IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2010-11-16 #tryton log beginning Tue Nov 16 00:00:04 CET 2010
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2010-11-16 06:26 <sdistefano> hi everyone ; if I need to add a field to an existing model, what's the easiest way to do that
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2010-11-16 09:12 <sdistefano> I'm getting hangs on the client now if I try to add a new record after I extended the model
2010-11-16 09:13 <sdistefano> even removing the extension doesn't seem to help ; client will hang and I get NameError: name 'company' is not defined
2010-11-16 09:13 <sdistefano> if I try to do it trough the API ; any ideas?
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2010-11-16 11:00 <gordon_geeko> is it possible to get the cursor and user in __init__ of a model?
2010-11-16 11:01 <cedk> gordon_geeko: no
2010-11-16 11:01 <cedk> gordon_geeko: __init__ is independant of the database
2010-11-16 11:01 <cedk> gordon_geeko: what do you want to do?
2010-11-16 11:02 <gordon_geeko> cedk: set a field domain filter upon initialization
2010-11-16 11:02 <gordon_geeko> cedk: based on a function
2010-11-16 11:03 <gordon_geeko> cedk: i was looking at doing a copy of field and setting domain via field.domain.append
2010-11-16 11:04 <cedk> gordon_geeko: based on which function?
2010-11-16 11:04 <gordon_geeko> cedk: custom for returning a list of ids from another object
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2010-11-16 11:07 <cedk> gordon_geeko: need to get more informations but I guess you can do it with dynamic domain (PYSON)
2010-11-16 11:10 <gordon_geeko> cedk: something like is done in _action_open_reconcile_lines of
2010-11-16 11:18 <cedk> gordon_geeko: i think you must create a function field on the target model that will be used for domain constraint
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2010-11-16 11:34 <gordon_geeko> cedk: is down?
2010-11-16 11:39 <cedk> gordon_geeko: I'm updating glibc for security
2010-11-16 11:40 <gordon_geeko> cedk: ah...
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2010-11-16 11:56 <cedk> gordon_geeko: back
2010-11-16 11:57 <cedk> I think I will need to stop hg and roundup to process the update
2010-11-16 11:57 <cedk> I will do it this night
2010-11-16 12:21 <gordon_geeko> cedk: the function fields used in a domain must be in the view?
2010-11-16 12:25 <cedk> gordon_geeko: you must put in depend of the field
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2010-11-16 13:44 <lem0na> cedk: found some duplicates on tryton.pot -> #: tryton/gui/window/ and #: tryton/gui/window/ tryton/gui/window/, #: tryton/gui/window/
2010-11-16 13:45 <yangoon> lem0na: probably not duplicates, but multiple occurencies
2010-11-16 13:46 <lem0na> yangoon: yes - but i think they should be grouped in one resource
2010-11-16 13:46 <lem0na> yangoon: or am I wrong?
2010-11-16 13:47 <yangoon> lem0na: same occurrence doesn't necessarily mean same meaning
2010-11-16 13:47 <yangoon> could be that you need differentiated translation for some language
2010-11-16 13:49 <lem0na> yangoon:
2010-11-16 13:49 <lem0na> yangoon: the diffrence in one word but the meaning is the same
2010-11-16 13:51 <yangoon> lem0na: yes, they are the dialogs resp. in dbcreate and dbrestore
2010-11-16 13:51 <lem0na> yangoon: did they do not mean the same thing?
2010-11-16 13:51 <yangoon> the software cannot know if the meaning of the same sentence is always the same
2010-11-16 13:52 <yangoon> example: sequence
2010-11-16 13:52 <yangoon> can be in german: Sequenz, Reihenfolge, Nummernkreis
2010-11-16 13:53 <yangoon> so you must have the possibilty to translate each single one
2010-11-16 13:53 <lem0na> yangoon: maybe i am worng - i thing this two msgid's meant the same and can be combined
2010-11-16 13:54 <yangoon> lem0na: could be
2010-11-16 13:54 <gordon_geeko> what am i missing when i use a function field in a domain and get the error "function object at ... is not JSON serializable"?
