| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu May 26 00:00:02 CEST 2011 | ||
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| 2011-05-26 01:20 <sharoon> cedk_: i was just thinking about what you said about the long transactions and the sequence | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:21 <sharoon> cedk_: it will still not work for openerp http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openerp/openobject-server/6.0/view/head:/bin/addons/base/ir/ir_sequence.py#L96 | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:21 <cedk_> sharoon: why? | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:22 <sharoon> cedk_: because of the NOWAIT | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:22 <sharoon> cedk_: see this test case https://bitbucket.org/openlabs/sequence-postgres/src/519cba18d85f/tests/test_sequence.py#cl-149 | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:24 <cedk_> sharoon: of course you can still have concurrent transaction | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:24 <cedk_> sharoon: but this danger is always there | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:24 <cedk_> sharoon: you can just reduce the probability but minimize the duration of transactions | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:24 <sharoon> cedk_: not in the case of tryton because concurrent transaction will wait for the transaction with the lock to commit | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:25 <sharoon> cedk_: in the case of openerp it does not wait but just fails | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:25 <sharoon> cedk_: and they are happy about it and of late shows messages like "Could not complete Operation, but might succeeed if you try again" | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:27 <cedk_> sharoon: no it will also fail on Tryton because of the serial transaction | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:28 <sharoon> cedk_: got it | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:29 <sharoon> cedk_: postgres documentation suggests that we should attempt a retry of the request in such a case... think its feasible ? | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:29 <cedk_> sharoon: yes I already thought about having a loop in the dispatcher in case of concurrency error | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:30 <sharoon> cedk_: having it in the dispatcher will still cause issues for application which access tryton as a module ? | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:30 <cedk> sharoon: then they should manage themself | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:31 <sharoon> cedk: maybe we can have it in the __exit__ clause of the transaction ? | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:31 <sharoon> cedk: nope | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:31 <sharoon> cedk: my idea work work, because there woul dbe no retry | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:31 <cedk> sharoon: you don't know what to run in __exit__ | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:32 <sharoon> cedk: it can only work at the level of dispatcher since dispatcher can remember what was the call and the arguments | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:32 <sharoon> cedk: it would be equivalent to starting from beginning | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:32 <sharoon> cedk: is there an issue already about this case ? | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:33 <sharoon> cedk: issue == roundup issue | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:33 <cedk> sharoon: I don't think | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:34 <cedk> sharoon: going to bed | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:34 <sharoon> cedk: shall i report an issue an i can propose a decorator for the problem ? | ||
| 2011-05-26 01:34 <sharoon> cedk: bye, good night | ||
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| 2011-05-26 11:45 <hoRn> hi all | ||
| 2011-05-26 11:46 <tshepang> ello | ||
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| 2011-05-26 11:48 <hoRn> I was playing arround with 'unoconv' in convert_pdf for the reports - 10 times faster than the oo-way | ||
| 2011-05-26 11:49 <cedk> hoRn: have you links ? | ||
| 2011-05-26 11:50 <hoRn> http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/unoconv/ | ||
| 2011-05-26 11:53 <hoRn> cedk: it's realy fast - i have a report with about 15 barcodes on it - my machine was going crazy ;) | ||
| 2011-05-26 11:53 <hoRn> cedk: quick and dirty: http://pastie.org/1975433 | ||
| 2011-05-26 11:56 <hoRn> cedk: and it supports a lot of output-formats as well | ||
| 2011-05-26 11:58 <cedk> hoRn: I will be happy to drop openoffice-python dependency | ||
| 2011-05-26 11:58 <cedk> and see an implementation that will allow more format | ||
| 2011-05-26 12:00 <hoRn> cedk: whats the licence of this unoconv - will take a look ... | ||
| 2011-05-26 12:01 <cedk> hoRn: GPL-2 | ||
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| 2011-05-26 12:02 <hoRn> cedk: looks promising | ||
| 2011-05-26 12:07 <cedk> hoRn: could you create an issue about that | ||
| 2011-05-26 12:07 <hoRn> cedk: yes | ||
| 2011-05-26 12:13 <hoRn> cedk: in the tracker or in the list? | ||
| 2011-05-26 12:13 <cedk> hoRn: I guess the best is on roundup and inform tryton-dev@ | ||
| 2011-05-26 12:14 <hoRn> cedk: ok | ||
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| 2011-05-26 13:10 <cedk> ACTION review his own patches | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:11 <cedk> http://codereview.tryton.org/35007/ | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:15 <tshepang> cedk, was wondering about that | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:15 <tshepang> the patches | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:18 <cedk> tshepang: ??? | ||
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| 2011-05-26 13:26 <tshepang> u do a lot of patches and submit them fro code review, and I often wonder if people r helping review them | ||
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| 2011-05-26 13:38 <tshepang> cedk, "But you can not have the same code running for Python 2 and Python 3 if I'm right" | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:38 <tshepang> actually u can | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:38 <tshepang> u'll just hav to do future imports | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:39 <tshepang> and a bunch of try excepts | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:45 <cedk> tshepang: we will use 2to3 | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:46 <tshepang> that's a cleaner approach | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:47 <tshepang> it would be extra nice if the code is such that that's the only change that will be needed in order to port to Py3k | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:47 <cedk> tshepang: we will work on that | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:47 <tshepang> where 2to3 fails, there's still try except to the rescue | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:47 <cedk> tshepang: it seems there is few py3 warbibg | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:47 <tshepang> huh? | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:49 <tshepang> cedk, warbibg? | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:56 <udono> tshepang: typo for warning :-) | ||
