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Yeah there are less than 5 for sure. | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:21 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: A user was waiting to login to the server, that seems to be what was keeping SIGINT from succeeding. | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:22 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Although there could have been 1 or more terminated clients, will the transaction continue on the server after a user terminates a window? | ||
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| 2010-02-03 00:22 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: transaction is per user request | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:23 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: you can see request by starting the client with -v option | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:23 <vengfulsquirrel> Right, so the server is unresponsive and the user is waiting on something for 12 minutes and then they terminate the window. | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:23 <vengfulsquirrel> I'm assuming it was still in a request. | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:26 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: yes, if you stop it the server will no longer accept new request | ||
| 2010-02-03 00:49 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: I guess I will have to try and corner the problem. I just don't understand why I need to restart trytond to make it responsive again. | ||
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| 2010-02-03 15:34 <cedk> sharoon: have you news for issue 1404? | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:34 <sharoon> the calendar one, the issue i figured out is caused by my calendar client | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:35 <sharoon> its probably sending in the weong info, now i dont have the issue, but lets check and reopen the issue if it exists | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:37 <cedk> sharoon: which client do you use? | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:38 <sharoon> cedk: sunbird on windows | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:40 <cedk> sharoon: it is strange, sunbird should work correctly | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:41 <cedk> sharoon: could you update the issue with yout information and close it if you think it must | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:42 <sharoon> cedk: also still i face an issue, when an event/todo is created on client side(sunbird/lightning in thunderbrd), it gets created on tryton but does not get displayed on the client | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:42 <sharoon> client == subird | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:44 <cedk> sharoon: is there a log in server side? | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:44 <sharoon> cedk: no | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:46 <cedk> sharoon: which version of sunbird? | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:46 <cedk> sharoon: and do you use ssl? | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:46 <sharoon> cedk: no ssl and 0.9 | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:47 <cedk> sharoon: I had bad experience with sunbird on windows without ssl | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:47 <sharoon> cedk: then its known issue | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:51 <cedk> sharoon: could you test with ssl to see if it is that | ||
| 2010-02-03 15:56 <sharoon> cedk: sure and will let you know | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:07 <cedk> sharoon: is your module sale_opportunity available somewhere? | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:08 <sharoon> cedk: yes in two version 1_4 and trunk | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:08 <sharoon> cedk: its here: | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:08 <sharoon> http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/sale_opportunity_1_4 | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:08 <sharoon> http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/sale_opportunity | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:08 <sharoon> http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/support_management_1_4 | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:10 <cedk> sharoon: thx | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:27 <cedk> sharoon: could you close codereview issue when they are done thx | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:28 <sharoon> cedk: sure | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:28 <sharoon> cedk: i think most of them are done | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:32 <cedk> Timitos, udono: do you know johbo? | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:33 <Timitos> cedk: yes | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:33 <cedk> Timitos: is he on irc? | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:34 <Timitos> cedk: sometimes. but not today. | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:34 <cedk> Timitos: he wrote the line for the issue1405 | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:35 <Timitos> cedk: i will send him a message about the issue | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:36 <cedk> Timitos: I'm doing on the issue and add him on it | ||
| 2010-02-03 16:37 <Timitos> cedk: ok | ||
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| 2010-02-03 23:31 <cedk> sharoon: you should ask to intuxication guys to put your modules into tryton folder | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:31 <sharoon> cedk: how do i do that? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:31 <cedk> sharoon: ask her on irc | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:32 <sharoon> cedk: ok | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:34 <sharoon> cedk: we now have a requirement to do the magento connector which we might prefer to do on tryton | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:35 <sharoon> cedk: anything to note, point out, any preferred ways you would recommend? