IRC logs of #tryton for Monday, 2014-08-18

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Mon Aug 18 00:00:01 CEST 2014
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2014-08-18 13:53 <mar> why doesn't account_invoice reconcile payment lines immediately?
2014-08-18 13:53 <mar> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/trytond/modules/account_invoice/file/70c07a2b3fdf/invoice.py#l2620
2014-08-18 13:53 <mar> only after all lines are paid?
2014-08-18 13:53 <mar> is there a reason?
2014-08-18 13:55 <mar> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/trytond/modules/account/file/b82ac1317bdb/account.py#l2140 partialy paid invoices doesn't show up in aged balance report
2014-08-18 14:14 <cedk> mar: it doesn't because it depends on the type of payment
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2014-08-18 14:56 <mar> cedk, is there a payment type that reconciles automatically?
2014-08-18 14:56 <mar> where do I configure this?
2014-08-18 14:58 <cedk> mar: it is on the wizard
2014-08-18 15:00 <mar> which one? partial payment?
2014-08-18 15:01 <mar> I don't see any option to reconcile
2014-08-18 15:01 <cedk> mar: it is obvious with the name of options
2014-08-18 15:02 <mar> you mean when I press pay and enter amount less then total, select a journal, click ok, there is option to reconcile or not?
2014-08-18 15:04 <mar> I only get to select write-off / partial payment at that point
2014-08-18 15:04 <cedk> mar: so those names are obvious
2014-08-18 15:05 <mar> but can I do partial payment + reconcile the amount?
2014-08-18 15:07 <cedk> mar: no because it makes no sense
2014-08-18 15:07 <cedk> if it is partial, it doesn't pay the all
2014-08-18 15:08 <mar> but then aged balance report is wrong, because it shows wrong amount (should subtract partial payment), right?
2014-08-18 15:16 <cedk> mar: I don't think so
2014-08-18 15:18 <mar> why?
2014-08-18 15:21 <cedk> mar: because it sums the lines
2014-08-18 15:21 <mar> only fully paid lines
2014-08-18 15:21 <mar> I mean only "not reconciled" lines
2014-08-18 15:22 <mar> but if lets say client paid 50% of the invoice, the aged balance for that client should be less?
2014-08-18 15:23 <cedk> mar: of course only not reconciled because sum of reconciled equals 0
2014-08-18 15:36 <mar> the report doesn't sound logical to me then
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2014-08-18 16:33 <Omk> Sending again my question from last thursday evening regarding internal use, damaged products as well as promotional non-charged goods:
2014-08-18 16:34 <Omk> Suppose the company sends sample products to a party for testing / review, free of charge. What is the best way of doing that? Sale with price list creating zero value invoice? Or internal shipment, or?
2014-08-18 16:34 <Omk> Best would be that also packing list would be generated.
2014-08-18 16:37 <corro> Omk: I guess you could just create an outgoing shipment without sale or invoice?
2014-08-18 16:38 <Omk> Oh that simple! Of course, I did not think of that =)
2014-08-18 16:39 <Omk> How about damaged items - what is the right way? I suppose creating a stock move to lost+found will remove the value from the stock and the products can be discarded. Is this the right way?
2014-08-18 16:39 <Omk> How about internal use of products?
2014-08-18 16:42 <cedk> Omk: yes for lost&found
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2014-08-18 17:02 <Omk> cedk: thanks. Is internal use also lost&found?
2014-08-18 17:05 <cedk> Omk: don't understand
2014-08-18 17:06 <Omk> cedk: suppose customer (retail company) takes some of their products from the stock and uses it internally. Then it is not damaged product, but internal use. I think it should be treated differently.
2014-08-18 17:14 <cedk> Omk: it must be asset
2014-08-18 17:14 <Omk> cedk: meaning?
2014-08-18 17:15 <cedk> Omk: product has a type
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2014-08-18 17:16 <Omk> cedk: can you please be more specific? I'm not getting you
2014-08-18 17:18 <cedk> Omk: if the company uses the product, it can not be a stockable but it must be an asset
2014-08-18 17:18 <cedk> Omk: for now, there are no module to help transform a stockable product into an asset
2014-08-18 17:19 <Omk> cedk: but it is consumable. it cannot be asset. Suppose customer is a supermarket. They need coffee and milk for the crew, taking it from the shelve. A stock move must be created. But it cannot be made an asset, as it is consumed in a day or two.
2014-08-18 17:20 <Omk> cedk: reading the finnish accounting norms - in accounting internal use is treated similarly as revenue, it is considered taxable revenue. But if yearly internal use is less than 850 €, it is VAT exempt. Exceeding that , VAT must be paid.
2014-08-18 17:21 <cedk> Omk: I have no clue
2014-08-18 17:21 <Omk> cedk: Ok, thanks. I have to do some more research.
2014-08-18 17:22 <Omk> corro: Could you help out in this?
2014-08-18 17:26 <corro> Omk: I'm no stock expert, but I guess I would create a new location for 'internal use' and just move the products there
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2014-08-18 17:45 <Omk> corro: thanks, now creating that location. Still have to see how to do the accounting part of it.
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