2010-11-16 13:54 <lem0na> yangoon: and about seaquence - i realase that i have forgotten german - have not speak it over 20 years :(
2010-11-16 13:59 <cedk> gordon_geeko: copy/paste the code somewhere
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2010-11-16 14:04 <sdistefano> I'm trying to change a view - without success. I could modify the model fields but my XML seems to be ignored
2010-11-16 14:05 <sdistefano> is <record model="ir.ui.view" id="party_view_tree"> in my custom module not enough?
2010-11-16 14:05 <cedk> sdistefano: copy/paste the xml in soem website
2010-11-16 14:06 <sdistefano> sorry!
2010-11-16 14:06 <sdistefano> here it is
2010-11-16 14:08 <cedk> sdistefano: you must use xpath syntax in CDATA part
2010-11-16 14:09 <sdistefano> cedk: it's tryton 1.4 ; and I copied it from the module
2010-11-16 14:09 <cedk> sdistefano: like
2010-11-16 14:09 <gordon_geeko> cedk:
2010-11-16 14:10 <sdistefano> is that valid for 1.4?
2010-11-16 14:10 <cedk> sdistefano: yes
2010-11-16 14:11 <cedk> gordon_geeko: this should work
2010-11-16 14:12 <sdistefano> cedk: still no change ; but I understand now, I'm trying to use a field that is in the addresses one2m
2010-11-16 14:12 <sdistefano> cedk: is it possible to use the output a function there? so that I can take the first address and display the info I need
2010-11-16 14:12 <cedk> gordon_geeko: be carefull that it is not good to store data on Model like you do with _current_periods
2010-11-16 14:13 <cedk> sdistefano: for city?
2010-11-16 14:14 <sdistefano> cedk: yes
2010-11-16 14:14 <cedk> sdistefano: you can see
2010-11-16 14:16 <cedk> gordon_geeko: you can use the Cache decorator
2010-11-16 14:16 <sdistefano> cedk: I don't understand
2010-11-16 14:16 <sdistefano> oh sorry wrong line
2010-11-16 14:16 <sdistefano> I do understand
2010-11-16 14:17 <gordon_geeko> cedk: thx for the tips, but adding the Eval still gives the TypeError
2010-11-16 14:18 <cedk> gordon_geeko: yeps, I forget the default value
2010-11-16 14:19 <sdistefano> cedk: Dont, but still doesn't work ; no error msg either, just ignored
2010-11-16 14:21 <cedk> sdistefano: I don't understand
2010-11-16 14:21 <sdistefano> cedk: My new field on the view parties table is not there
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2010-11-16 14:28 <cedk> sdistefano: did you define the xml in the
2010-11-16 14:29 <sdistefano> cedk: I did
2010-11-16 14:30 <gordon_geeko> cedk: thx, no more error - but it seems the function is never called
2010-11-16 14:32 <cedk> gordon_geeko: depends must be list of string
2010-11-16 14:32 <cedk> sdistefano: coudl you copy/paste last version of xml?
2010-11-16 14:33 <sdistefano> cedk:
2010-11-16 14:35 <cedk> sdistefano: strange did you run a database update after change?
2010-11-16 14:36 <sdistefano> cedk: no ; thought it wasn't needed after adding a function
2010-11-16 14:37 <sdistefano> cedk: did it now
2010-11-16 14:37 <sdistefano> cedk: still not there
2010-11-16 14:38 <cedk> sdistefano: this is strange
2010-11-16 14:38 <Timitos> cedk: i also noticed things like this. it seems that it does not work in all cases
2010-11-16 14:38 <cedk> sdistefano: do you see your view in the admin menu
2010-11-16 14:38 <sdistefano> cedk: I'm trying to modify an existing view
2010-11-16 14:38 <Timitos> cedk: maybe it has to do with another module that extends the view too or something like that
2010-11-16 14:38 <sdistefano> cedk: the one that comes with Tryton's party module
2010-11-16 14:39 <sdistefano> cedk: and I'm checking the main list of Parties tryton has
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2010-11-16 14:40 <cedk> sdistefano: but I want to ensure that the view record is in the database
2010-11-16 14:40 <Timitos> cedk: in my case i saw the view in the admin view but it was not used. but the case was a little bit different. i tried to extend a view that was created by extension itself
2010-11-16 14:40 <cedk> Timitos: this is not a feature
2010-11-16 14:40 <sdistefano> cedk: what would the view name be?