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:35 <cedk> sharoon: there was some work done with satchmo http://code.google.com/hosting/search?q=label:tryton | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:37 <sharoon> cedk: we built the new connector API and magento bridge for Open ERP, but a pain to maintain them because of issues in Open ERP..... now that the focus is completely on their 5.2 release it doesnt make sense to give our customers Open ERP. | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:37 <sharoon> cedk: and satchmo is not as powerful as magento yet | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:37 <sharoon> cedk: magento is a lot of crap but functionally toooo rich and google seems to love it | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:39 <cedk> sharoon: I don't know well those softwares but it depends of the needs | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:39 <cedk> sharoon: I don't think it is good to choice one only because he has a lot of functionalities | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:39 <sharoon> cedk: the need is specific about magento, not our choise :( | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:40 <sharoon> cedk: personally i hate PHP and magento and its crappy EAV model on mysql | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:40 <cedk> sharoon: the thing I find interesting with satchmo is that it is written in Python and seems to be simple, clean and modular | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:41 <sharoon> cedk: i agree and no integration is 100% acheivable, even with open ERP we built up the most complex module and still buggy | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:42 <sharoon> cedk: i asked this before, is there any plans for tax_include in taxes? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:42 <cedk> sharoon: be careful when customer talk about technical requirements instead of business requirements | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:42 <cedk> sharoon: no tax_include will never work at least like OpenERP does | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:43 <sharoon> cedk: ok, it never works there properly ;-) | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:43 <sharoon> cedk: are u planning for it in anyway? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:44 <cedk> sharoon: we made a custom module for a customer to import sales from POS, the amount was tax include and we convert it into account move | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:45 <cedk> sharoon: so it requires to dispatch rounding error around lines | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:45 <cedk> sharoon: no we don't plan any buggy stuffs by design | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:45 <sharoon> cedk: this requirement is outside integration, tax inclusive prices are a common requirement right? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:46 <cedk> sharoon: not that way | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:46 <cedk> sharoon: like I says tax include comes from POS, so you need to define how you convert into tax exclude amount | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:48 <cedk> sharoon: invoice with tax include has no sense | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:49 <sharoon> cedk: can you explain because most companies in jurisdictions like ours with taxes quote net prices including VAT | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:49 <cedk> sharoon: and again what is the requirements? Why do you want tax include? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:50 <sharoon> cedk: sell at a price inclusive of tax is the requirement and define pricelists inclusive of VAT | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:50 <cedk> sharoon: sell like that is for large public (without invoice) | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:51 <cedk> sharoon: it is not B2B but B2C | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:51 <sharoon> cedk: agree | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:51 <cedk> sharoon: so B2C doesn't go into the workflow of sale->shipment->invoice | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:51 <cedk> sharoon: it is done by POS | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:51 <sharoon> cedk: agree again, so we have a POS? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:52 <cedk> sharoon: so POS->import into Tryton->shipment->account moves | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:52 <cedk> sharoon: there is a work: http://code.google.com/p/trytonpos/ | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:52 <cedk> sharoon: but I don't know where it is | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:53 <sharoon> cedk: there's no code | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:53 <cedk> sharoon: carlos has work on it but I don't know | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:53 <cedk> sharoon: but there is some OpenSource POS | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:54 <sharoon> cedk: ok, is carlos in the IRC? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:54 <cedk> sharoon: carlos is also his nickname on irc | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:54 <sharoon> cedk: ok, so he' not here now | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:54 <cedk> sharoon: and again, it depends of the needs of the POS | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:55 <cedk> sharoon: does it need to work on a cash machine? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:55 <sharoon> cedk: Not at all | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:55 <cedk> sharoon: how much transaction per day? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:55 <cedk> sharoon: how much POS? | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:55 <sharoon> cedk: Its mostly e-commerce orders in existing 5 magento stores, sometimes in addition phone orders | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:56 <cedk> sharoon: phone orders can be encoded into magento I guess | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:56 <cedk> sharoon: so it is not a POS that you need but an import script that convert sale into shipment and account moves | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:57 <sharoon> cedk: mostly yes, but it would be nice to maintain the workflow in tryton, meaning import sale orders as such and process the rest in tryto | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:57 <cedk> sharoon: I don't think, if you don't need invoice | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:58 <sharoon> cedk: but the problem is customer records will be in teo places, one will have to check both tryton and magento to give a proper answer | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:58 <cedk> sharoon: no, create a Model that has the magento information sync | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:58 <sharoon> cedk: ok | ||
| 2010-02-03 23:59 <cedk> sharoon: and perhaps it can be done with a non SQL Model that will query magento |
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