IRC logs of #tryton for Wednesday, 2017-05-31

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Wed May 31 00:00:01 CEST 2017
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2017-05-31 10:34 <cedk> pokoli: would you mind if I work on the notification_email module?
2017-05-31 10:35 <pokoli> cedk: of course not, feel free to work on it
2017-05-31 10:49 <cedk> pokoli: I think to solve the recipients, we should just provide a Many2One to a field of the model which allows only field targeting Party, User or WebUser
2017-05-31 10:49 <cedk> pokoli: it can be a Many2One or xxx2Many
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2017-05-31 11:02 <pokoli> cedk: ok, but we should be able to extend it by code
2017-05-31 11:03 <cedk> pokoli: yes just a matter of if/else
2017-05-31 11:05 <pokoli> cedk: and about cc and cco?
2017-05-31 11:10 <cedk> pokoli: what do you mean?
2017-05-31 11:14 <pokoli> cedk: who do you plan to manage the CC and CCO fields of the notification
2017-05-31 11:14 <pokoli> cedk: or do you plan to send only using "TO2 to each recipient?
2017-05-31 11:19 <cedk> pokoli: I do not understand what is CCO and TO2
2017-05-31 11:24 <cedk> but I will add a field for To, Cc and Bcc
2017-05-31 11:25 <pokoli> cedk: that what I was refereing. TO2 = To, CCO = Bcc
2017-05-31 11:26 <pokoli> cedk: I'm wondering if we can simplify and omit Cc and Bcc
2017-05-31 11:26 <pokoli> cedk: but send one diferent email per notification recipient
2017-05-31 11:27 <pokoli> using only "to"
2017-05-31 11:27 <cedk> pokoli: I do not think it simplifies because you have to create many triggers
2017-05-31 11:30 <cedk> but I'm still wondering if we should allow fixed email addresses
2017-05-31 11:30 <cedk> like a Cc that receives all emails
2017-05-31 11:31 <pokoli> cedk: as the field accepts a XXX2Many, use this to have the list of recipients with a single trigger
2017-05-31 11:32 <pokoli> cedk: that's one of the reasons for what I want to be able to extend by code
2017-05-31 11:33 <pokoli> cedk: to include fixed email address that may be specified on a separate field. But I'm not sure if we will need this or not. As most of the time is used to now if the notification has been send correctly, and we have a log for it
2017-05-31 11:34 <cedk> pokoli: agreed
2017-05-31 11:36 <pokoli> cedk: so for me we can forget about it for now, and wait and see
2017-05-31 12:03 <cedk> pokoli: for the language, I think we should send a unique email multipart/alternative with content-language for each languages
2017-05-31 12:10 <pokoli> cedk: that will be great
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2017-05-31 13:01 <cedk> there are just one issue with multipart is that we have to choose one language for the subject
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2017-05-31 14:04 <wifasoi> hi
2017-05-31 14:12 <wifasoi> i'm paying arround with the Sale Subscription Module ani have a question: Is there a way to generate the first invoice when i create the "subscription"? I tried but for generating the invoice it need to satisfy the rrlue (obviously). The user case is to generate the invoice the membership fee of an association.
2017-05-31 14:16 <wifasoi> ignore the last sentence... my English is very rusty and proof reading is hard :)
2017-05-31 14:20 <cedk> wifasoi: I think you should customize the subscription object to create an initial invoice
2017-05-31 14:26 <wifasoi> ahaa ok. I'll work on that. Is this feature welcome in the master branch or is too specific?
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2017-05-31 15:03 <cedk> wifasoi: don't know but at best it is for a separate module
2017-05-31 15:05 <wifasoi> sorry,I intended to improve the subscription module... not the tryton master branch
2017-05-31 15:08 <pokoli> wifasoi: but I'm not sure will everybody will require this feature, so it's best to create a separate module
2017-05-31 15:08 <pokoli> wifasoi: and then interested people can activate it
2017-05-31 15:09 <wifasoi> ahaa ok
2017-05-31 15:09 <cedk> probably such module should take care of initial and closing invoice
2017-05-31 15:13 <pokoli> is there a cache for "ir.action.act_window.domain"? I've modified a count value but I don't see updated on sao (but yes on the database)
2017-05-31 15:20 <cedk> pokoli: I do not think so
2017-05-31 15:20 <cedk> pokoli: indeed there is no cache on sao
2017-05-31 15:24 <pokoli> cedk: it must be on server side as I can reproduct it also on tryton
2017-05-31 15:24 <pokoli> s/reproduct/reproduce/g
2017-05-31 15:26 <cedk> pokoli: there is cache for fields_view_get
2017-05-31 15:41 <pokoli> cedk: i'm investigating, but I think is the ir_action_keyword.get_keyword cache
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2017-05-31 16:48 <pokoli> JFTR: I created https://bugs.tryton.org/issue6536 which contains the fix
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2017-05-31 17:43 <gonzo___> d
2017-05-31 17:47 <pokoli> gonzo___: hi :)
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2017-05-31 18:40 <csotelo> hello coders
2017-05-31 18:41 <csotelo> some one has done a module for payment types including credit and debit card and their movements?