2010-11-16 14:41 <sdistefano> cedk: I'm using party_view_tree whch was always there
2010-11-16 14:41 <sdistefano> cedk: should I use something else? ... I'm trying to monkey patch teh existing view, that was my though
2010-11-16 14:42 <Timitos> cedk: you mean: this is not possible? ok
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2010-11-16 14:45 <cedk> Timitos: yes inherit only work on non-inherit view
2010-11-16 14:46 <cedk> sdistefano: there is no name on view
2010-11-16 14:46 <sdistefano> cedk: I mean i
2010-11-16 14:46 <sdistefano> id
2010-11-16 14:47 <Timitos> cedk: i had a case where i needed to extend a view at a field position i could only define with fields i already added by a inherit view. i something like this possible?
2010-11-16 14:49 <cedk> sdistefano: it is not deterministic
2010-11-16 14:49 <cedk> Timitos: yes
2010-11-16 14:50 <Timitos> cedk: it did not succeed when i tried this. maybe i need to play around with priority?
2010-11-16 14:50 <sdistefano> cedk: how do I find the view on the database then ; how can I identify it?
2010-11-16 14:52 <cedk> sdistefano: search by model
2010-11-16 14:52 <sdistefano> cedk: not there
2010-11-16 14:54 <sdistefano> cedk: sorry, it IS there
2010-11-16 14:57 <cedk> sdistefano: so it is strange
2010-11-16 14:58 <cedk> sdistefano: no error message on server log?
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2010-11-16 14:58 <sdistefano> cedk: just got one!
2010-11-16 14:58 <sdistefano> cedk:
2010-11-16 15:00 <cedk> sdistefano: it seems you did not correctly define function field
2010-11-16 15:00 <udono> sdistefano: how do you define 'city'on party?
2010-11-16 15:00 <sdistefano> cedk: city = fields.Function(fields.Char('city'), 'get_mechanism')
2010-11-16 15:01 <udono> sdistefano: is the *.py file imported in __init__
2010-11-16 15:02 <sdistefano> udono: it is
2010-11-16 15:03 <udono> sdistefano: may you paste the class where you define the above Function field (incl. get_mechanism)?
2010-11-16 15:04 <sdistefano> udono:
2010-11-16 15:05 <udono> sdistefano: so you need a method for 'get_mechanism'... def get_mechanism(): ...
2010-11-16 15:07 <sdistefano> udono: d'oh! I thought it came with the base class
2010-11-16 15:07 <sdistefano> udono: sec
2010-11-16 15:07 <udono> sdistefano: but there is already a def get_mechanism on
2010-11-16 15:08 <udono> sdistefano: so better not overwrite it. Maybe write an own getter like 'get_city' or 'get_first_address_city'
2010-11-16 15:09 <udono> sdistefano: yas, it comes with the base_class, but you need a getter, which provides a string, because fields.Char expect it (city = fields.Function(fields.Char...)
2010-11-16 15:10 <sdistefano> udono: tried
2010-11-16 15:10 <sdistefano> same error
2010-11-16 15:11 <gordon_geeko> cedk: the function fields are never called!
2010-11-16 15:12 <udono> sdistefano: is it on a new database too?
2010-11-16 15:13 <sdistefano> udono: relatively new tryton 1.4
2010-11-16 15:14 <udono> sdistefano: Tryt to create a new database with your module. Sometimes it helps in development.
2010-11-16 15:14 <cedk> gordon_geeko: did you fix also global_periods?
2010-11-16 15:15 <sdistefano> udono: ok, I can't try that right now ; but I have a few more questions about tryton in general
2010-11-16 15:15 <sdistefano> udono: do you have 5 mnutes?
2010-11-16 15:15 <udono> sdistefano: just ask
2010-11-16 15:16 <gordon_geeko> cedk:yes,
2010-11-16 15:16 <sdistefano> k ; 1) if I want to remove fields from a view with my override, how do I do that?
