IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2012-11-16

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Fri Nov 16 00:00:02 CET 2012
2012-11-16 09:52 <sealibora> hello
2012-11-16 09:56 <sealibora> i'm responsible for a small eletronics' factories supply chain management
2012-11-16 09:56 <sealibora> and i'm trying to use tryton to build it
2012-11-16 09:57 <shomon> cool
2012-11-16 09:57 <sealibora> i have over 10 years of programming experience and about 5 years of it is with python
2012-11-16 09:57 <sealibora> so no problem if i have to implement some of it myself
2012-11-16 09:58 <shomon> I program python too but most of my troubles with tryton are that connections cut every 5 minutes so serious work is not possible
2012-11-16 09:58 <shomon> apparently people don't use tryton over adsl lines
2012-11-16 09:58 <sealibora> so my question: is there something to look for inspiration ?
2012-11-16 09:59 <shomon> get the skeleton module documentation or just alter existing ones to do what you need them to do
2012-11-16 10:00 <sealibora> i noticed there is something called product_electronic in openerp, is it sensible to look at that ?
2012-11-16 10:00 <cedk> shomon: I use Tryton over ADSL and there is no problem about disconnection
2012-11-16 10:01 <cedk> sealibora: this module from OpenERP, just adds some fields on the product
2012-11-16 10:01 <shomon> it's so wierd.. :S
2012-11-16 10:01 <cedk> sealibora: so it depends of your needs
2012-11-16 10:01 <sealibora> basicly i need to add some fields to product, i was looking at product_measurements how to do it
2012-11-16 10:01 <cedk> sealibora: just try with vanilla Tryton and see if you have all you need
2012-11-16 10:01 <shomon> our problem is the connections fill up.. all you need to do is let the client hang and close it and the server goes too
2012-11-16 10:02 <sealibora> cedk: i have tryton set up and i'm importing my BOMs
2012-11-16 10:02 <cedk> shomon: for me, your issue looks like a firewall issue
2012-11-16 10:02 <shomon> I guess at some point you have to take tryton's fields as a starting point and get a whiteboard out to map out the rest
2012-11-16 10:03 <shomon> hmm... any idea how I could check that? It's a vpn so it might have a firewall outside of it
2012-11-16 10:03 <shomon> I've had the same problem on 2 different servers
2012-11-16 10:04 <cedk> shomon: I guess it is on your ADSL box
2012-11-16 10:04 <shomon> anyone who connects gets the same problem
2012-11-16 10:04 <shomon> from all over barcelona...
2012-11-16 10:05 <shomon> so far about 4 or 5 people only though
2012-11-16 10:05 <cedk> shomon: once the client has connection with the server, it puts the connection with an large timeout, so if you have a firewall that cuts the connection without advertising the server, you got a problem because the client will start a new connection
2012-11-16 10:05 <cedk> shomon: such behavior happens often on bad firewall
2012-11-16 10:05 <sealibora> but you do not know that someone hase already started work on something similar ?
2012-11-16 10:05 <shomon> who will firewall the firewalls..
2012-11-16 10:06 <shomon> sealibora, maybe you could ask on the google groups?
2012-11-16 10:06 <cedk> sealibora: difficult to answer because we don't know what you are planning to do
2012-11-16 10:07 <shomon> I guess you want to know when the widgets will get from a to b and how many are left at various suppliers or warehouses?
2012-11-16 10:08 <sealibora> first i want to have additional fields in product: package, value, resdefs
2012-11-16 10:09 <sealibora> thats actually a good first step, i'll do it right now
2012-11-16 10:17 <cedk> sealibora: If you add attributes to products, you should check the coming Dict fields
2012-11-16 10:18 <sealibora> cedk: could you elaborate ?
2012-11-16 10:18 <cedk> sealibora: I think the fields you want to add, are just information but not to be used by the system
2012-11-16 10:19 <sealibora> cedk: i want to filter by them
2012-11-16 10:19 <cedk> sealibora: the fields.Dict allow to store such sets of values
2012-11-16 10:19 <cedk> sealibora: if you want to filter, then it is not yet ready for that
2012-11-16 10:19 <sealibora> cedk: but it will be added in the near future ?
