IRC logs of #tryton for Saturday, 2010-12-25

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sat Dec 25 00:00:01 CET 2010
2010-12-25 01:37 <plantian> Why are sale lines that contain negative quantities not included in invoices? I see some code that ignores them but what is the business reason for doing so ?
2010-12-25 01:57 <cedk> plantian: what is a negative sale line?
2010-12-25 02:13 <plantian> cedk: A sale line with a quantity that is negative.
2010-12-25 02:14 <plantian> I use negative quantities to try to implement discounts for customers that return packaging. I have talked about it before but I cannot figure out what/where to customize in order to solve the problem.
2010-12-25 02:17 <cedk> plantian: I think you should handle with separate lines
2010-12-25 02:27 <plantian> cedk: The quantity is actually negative though although here it looks like hte unit price is negative -- http://www.laspilitas.com/tryton/sale-container.jpg http://www.laspilitas.com/tryton/invoice-container.jpg
2010-12-25 02:29 <plantian> Also Merry Christmas by the way, although I'm not sure if its the 25th in Brussels yet.. or I guess I'm also not sure you're in Brussels.
2010-12-25 02:31 <cedk> plantian: yes but I think negative lines should generate return shipments and credit note
2010-12-25 02:37 <plantian> cedk: Okay so that would be a customization I would implement right?
2010-12-25 02:37 <plantian> Does it make sense to generate a return shipment for something that is not sold though ?
2010-12-25 02:38 <cedk> plantian: on sale it is product sold
2010-12-25 02:39 <plantian> Right, but we do not sell packaging we just gives discounts if we get packaging of product returned to us.(even if the packaging was not original sold by us too)
2010-12-25 02:39 <plantian> I think it would be similar to a glass milk bottle. It is sold with the milk in it but you give a discount if you get the glass bottle back so you can re-use it.
2010-12-25 02:40 <plantian> That is the business idea i'm trying to implement.
2010-12-25 02:42 <cedk> plantian: so it is sold products
2010-12-25 02:43 <plantian> cedk: Right the product must be salable.
2010-12-25 02:43 <plantian> I just consider a return shipment to be used for returning of merchandise that leaves the warehouse.
2010-12-25 02:45 <cedk> plantian: if you don't want to track product location then set it to service
2010-12-25 02:45 <cedk> plantian: any way, patches that will add the management of negative lines in sale with a return shipment and credit note will be welcome
2010-12-25 02:45 <cedk> plantian: the same for purchase
2010-12-25 02:48 <plantian> cedk: Okay I will start issue of type feature and begin sending patches tomorrow night or Sunday. Thanks for all the help.
2010-12-25 02:49 <plantian> cedk: Also if you come back to this, that issue I thought I had with relatorio wasn't a problem with relatorio at all it was my mistake.
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2010-12-25 12:35 <btQuark> i wonder if tryton is usable for inventor-creation and maintenance too
2010-12-25 12:35 <btQuark> inventory
2010-12-25 12:36 <btQuark> the wikipedia-article says so
2010-12-25 12:37 <cedk> btQuark: there is stock module that allow to manage inventory
2010-12-25 12:39 <btQuark> cedk sounds good
2010-12-25 12:41 <cedk> btQuark: Tryton is a framework so it comes with most basic block for business application but it can require customization so it provide an easy way to customize it
2010-12-25 12:43 <btQuark> seems like that would need me to learn python?
2010-12-25 12:43 <cedk> btQuark: yes
2010-12-25 12:43 <cedk> btQuark: but Python is quiet easy
2010-12-25 12:43 <btQuark> jup, heard so
2010-12-25 12:44 <cedk> btQuark: here is a good starting point http://learnpythonthehardway.org/index
2010-12-25 12:44 <btQuark> thanks, anyway - as far as i saw, the accounting module seemed pretty sound for small/medium use
2010-12-25 12:45 <btQuark> i'ld need to get used to tryton first anyway
2010-12-25 12:46 <cedk> btQuark: yes it provides solid basement for building a more complex (tools for) accounting
2010-12-25 13:48 <btQuark> cedk what do you think about adempiere?
2010-12-25 14:04 <cedk> btQuark: I never test it
2010-12-25 14:04 <btQuark> ok, it seemed featurerich, anyhow the wiki and the webinterface qualified as horrible mess
2010-12-25 14:05 <cedk> btQuark: but I think that it doesn't allow as easy custumization than Tryton
2010-12-25 14:05 <btQuark> which is a thing i cannot say about the gui or webui of tryton or openerp (i actually liked the webui of the latter)
2010-12-25 14:05 <cedk> btQuark: it seems they take the same way than SAP
2010-12-25 14:06 <btQuark> sell themselves as a weapon of mass company destruction ;)
2010-12-25 14:06 <btQuark> ?
2010-12-25 14:06 <cedk> btQuark: a lot of features and so difficult to configure
2010-12-25 14:06 <cedk> btQuark: in Tryton we try to follow KISS
2010-12-25 14:07 <btQuark> although i am capable of java and the technologies they use, the wiki did not enlighten me about anything other than being scared
2010-12-25 14:07 <btQuark> yay. seems good
2010-12-25 14:10 <cedk> btQuark: and dynamic typed language like Python allow to have more flexibility in the custumization process
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