2010-11-16 15:16 <udono> sdistefano: with xpath. But pay attention if they are required
2010-11-16 15:17 <sdistefano> udono: but in the list view it wouldn't matter, right?
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2010-11-16 15:18 <udono> sdistefano: They are handled separated, see gordon_geeko s paste he adds a field in a tree view...
2010-11-16 15:19 <udono> sdistefano: sorry, was your paste...
2010-11-16 15:19 <cedk> gordon_geeko: I don't see. Could you try by putting the fields in the view
2010-11-16 15:20 <udono> sdistefano: for each view id you need to define your modifications.
2010-11-16 15:20 <sdistefano> udono: ok thanks
2010-11-16 15:20 <sdistefano> my next question is much more ambitious
2010-11-16 15:20 <gordon_geeko> cedk: i did. they're also empty
2010-11-16 15:21 <sdistefano> we will need CRM features in the future ; especially being able to store e-mails so that sales people can see the entire e-mail history with any client
2010-11-16 15:21 <sdistefano> displaying attachments and allowing to send e-mail as well would be desirable but not critical ; how feasible does this sound?
2010-11-16 15:22 <cedk> gordon_geeko: but it is called?
2010-11-16 15:23 <gordon_geeko> cedk: not once...
2010-11-16 15:23 <cedk> sdistefano: there is
2010-11-16 15:24 <cedk> gordon_geeko: don't you have duplicate methods?
2010-11-16 15:24 <sdistefano> will that also have a UI to see e-mail within tryton?
2010-11-16 15:25 <gordon_geeko> cedk: those 2 are nearly identical, but the only ones in the class
2010-11-16 15:27 <udono> sdistefano: I guess there will be some simple view in Tryton for emails like we have for calender. But in general we do not try to mimic already existing applications.
2010-11-16 15:27 <cedk> sdistefano: we thought about implementing a IMAP server
2010-11-16 15:27 <cedk> gordon_geeko: so it is very strange
2010-11-16 15:28 <sdistefano> Sure, I don't want an e-mail client ; just a way for people to see what e-mails anyone has sent before
2010-11-16 15:28 <sdistefano> (in a central location) ; is this in active development? When is it expected to be ready?
2010-11-16 15:29 <udono> sdistefano: afaik sharoon is working on this. I do not know when it is finished.
2010-11-16 15:30 <sdistefano> I see
2010-11-16 15:31 <sdistefano> by the way, I fixed the problem ; it's just that in 1.4 the Function system is completely diffeerent
2010-11-16 15:31 <bechamel> gordon_geeko: I don't see any "Move()" at the end of, is it missing in your code or in the paste ?
2010-11-16 15:31 <udono> sdistefano: ouch, sorry have not recognized that you used 1.4
2010-11-16 15:34 <gordon_geeko> bechamel: no, i only pasted the first part
2010-11-16 15:35 <sdistefano> I see ; one minor thing is that there is no label for it on the list
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2010-11-16 15:35 <sdistefano> any quick fix forthat?
2010-11-16 15:36 <cedk> sdistefano: string="..."
2010-11-16 15:36 <sdistefano> brilliant ; oh last thing
2010-11-16 15:36 <sdistefano> have you ever discussed integrating with something like SQLAlchemy?
2010-11-16 15:37 <gordon_geeko> ok, i messed things up - i upgraded the client to 1.6.1 but not the modules...
2010-11-16 15:37 <cedk> sdistefano: I started to analyse the possibility
2010-11-16 15:38 <sdistefano> cedk: sorry, string= seems to be only for <tree, not <field in 1.4
2010-11-16 15:38 <sdistefano> I see all other fields just have name="" and get a label
2010-11-16 15:41 <cedk> sdistefano: in the function field
2010-11-16 15:42 <sdistefano> yes!
2010-11-16 15:42 <sdistefano> thanks a lot
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2010-11-16 17:57 <pheller> I've forgotten, is there a way to invoke trytond such that it logs xmlrpc calls? I don't immediately see anything in the code for it, but for some reason I remember using this (maybe on OE)
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2010-11-16 19:15 <cedk> gordon_geeko: is it working now?
2010-11-16 19:21 <pheller> if I get a user object with proteus, how can I get its view_type, view_mode, etc....