2012-11-16 10:20 <cedk> sealibora: probably not out-of-the-box
2012-11-16 10:21 <cedk> udono: you wanted to add a description for each mailing list
2012-11-16 10:21 <cedk> udono: could you provide the text?
2012-11-16 11:21 <Pilou> cedk: udono: about mailing lists, instead of having only description for contrib ML, description for other mailing should be added ?
2012-11-16 11:26 <cedk> Pilou: will it not be confusing
2012-11-16 11:28 <Pilou> what will be confusing ?
2012-11-16 11:29 <cedk> Pilou: to put the description of other mailing list on one
2012-11-16 11:32 <Pilou> what i wanted to say is that description for each ML could be added on the community page (http://codereview.tryton.org/583006/).
2012-11-16 12:50 <cedk> Pilou: just there is not enough because it is not the main entry point of ML
2012-11-16 12:50 <cedk> Pilou: so we will have to duplicate the description on the ML and on the website, which is more harder to maintain
2012-11-16 12:57 <Pilou> "The website" is http://www.tryton.org/community.html but what is "the ML" ? Is it https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/tryton-XXXX ?
2012-11-16 12:58 <cedk> Pilou: yes
2012-11-16 13:06 <Pilou> I discover tryton mailing lists reading http://www.tryton.org/community.html. It's not hard work to duplicate text from this page to each group page (by the way currently there is no description text https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/tryton-XXXX)
2012-11-16 13:07 <cedk> Pilou: Trust me, it is hard to make manual synchronisation
2012-11-16 13:10 <Pilou> If one place should be choose, i think a description on community web page would be more useful than on the groups description.
2012-11-16 13:13 <cedk> Pilou: It is a strange choise because people have to see the groups description but not the community page
2012-11-16 13:19 <rmu> if you are at it, tryton.origo.ethz.ch is dead, so the link should probably be removed
2012-11-16 16:07 <cedk> Pilou: hi by the way, as I saw since the Sprint at PyCONFR, you are more involved in the project. Do you want to have direct push access?
2012-11-16 16:09 <Pilou> Push access to tryton repositories ?
2012-11-16 16:10 <cedk> Pilou: yeps
2012-11-16 16:11 <cedk> Pilou: I think it will increase your contributions :-)
2012-11-16 16:12 <Pilou> thanks, i would be honored :)
2012-11-16 16:22 <cedk> Pilou: you will have to send me your ssh key
2012-11-16 16:25 <cedk> Pilou: of course, it will not free you of codereview :-)
2012-11-16 16:28 <Pilou> codereviews are not punishments :)
2012-11-16 16:38 <nicoe> Pilou: welcome !
2012-11-16 16:39 <Pilou> thanks :)
2012-11-16 16:41 <cedk> cedric_scil: hi, I think you should post on tryton-contrib about the android client
2012-11-16 16:42 <nicoe> cedk, cedric_scil: Indeed I'm quite sure a lot of people has never heard about the android client you're working on
2012-11-16 16:45 <cedric_scil> Why not. Maybe my brain is burnt, I haven't found the lists...
2012-11-16 16:46 <cedk> cedric_scil: it is not yet published on the website (waiting Pilou :-)
2012-11-16 16:46 <cedk> cedric_scil: shortcut: http://groups-contrib.tryton.org
2012-11-16 17:04 <cedric_scil> cedk: Google account is mandatory?
2012-11-16 17:04 <Pilou> cedric_scil: no
2012-11-16 17:05 <cedk> cedric_scil: yes but not a gmail account
2012-11-16 17:05 <Pilou> cedric_scil: send an email to tryton-contrib+subscribe@googlegroups.com with "subscribe" in the subject
2012-11-16 17:06 <Pilou> without a google account ;)
2012-11-16 17:06 <cedk> Pilou: it works ?
2012-11-16 17:07 <cedk> Pilou: I guess, it create a google account on the fly
2012-11-16 17:07 <Pilou> yes
2012-11-16 17:08 <cedric_scil> Done
2012-11-16 17:09 <cedric_scil> Then I just have to send mails to tryton-contrib@googlegroups.com?
2012-11-16 17:09 <Pilou> yes
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