IRC logs of #tryton for Saturday, 2010-10-09

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sat Oct 9 00:00:02 CEST 2010
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2010-10-09 10:35 <gavinf> Hi, I've easy_installed tryton and trytond and can run the client and connect to my server but all I get is the Menu tab and when I try to list modules it shows most as unistalled even though I attempted to easy_install each one..please help
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2010-10-09 10:54 <yangoon> gavinf: go to administration/modules and select the module you want to install
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2010-10-09 14:32 <gavinf> yangoon: thanks - where do I find administration - I've looked at every menu item in tryton client and can't find it. is there another admin app?
2010-10-09 14:41 <cedk> gavinf: it is not in the menubar but in the tab named menu
2010-10-09 14:43 <cedk> gavinf: see http://www.tryton.org/img/04screenshot.png
2010-10-09 14:45 <gavinf> mmm, my meny tab screen is completely blank, just 3 empty panes
2010-10-09 14:52 <cedk> gavinf: that is strange
2010-10-09 14:52 <cedk> gavinf: how did you create the database?
2010-10-09 14:54 <cedk> ACTION bbl
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2010-10-09 15:57 <ciupicri> from where can I download extra modules for tryton?
2010-10-09 16:00 <Timitos> ciupicri: you can have a look here: http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton/ or http://labs.tryton.org/
2010-10-09 16:01 <Timitos> ciupicri: but be careful. many of them are not up to date or havenĀ“t been used in production mode yet
2010-10-09 16:02 <ciupicri> Timitos, so I choose a module and clone into the /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/trytond/modules directory?
2010-10-09 16:02 <ciupicri> and then restart the server, of course
2010-10-09 16:05 <Timitos> ciupicri: how did you install tryton?
2010-10-09 16:05 <ciupicri> Timitos, the RPM from Fedora 14 beta
2010-10-09 16:06 <Timitos> ciupicri: ok. i think it should work but i cannot promise. you need to check if the module works for the tryton version you use.
2010-10-09 16:07 <ciupicri> of course; I'm using 1.6 right now
2010-10-09 16:07 <Timitos> ciupicri: if you want to develop modules by yourself you should install tryton like it is described here: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationMercurial
2010-10-09 16:08 <ciupicri> ok; by the way I don't understand exactly what basic users/passwords tryton needs
2010-10-09 16:09 <ciupicri> there's a master admin and another one per database?
2010-10-09 16:09 <ciupicri> the documentation barely touches the initial setup
2010-10-09 16:09 <Timitos> ciupicri: yes. there is a tryton server password. you need it for database management from the client like backup, create, delete, restore
2010-10-09 16:10 <Timitos> and when you create a new database you need to define a password for the admin user of the database
2010-10-09 16:10 <ciupicri> got it
2010-10-09 16:11 <ciupicri> I have a question regarding one module "Friendly fork of official tryton stock module.". Is really there an official tryton stock module?
2010-10-09 16:11 <ciupicri> and why are new modules developed when only the translation seems to be changed?
2010-10-09 16:12 <ciupicri> e.g. stock_es, stock_fr
2010-10-09 16:12 <Timitos> ciupicri: these are modules that are used by the translators. they are only clones of the office modules
2010-10-09 16:13 <Timitos> ciupicri: you can ignore them
2010-10-09 16:13 <ciupicri> and where's the official stock module?
2010-10-09 16:15 <Timitos> ciupicri: sorry. thought you already saw the official repository: http://hg.tryton.org/ :-)
2010-10-09 16:16 <ciupicri> no, it's my fault; I've opened the page, but I've forgot to check for the stock module
2010-10-09 16:17 <ciupicri> speaking of that repository, is there an easy way (hg trick) to checkout all the modules at once?
2010-10-09 16:18 <Timitos> ciupicri: yes you can use hgnested. it is described in InstallationMercurial i posted above
2010-10-09 16:19 <ciupicri> time to test some modules. Thank you for your help!
2010-10-09 16:22 <Timitos> you are welcome
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2010-10-09 16:44 <ciupicri> hg nclone http://hg.tryton.org/1.6/modules modules => abort: requirement '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>' not supported!
2010-10-09 16:45 <ciupicri> and on the other hand I don't understand the need for nclone in "hg nclone http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/" when trytond looks to me like a regular hg repository
2010-10-09 16:59 <Timitos> ciupicri: its a special function of the server. tryton hg nclone http://hg.tryton.org/1.6/trytond
2010-10-09 16:59 <Timitos> ciupicri: it should also clone the modules
2010-10-09 16:59 <ciupicri> Timitos, and then use only the modules from there, right?
2010-10-09 16:59 <Timitos> ciupicri: yes
2010-10-09 17:01 <ciupicri> ok, thanks!
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2010-10-09 17:33 <ciupicri> Timitos, http://hg.tryton.org/1.6/trytond/ is the 1.6 branch or the 1.6.0 tag?