2010-11-16 19:22 <pheller> e.g., demo = User.find(..... 'demo')[0], then user.action is a reference to an ir.action "Menu"
2010-11-16 19:22 <cedk> pheller: and so?
2010-11-16 19:23 <pheller> cedk: the resultant user.action doesn't seem to contain variables like "view_modes", "view_type", etc....
2010-11-16 19:24 <cedk> pheller: you must read the right Model depending of the type
2010-11-16 19:24 <pheller> cedk: ah ok, and menu doesn't have these variables.
2010-11-16 19:24 <pheller> I see
2010-11-16 19:25 <cedk> pheller: you got an ir.action which could be an act_window, report, wizard etc.
2010-11-16 19:25 <pheller> cedk: right... I'm trying to work through converting the OE text mode client, and how they handle a menu is not yet entirely clear to me.
2010-11-16 19:25 <pheller> cedk: I'll get it eventually :)
2010-11-16 19:29 <cedk> pheller: good news
2010-11-16 19:29 <cedk> pheller: I think one first thing could be to split it in many files :-)
2010-11-16 19:30 <cedk> pheller: it is one main usage of proteus
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2010-11-16 20:37 <pheller> anyone know which object will have the "fields_view_get" method within proteus?
2010-11-16 20:50 <udono> pheller: in tests/test_tryton.p it is called like this: res = model_obj.fields_view_get(view_id) maybe this helps?!
2010-11-16 20:55 <pheller> udono: yes, but I'm trying to figure out what type of object "model_obj" is.
2010-11-16 20:57 <cedk> pheller: the method is on every Model
2010-11-16 20:58 <pheller> hmmh, I don't see it with dir(object) in proteus.... perhaps there is no object introspection through the proxy?
2010-11-16 21:01 <pheller> cedk: ok ok, it is closer to working now...
2010-11-16 21:01 <pheller> cedk: i make a call like obj.fields_view_get([])
2010-11-16 21:02 <pheller> cedk: but I get a traceback..
2010-11-16 21:02 <pheller> File "/Volumes/Data/Users/pheller/Projects/tryton/server/trunk/trytond/model/", line 644, in fields_get
2010-11-16 21:02 <pheller> language = Transaction().context.get('language') or 'en_US'
2010-11-16 21:02 <pheller> AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'get'
2010-11-16 21:05 <udono> pheller: it looks like it expected one id
2010-11-16 21:08 <pheller> udono: ok, I just print Transaction().context in the server before this traceback, and the context is an empty list, rather than a dictionary
2010-11-16 21:10 <pheller> udono: d'oh. my mistake
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2010-11-16 21:39 <cedk> pheller: I think I will improve "classmethod" call in proteus
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2010-11-16 22:28 <pheller> ok, modifying this text mode client is an endeavor that will take more than a few hours :-)
2010-11-16 22:37 <cedk> pheller: you should perhaps just draw from
2010-11-16 22:37 <pheller> cedk: yes, I think that is probably a better idea...
2010-11-16 22:42 <cedk> pheller: one secret goal will be to have any GUI lib client built on top of proteus
2010-11-16 22:42 <cedk> pheller: this will include the GTK one
2010-11-16 22:42 <pheller> cedk: that is a perfect goal, I think
2010-11-16 22:43 <pheller> cedk: same for the web client?
2010-11-16 22:43 <cedk> pheller: when pyjamas will be strong enough
2010-11-16 22:45 <pheller> cedk: so the other webclient that had been started will not go any further then?
2010-11-16 22:45 <pheller> cedk: it will be done instead with pyjamas?
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2010-11-16 22:46 <cedk> pheller: no, I think right now GWT is the best choice
2010-11-16 22:46 <cedk> pheller: pyjamas is just a port of GWT from Java to Python
2010-11-16 22:47 <cedk> pheller: so it will not be a big deal to migrate later
2010-11-16 22:47 <pheller> cedk: ah, ok, I see. how far along is the gwt initiative?
