| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sun Jan 7 00:00:01 CET 2018 | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:37 <csotelo> Hi Comunity, I have noticed that there is no more credit note, instead of it, an invoice with negative values, Am I ok? | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:39 <cedk> csotelo: yes, it is a credit note if all lines are negatives | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:41 <csotelo> cedk, what about if we need a document named "credit note" with its own number sequence? as 3.8. Negative values are no valid for electronic invoicing on Peru | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:42 <cedk> csotelo: I do not know, never hear about such constraint | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:42 <csotelo> is there a way to manage it? | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:42 <cedk> csotelo: credit = negitavie | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:45 <csotelo> unfortunately, yes, SUNAT ( tax authority on Peru ) manage 4 basic documents invoice ( comercial and simple ) and credit note ( simple and comercial ) on any case, negative values are no admited. 3.8 fill our constraint, but 4.2 no no fill. And for invoicing, electronic invoicing, has a hard constraint, no cero or negatives values | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:46 <csotelo> I am thinking on take credit note behavior from 3.8 in order to manage it | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:47 <cedk> csotelo: but how do you make rebate? | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:48 <cedk> csotelo: what is "cero"? | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:48 <csotelo> cedk, zero no cero, sorry for the mistake | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:50 <csotelo> cedk, for been honest, I am no really sure how to rebate them, however when I have doing tests with 3.8, it was fully according to the tax authority, however, after doing the upgrade, the accountant notice this issue and notice me that that it is no according Peruvian Tax Authority constraints | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:51 <cedk> csotelo: If you do not know exactly how it works, I can not help | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:51 <cedk> csotelo: also I do not trust accountant to provide relialable information about real constraints | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:51 <csotelo> cedk, I mean, I dont know how I could get 3.8 credit note behavior to 4.2 as a invoice customization, in order to rebate | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:52 <csotelo> the only feed back this morning is that credit note is no working any more and the way on how it is working on 4.2 is no according Peruvian restriction | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:52 <csotelo> since is no possible an invoice with negatives values | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:53 <csotelo> that is the reason on thing on take 3.8 version behavior on invoicing | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:53 <csotelo> cedk, as I have written on before, 3.8 was fully ok, | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:54 <cedk> csotelo: and I ask you how can you make a rebate if you can not have a negative line | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:54 <csotelo> credit note as a document to rebate invoice | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:55 <cedk> csotelo: so you *never ever* have any mixed document? | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:55 <csotelo> is no posible | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:55 <csotelo> since negative values are denied | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:55 <cedk> csotelo: not sure to understand the answer | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:57 <csotelo> I understand that you ask for a mixed document as a document with negative values, right? then mi answer is no, is no possible | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:58 <cedk> csotelo: so you will have to add a constraint on invoice to prevent that but only on customer invoice because you may receive invoice from other countries were this is allowed | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:58 <csotelo> now it is 18:57 on Peru .. I am still working at office since accountants says that my tryton upgrade, done before december 31th is no filling SUNAT requirement | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:59 <csotelo> and now I must find before monday a solution | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:59 <csotelo> that is the reason on asking | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:59 <cedk> csotelo: you must override every code that generate an invoice to create two invoices per line sign | ||
| 2018-01-07 00:59 <csotelo> one thing Thta I was thinink, is check code on how credit notes was working on before on 3.8 and copy an dpaste for a fast solution | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:00 <cedk> csotelo: this is not possible, code evolves | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:00 <csotelo> omg, ten I am on seriuos problems | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:00 <csotelo> then* | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:01 <cedk> csotelo: for me, you mainly just have to fix your code | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:01 <cedk> csotelo: the constraint and code override is just to avoid issue earlier but accountant should not post such invoice | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:02 <csotelo> I am using it on a health institution | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:02 <csotelo> named Clinica Virgen del Rosario | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:03 <csotelo> I guess I am explaining it to much | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:03 <cedk> csotelo: indeed I thought you have to interface with an external software, but I reread and it does not seem | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:03 <cedk> csotelo: so I do not see where is the problem | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:03 <csotelo> my guesing was, how to get back credit note from 3.8 | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:05 <cedk> csotelo: I do not understand what you want, invoice works the same way as before with just that the display is a negative value for credit note | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:05 <cedk> csotelo: but it is a formal change, the accounting is the same | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:07 <cedk> https://bugs.tryton.org/issue5225 | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:07 <csotelo> as told you, we manage 4 basic documents types: invoice for companies named "factura", one of no companies, names "boleta", and its repectives credit notes, the main issue, on 4.2 version a credit note is an invoice with negative values managing the same sequence as a normal invoice | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:08 <csotelo> restriction for our authority: none document could manage negative values, other wise will be rejected, and each document manage its own sequence | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:08 <csotelo> that are the contraints | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:10 <csotelo> is there a way to manage it? that is the reason what I am thinking on moving to 3.8 or find a way on get back account invoice module from 3.8 | ||
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| 2018-01-07 01:11 <cedk> csotelo: wrong it is not the same sequence | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:11 <cedk> csotelo: but nothing changed from the accounting point of view… | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:12 <cedk> I think you are just focusing on formatting detail | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:13 <csotelo> no exactly, I ma focusing on sequence an negative values. But if sequenece is specific for credit note, that is ok for me, since I could manage the negative formating :) | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:13 <csotelo> and now I ahev a solution for my accountan and no scare myself | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:16 <cedk> csotelo: but you should add a constraint against mixed signes | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:17 <csotelo> probably just on the electronic reporting for the tax authority in order on no sent negatives | ||
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| 2018-01-07 01:19 <cedk> csotelo: no, on the invoice object because Tryton can now generate mixed content invoice | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:19 <cedk> it was the all goal of the change | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:19 <csotelo> I see | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:20 <cedk> but if I follow you, you can not do such document in Peru | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:23 <cedk> csotelo: by the way such constraintful module could be a generic module, there are probably other countries with similar constraints | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:25 <csotelo> you are right | ||
| 2018-01-07 01:25 <csotelo> tehre are a probability with similar constraints | ||
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| 2018-01-07 13:48 <csotelo> dear comunity | ||
| 2018-01-07 13:51 <csotelo> I need to skip / avoid wrintting validation when an invoice have been payed? | ||
| 2018-01-07 13:53 <csotelo> I mean just for specific operatins | ||
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| 2018-01-07 15:52 <plaes> um.. bugs and wiki are down? | ||
| 2018-01-07 15:55 <plaes> actually whole tryton.org is down... | ||
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