2017-05-31 18:53 <cedk> csotelo: do not understand
2017-05-31 18:55 -!- JosDzG(~Thunderbi@189.250.57.203) has joined #tryton
2017-05-31 19:32 <csotelo> cedk, I mean.. I have seen this module https://bitbucket.org/trytonspain/trytond-account_payment_type, however what happend when a payment is done using a credit card or debit card, wghere accounting movements are no like a cash payment, they are comkission and other accountntant movements
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2017-05-31 19:49 <cedk> csotelo: this module makes no sense to me
2017-05-31 19:49 <csotelo> neither me but is closer as I am looking for
2017-05-31 19:57 <cedk> csotelo: what does not make sense to me is to store on the invoice information about payment
2017-05-31 20:03 <csotelo> do you know any other module like it, since there will be more than one ways on do a payment
2017-05-31 20:04 <cedk> csotelo: Tryton has a generic account_payment module
2017-05-31 20:05 <cedk> csotelo: and for now, it supports sepa and stripe
2017-05-31 20:05 <csotelo> probably just use sepa or strip in order on adding estra payments types
2017-05-31 20:05 <csotelo> right?
2017-05-31 20:05 <csotelo> like a samples
2017-05-31 20:06 <cedk> csotelo: but as you found usefull the account_payment_type, I do not know if we are talking about the same thing
2017-05-31 20:06 <cedk> csotelo: don't understand
2017-05-31 20:07 <csotelo> for been honest, I have installed payment type module, but this doesnt make sense to me, on the way on manage the payments. just for take an exmaple, a cash payment or bank tranfer is no like a credit card payment
2017-05-31 20:07 <csotelo> or a debit card, that is the reason on why I am looking for information
2017-05-31 20:07 <csotelo> I didnt see sepa or strip
2017-05-31 20:07 <csotelo> probably it helps me
2017-05-31 20:07 <csotelo> I will check it for been sure
2017-05-31 20:08 <cedk> csotelo: I do not know what you are trying to do
2017-05-31 20:08 <cedk> csotelo: I do not understand what you try to manage? you do not manage payments
2017-05-31 20:09 <csotelo> I dont know how to make me clear on ir. I just could say that I need a way to let tryton do payment using cash, banks transfer or and credit and debit card
2017-05-31 20:10 <csotelo> and that is the reason that I found account payment type modle usable, however it make any kind of payment similar, taht dosnt make sense to me
2017-05-31 20:12 <cedk> csotelo: "do payment" does not make sense to me
2017-05-31 20:12 <csotelo> could I know why??
2017-05-31 20:12 <cedk> csotelo: it is customer who pay
2017-05-31 20:13 <csotelo> yes...customer is who pay, and customer could pay on cash, bank or credit debit card
2017-05-31 20:14 <cedk> csotelo: so you want to register payment not manage
2017-05-31 20:14 <cedk> csotelo: registering is just about creating accounting
2017-05-31 20:14 <cedk> csotelo: for cash we have the pay button on the invoice
2017-05-31 20:15 <cedk> csotelo: for others, it is statements
2017-05-31 20:15 <cedk> ACTION bbl
2017-05-31 20:16 <csotelo> ok, and what about credit card?
2017-05-31 20:16 <csotelo> could be statements
2017-05-31 20:16 <csotelo> sorry if these are dumb questions
2017-05-31 20:17 <csotelo> I understand that statement is more like bank transfer
2017-05-31 20:17 <csotelo> and is usefull for it
2017-05-31 20:17 <csotelo> but, what about credit cards
2017-05-31 20:20 <csotelo> wher I register the payment like a cash, but is no cash
2017-05-31 20:20 <csotelo> I mean on the same way, I register the payment but instead of cash, I just register the payment and there is no money or cash given just a transaction number
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2017-05-31 20:22 <csotelo> Do you understand what I mean?
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2017-05-31 22:06 <cedk> csotelo: you can register cards payment using a statement
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2017-05-31 22:07 <cedk> csotelo: or if you want to communicate with the card reader using a specific workflow, you can use a payment like for stripe
2017-05-31 22:07 <cedk> as always it is a matter of compromise about how far the modelisation must go
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2017-05-31 22:32 <csotelo> cedk, no card reader comunication is needed, just a way to resgiter the payment, since this kind of payment downt go to a cash account
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