2010-11-16 22:47 <cedk> pheller: pyjamas guys have script to convert Google Java code into Python
2010-11-16 22:48 <cedk> pheller: for now it is stuck
2010-11-16 22:48 <pheller> cedk: ah ha
2010-11-16 22:48 <cedk> pheller: not engough resources. So I think it is not a major priority
2010-11-16 22:49 <pheller> cedk: agreed, I think it's better to finish many of the things that are in the bug tracker first, and the existing roadmap things
2010-11-16 22:49 <cedk> pheller: almost all customer I saw with Tryton or OE was going for GTK client
2010-11-16 22:50 <cedk> pheller: soa was more a POC to show the direction if someone want to continue it or found it
2010-11-16 22:50 <cedk> yes by the way I should create the roadmap for next release
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2010-11-16 22:55 <gordon_geeko> not having a web client is a major issue for where i work
2010-11-16 22:56 <pheller> gordon_geeko: as in a "full" replacement for the gtk client?
2010-11-16 22:56 <pheller> gordon_geeko: or just something purpose built for a few things...
2010-11-16 22:58 <gordon_geeko> pheller: basically yes, having apps in the web browser is the goal
2010-11-16 22:59 <gordon_geeko> pheller: to unify things in a way
2010-11-16 22:59 <cedk> gordon_geeko: you get people not working from their workstation?
2010-11-16 23:01 <gordon_geeko> cedk: sure, they'll have a pc - but the idea is to have everything accessible from one browser
2010-11-16 23:01 <pheller> cedk: it is generally true also at my company that we don't use applications with thick clients any more. just about everything we use, except office suite and mail, is a web application
2010-11-16 23:01 <cedk> but I hope guys, you see that it is not logical
2010-11-16 23:02 <cedk> HTTP+HTML+Javascript is the worst stack for developing software :-)
2010-11-16 23:02 <gordon_geeko> cedk: it's also about integrating functionality - or if it's not true integration, at least creating the illusion
2010-11-16 23:03 <pheller> cedk: I don't mind using the thick client, but I'm not the one who always decides which applications are used. And I'm sad to say that the people who make the decisions often have silly requirements.
2010-11-16 23:03 <gordon_geeko> cedk: agree on that one
2010-11-16 23:03 <pheller> cedk, gordon_geeko: definitely agreed there.
2010-11-16 23:03 <cedk> gordon_geeko: for me, integration is not about having everything in one software but having softwares speaking to each others like we do with CalDAV, WebDAV and later IMAP
2010-11-16 23:04 <cedk> I know that for now Web2.0 is the *buzz* word
2010-11-16 23:05 <cedk> webbrowser is the new VT100 :-)
2010-11-16 23:05 <pheller> cedk: hah!
2010-11-16 23:05 <gordon_geeko> LOL
2010-11-16 23:07 <cedk> gordon_geeko: but I know that for merketing it will be better to have a webclient
2010-11-16 23:07 <cedk> and we got POC that proves it is doable
2010-11-16 23:07 <gordon_geeko> cedk: yes, it weights heavy
2010-11-16 23:08 <gordon_geeko> cedk: the choice for us is between tryton and developing from scratch - the latter using a web application framework
2010-11-16 23:09 <cedk> gordon_geeko: you can develop a web application with Tryton
2010-11-16 23:10 <gordon_geeko> cedk: what's POC?
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2010-11-16 23:10 <pheller> proof of concept
2010-11-16 23:10 <cedk> POC = Proof Of Concept
2010-11-16 23:10 <gordon_geeko> ah
2010-11-16 23:11 <cedk> by the way, sharoon from openlabs also think about webclient
2010-11-16 23:11 <gordon_geeko> i'm leaning towards tryton and sponsoring a web client
2010-11-16 23:11 <gordon_geeko> it can't be that hard, you've already got the proper infrastructure for it
2010-11-16 23:12 <cedk> gordon_geeko: yes, soa can already talk to the server (need some update for working with 1.8)
2010-11-16 23:12 <pheller> gordon_geeko: ... especially with proteus finally coming up to speed
2010-11-16 23:12 <cedk> gordon_geeko: and tree view is almost working
2010-11-16 23:13 <cedk> gordon_geeko: next big step will be the form view
2010-11-16 23:16 <pheller> time to go home. too much work for one day. good night!
2010-11-16 23:17 <cedk> pheller: bye
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