| 2011-05-26 13:56 <tshepang> oh | ||
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| 2011-05-26 13:58 <tshepang> do Tryton tests have full coverage? | ||
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| 2011-05-26 14:02 <hoRn> seems there is a total #skype crash worldwide ;) | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:04 <hoRn> MS had put some enhancements? | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:07 <udono> tshepang: unfortunately not. But you can find tests here: http://hg2.tryton.org/trytond/file/0fb7dff0e74b/trytond/tests and module specific tests in each module. | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:09 <tshepang> udono, thanks, but I actually got a checkout locally | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:10 <tshepang> I asked partly because a Py3k migration really ought to have excellent coverage, especially for non-trivial code like that of Tryton | ||
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| 2011-05-26 14:10 <tshepang> else that there would be surprising failures all over the place | ||
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| 2011-05-26 14:10 <tshepang> many of these r non-obvious | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:11 <tshepang> coverage doesn't hav to be complete | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:11 <tshepang> some stuff is hard to test | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:11 <tshepang> ...with unit tests | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:16 <udono> tshepang: ok, understand. | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:20 <cedk> hoRn: use ekiga | ||
| 2011-05-26 14:20 <hoRn> rm ~/.Skype/shared.xml | ||
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| 2011-05-26 16:40 <hoRn> if I start to add a new One2Many from widget - is there a possibility to get the information which is the active_id from which the dialog was opened? | ||
| 2011-05-26 16:41 <hoRn> need some informations about the state of the data to which I add the One2Many | ||
| 2011-05-26 16:54 <cedk> hoRn: with "_parent_<field name>.<field name>" | ||
| 2011-05-26 16:54 <cedk> hoRn: look at the SaleLine | ||
| 2011-05-26 16:55 <hoRn> cedk: ok - thank you | ||
| 2011-05-26 16:56 <hoRn> cedk: was thinking if I have a deja vu or questioned this a couple of week ago ;) | ||
| 2011-05-26 16:57 <hoRn> cedk: cool - easy access to this information :-D | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:06 <sharoon> cedk: ping | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:07 <cedk> sharoon: pong | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:07 <sharoon> cedk: we discussed about the dispatcher level handling of errors when serialised cursors have transaction issues | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:08 <sharoon> cedk: any test written for the dispatcher will cause a commit - is that acceptable for the test suite ? | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:09 <cedk> sharoon: why not | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:09 <sharoon> cedk https://gist.github.com/993335 | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:11 <sharoon> cedk: test0020 blows up with SQLite ProgrammingError: SQLite objects created in a thread can only be used in that same thread.The object was created in thread id 140735076813984 and this is thread id 4373352448 | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:12 <sharoon> cedk: this is the full traceback http://paste.pocoo.org/show/395639/ | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:15 <cedk> sharoon: it is strange | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:17 <sharoon> cedk: do you think its an issue ? and it is a problem that none of our test suites are infact testing for concurrent execution (which is the real world scenario) | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:18 <cedk> sharoon: I understand the issue | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:18 <sharoon> cedk: well i dont knwo if that is what unit test is supposed to do or is it some other level of tests | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:18 <sharoon> cedk: ok | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:18 <cedk> sharoon: it is because we used in unittest a memory Sqlite database | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:19 <cedk> sharoon: and memory sqlite database can not be shared throught threads | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:19 <sharoon> cedk: got it! | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:19 <cedk> sharoon: so Database return always the same instance for :memory: | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:19 <cedk> sharoon: you should use an other database name for this test | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:19 <sharoon> cedk got it | ||
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| 2011-05-26 17:58 <meanmicio> Hello... just checking in, while working on MEDICAL in Tryton | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:59 <nicoe> meanmicio: hello luis | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:59 <meanmicio> hi nicolas | ||
| 2011-05-26 17:59 <nicoe> meanmicio: just a note, the vim command I sent you yesterday left the ',' at the end of the line | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:00 <meanmicio> ? never got it... let me check | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:01 <nicoe> meanmicio: I sent it yesterday via twitter | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:02 <meanmicio> Ah, ok. I use identi.ca most of the time. The messages show on twitter via identi.ca , but rarely I log in.. let me check | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:03 <nicoe> If you are an identica use so am I ! what is your id there ? | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:04 <meanmicio> meanmicio | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:05 <meanmicio> great | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:06 <cedk> meanmicio: ready for some remarks on medical :-) | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:06 <meanmicio> yes :) | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:07 <cedk> meanmicio: it is good to follow PEP8 | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:07 <cedk> meanmicio: like CamelCase for class | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:07 <cedk> meanmicio: no space func and ( | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:08 <cedk> meanmicio: 80cols | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:08 <cedk> next point | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:08 <meanmicio> ok | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:08 <cedk> _inherit doesn't exist in Tryton | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:09 <cedk> just use the same _name | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:10 <meanmicio> ok. It does in the views though, right ? | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:10 <cedk> meanmicio: you can drop size on Char field in most cases | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:11 <cedk> meanmicio: it does what? | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:11 <meanmicio> inherit views | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:12 <meanmicio> I used it already | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:12 <cedk> meanmicio: yes did not yet check XML | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:12 <meanmicio> ok | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:13 <meanmicio> works just fine | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:13 <cedk> meanmicio: also I'm not sure you use 4 spaces for indent | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:13 <meanmicio> I'm using tabs | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:13 <cedk> meanmicio: ohohoh | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:14 <nicoe> meanmicio: ouch .... tabs instead of spaces (let's not start a flamewar) | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:14 <meanmicio> :) | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:15 <cedk> also we try to avoid putting _id on Many2One fields | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:15 <cedk> because when you make a BrowseRecord, it has no meaning | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:15 <meanmicio> ok. | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:16 <cedk> next topic: the party.address | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:16 <meanmicio> yes | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:16 <cedk> I saw that you add relationship on address | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:17 <meanmicio> keep on talking... I'm putting something to eat | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:17 <meanmicio> brb | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:17 <cedk> I'm not sure this is the right place | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:19 <cedk> meanmicio: the address in Tryton is a real address and nothing more | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:19 <cedk> in OE, I know that it is often used for person | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:22 <meanmicio> ok, then probably we sould use the contact information on the contact mechanisms | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:23 <meanmicio> Relative : information | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:23 <meanmicio> Patient relative, I mean | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:24 <meanmicio> But is good to have the address of the relatives there | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:24 <cedk> meanmicio: I don't know because I don't understand what is "Patine relative" | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:24 <meanmicio> his or her friends and family members | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:26 <cedk> meanmicio: ok I think it should be stored on the Party | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:26 <cedk> this makes me think about talk we had for a module called party_relation | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:28 <cedk> but the module is not yet developped | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:29 <meanmicio> ok. | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:30 <cedk> meanmicio: indeed the difficulty of this relation between party is to manage the reverse one | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:30 <cedk> if I'm the friend of some one, he is also my friend | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:30 <cedk> but their is some relation more complex | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:31 <cedk> if I'm the soon of some one, he is my father | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:31 <meanmicio> Yes. I have the family object, which can integrate it in the future... | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:31 <cedk> meanmicio: link? | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:31 <meanmicio> Since the idea is not only to know who is relative, but who lives in that household | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:32 <meanmicio> Not only for contact information, but for disease prevention and epidemiology | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:32 <cedk> meanmicio: ok so it is more to share the same party.address between parties | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:33 <meanmicio> But the main purpose in the address view today is to have a quick list of people that can be reached if need to be contacted. The family object is more complex | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:33 <meanmicio> Needs to be reviewed though | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:35 <meanmicio> Have to leave to work now. I will review and fit to the PEP8 guidelines the current code and all the following porting . | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:36 <cedk> meanmicio: ok, I will think about the relation issue | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:36 <meanmicio> Great. Will keep the IRC window open more often | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:37 <cedk> meanmicio: we are most of the time here | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:37 <meanmicio> very useful ! | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:37 <cedk> meanmicio: and we talk | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:37 <cedk> meanmicio: it is not like somewhere else that I will not name :-) | ||
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| 2011-05-26 18:37 <meanmicio> ;-) | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:38 <meanmicio> BTW, quite fast uploading of medical procedures ! impressive. Great performance and little memory consumption ! Great job. | ||
| 2011-05-26 18:39 <meanmicio> bbl | ||
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| 2011-05-26 20:22 <plantian> Hi, I'm seeing these errors messages when building the docs: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/395722/ it seems that maybe the syntax is :meth: instead of :method:. Do other people see these errors? It might just be my sphinx is too new. | ||
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| 2011-05-26 22:11 <hoRn> every 2 weeks I get dumb with pyson ;( - could be my brain get's to old | ||
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| 2011-05-26 22:23 <hoRn> got it - everytimes my model is a mess ;( | ||
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