2010-10-09 17:34 <Timitos> ciupicri: it is the 1.6 branch
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2010-10-09 19:09 <cedk> gavinf: I'm back
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2010-10-09 19:19 <ciupicri> I run `ln -s ~/3rdparty-projects/16trytond/trytond/modules/* /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/trytond/modules' but I still don't see those modules in the tryton client
2010-10-09 19:28 <cedk> ciupicri: you must restart the server
2010-10-09 19:28 <ciupicri> cedk, I've restarted it
2010-10-09 19:29 <ciupicri> but I'll restart it again, just to be sure
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2010-10-09 19:29 <ciupicri> cedk, done
2010-10-09 19:30 <ciupicri> all I see are ir, res, webdav and workflow
2010-10-09 19:38 <ciupicri> cedk, so, do you have any ideas?
2010-10-09 19:42 <cedk> ciupicri: is there any error message in the log?
2010-10-09 19:43 <ciupicri> no, only INFOs
2010-10-09 19:43 <ciupicri> cedk, http://fpaste.org/5wN2/
2010-10-09 19:45 <cedk> ciupicri: the modules are not found
2010-10-09 19:45 <cedk> ciupicri: but you should not mix installed and non-installed python module
2010-10-09 19:46 <cedk> ciupicri: if you want to work with installed trytond then install also modules
2010-10-09 19:46 <ciupicri> cedk, there are no Fedora14 RPMs for the extra modules
2010-10-09 19:46 <cedk> ciupicri: so work with only source module without any installed
2010-10-09 19:47 <ciupicri> all I have is tryton trytond trytond-mysql trytond-openoffice trytond-pgsql trytond-sqlite trytond-webdav
2010-10-09 19:47 <cedk> ciupicri: what is the ouput of ls -l /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/trytond/modules
2010-10-09 19:48 <ciupicri> cedk, damn... the root home directory is not accessible to others
2010-10-09 19:50 <ciupicri> cedk, the symlinks where pointing to /root/3rdpar...
2010-10-09 19:50 <cedk> ciupicri: you should try to ask to fedora guys to create modules packages otherwise the current packages are not very useful
2010-10-09 19:50 <ciupicri> cedk, I fully agree
2010-10-09 19:50 <cedk> ciupicri: I guess the user that run trytond doesn't have access to the root directory
2010-10-09 19:51 <ciupicri> cedk, yes, it uses a separate user - tryton
2010-10-09 19:52 <ciupicri> one more thing: if a module fails to load (missing python library) shouldn't the tryton server still start?
2010-10-09 19:52 <cedk> ciupicri: no
2010-10-09 19:53 <ciupicri> I don't see it like a fatal error, that's why I'm asking
2010-10-09 19:53 <cedk> ciupicri: so I encourage to only install modules that are needed
2010-10-09 19:53 <cedk> ciupicri: there is some exception like vatnumber for party
2010-10-09 19:53 <cedk> but they are defined as extra requirement in setup.py
2010-10-09 19:54 <ciupicri> cedk, I haven't got to that one, yet; I'm still at DAV
2010-10-09 19:56 <ciupicri> cedk, this one? [Sat Oct 09 20:55:42 2010] WARNING:party:Unable to import vatnumber. VAT number validation disabled.
2010-10-09 19:58 <cedk> ciupicri: yes
2010-10-09 20:02 <gavinf> cedk: got it sorted, thanks, wasn't logged in as admin user! then I figured out how to click through to install modules, working nicely now.
2010-10-09 20:03 <cedk> gavinf: well :-)
2010-10-09 20:03 <gavinf> cedk: one question though, how do I add extra fields to models. e.g. a company in South Africa has to have a registration number, and I want to add bank account / payment details
2010-10-09 20:04 <cedk> gavinf: the good way is to write a module
2010-10-09 20:04 <cedk> gavinf: you can see http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HelloWorld
2010-10-09 20:06 <gavinf> cedk: then use it instead of the existing module?
2010-10-09 20:06 <cedk> gavinf: no, modules allow to extend models
2010-10-09 20:07 <cedk> gavinf: then you can add new fields to models from other modules
2010-10-09 20:08 <gavinf> ok I'll give it a go
2010-10-09 20:23 <ciupicri> are there any tryton guides for a small shop/reseller?
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2010-10-09 23:04 <cedk> mutt
2010-10-09 23:09 <gavinf> there's a bug in the bug-reporting system: the link in the confirmation email when registering throws an error "global name 'urllib' is not defined"
2010-10-09 23:12 <cedk> gavinf: I see nothing in the logs
2010-10-09 23:16 <gavinf> registration by reply email worked, but the weblink definitely didn't..."global urllib = undefined, global _quote = undefined, message = 'You are now registered, welcome!'"
2010-10-09 23:17 <cedk> gavinf: could you give the complete error message
2010-10-09 23:18 <gavinf> too many lines for irc i think - by email?
2010-10-09 23:19 <cedk> gavinf: seems to be http://issues.roundup-tracker.org/issue2550665
2010-10-09 23:21 <gavinf> ok
2010-10-09 23:22 <cedk> gavinf: fixed
2010-10-09 23:42 <gavinf> i am struggling to view an invoice as an odt - how do i do that?

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