IRC logs of #tryton for Sunday, 2009-01-11

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sun Jan 11 00:00:02 CET 2009
vengfulsquirrelIs there any way to handle expired or damaged goods when taking inventories?00:06
cedkvengfulsquirrel: what do you mean?00:08
vengfulsquirrelWell for example a case where you expect 10 but 9 are fine and 1 is damaged.  If I just change that to 9, then 1 is moved into Lost and Found right ?  But its not really Lost at all it really is damaged/expired.00:10
vengfulsquirrel*In the scenario where you are taking inventory for a product and 10 are expected.00:12
cedkvengfulsquirrel: there is many possibilities:00:15
cedkvengfulsquirrel: you can make an inventory with an other location for product damaged00:16
cedkvengfulsquirrel: or you can make an internal packing to a damaged location00:16
cedkbut for me a damaged product can no more be sale, so it is like a lost00:17
vengfulsquirrelyeah Lost seems like it is going to be Found, like someone moved it without telling anyone in Inventory and you are waiting for that person to return it or for someone to find it00:18
cedkvengfulsquirrel: but for the company, it is the same lost or damaged or expired00:19
cedkbecause you can no more sale it or use it00:20
cedkvengfulsquirrel: except if you have different behavior for damaged product ?00:23
vengfulsquirrelHmm from a sales perspective yes they are the same, but not from the inventory management perspective, losing stuff is a different problem from having stuff expire or get damaged.  You know for the most part what happened to damaged and/or expired stuff but you don't know why stuff is getting lost.00:23
cedkvengfulsquirrel: so just create a location for damaged product00:24
vengfulsquirrelI was thinking about adding another column to an inventory, expired quantity, which would automatically make a move from the location to the Expired location for the wharehouse.00:26
cedkvengfulsquirrel: it is doable in a module00:26
vengfulsquirrelOkay I think it would be similar to Lost and Found but just have a different meaning and could help keep inventory more accurate in companies that have expirable goods.(and similarly for damagable goods)00:28
cedkvengfulsquirrel: except that generally you count the product that you find damaged, and not the product you lost :-)00:28
cedkvengfulsquirrel: so perhaps it is better to create a new form00:29
cedkvengfulsquirrel: where you put the quantity of product that you remove from the stock00:29
cedkvengfulsquirrel: we are working on a module for product breakage00:30
cedkvengfulsquirrel: it is a form like the inventory but where you put the quantity of product breaked00:31
vengfulsquirrelWell lost quantity = expected quantity - (found quantity + damaged quantity)00:31
cedks/breaked/broken/00:31
vengfulsquirrelWhy would you count damaged items at a seperate time from counting non-damaged items?00:32
cedkvengfulsquirrel: I think you update the stock quantity with damaged product than with inventory00:33
cedkmost of the company make an inventory once by year00:34
cedkbut they encode daily or weekly, the product that they trash00:34
vengfulsquirrelencode?00:36
cedkvengfulsquirrel: put in the system00:36
vengfulsquirrelYeah I thought weekly cycling inventories was supposed to prevent having to do a yearly inventory ?00:37
cedkin belgium, a company must do a at least one inventory per year00:37
vengfulsquirrelThat's really weird.  You mean all at once ?  If its over a few weeks then its not much different than cycling.00:40
vengfulsquirrelDoes the government have to come in and oversee it ?00:41
cedkvengfulsquirrel: no gov :-) and I don't know much about details00:42
cedkvengfulsquirrel: but many company make this in the first day of january00:43
vengfulsquirrelHmm interesting00:44
cedkvengfulsquirrel: I need to speak with our accountant for some thing, I can ask him about the inventory stuffs00:46
vengfulsquirrelcedk: Okay, can you look at this diagram?  http://laspilitas.com/s/images/stock-layout-2.png00:51
vengfulsquirrelI'm still trying to get organized to get some discussion going on the mailing list about Production planning.00:52
cedkvengfulsquirrel: seems good, except that I think "Consumed by production" is the same than Production00:53
vengfulsquirrelHmm yeah that might be right I didn't think of that.00:54
cedkand generally, I see the lost and found outside the warehouse (but it is a question of matter)00:54
vengfulsquirrelDo you think having an Input/Output for production is logical ?00:56
cedkvengfulsquirrel: it can if there is like some quality check before and after the production00:57
cedkthat makes the product not yet ready for sale00:58
cedkbut it must be optional00:58
vengfulsquirrelYeah I was thinking of the physical movement from Storage to the production line and then re-stocking the results of the production.01:02
vengfulsquirrelSo I guess once the production run actually happened allocated goods in the production input zone would be moved into Production, and the produced goods would be moved from Production into the production output zone.01:04
cedkI think01:04
vengfulsquirrelcedk: Okay thanks for your time, I gotta run for now but I'll be back later.01:14
CIA-8tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 422:4f00e2974af7 stock/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE02:13
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CIA-8tryton: Timitos roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: pay attention to this: this part is only used "for move in packing.inventory_moves:" so this is not really an outgoing package but a package of a ...11:00
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CIA-8tryton: bch roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: I think also that one should use the cost_price for inventory moves (storage to outgoing location) and the list price for the outgoing moves (from ...11:58
CIA-8tryton: ced roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: @timitos: False, it is the loop that create outgoing moves.12:02
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CIA-8tryton: Timitos roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: @ced: i am speaking about def set_state_packed and this lines (line 540) of packing.py in stock module: unit_price = uom_obj.compute_price( ...12:07
CIA-8tryton: ced roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: @timitos: read the line 543, unit_price is used to create the outgoing move.12:11
CIA-8tryton: Timitos roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: ok. so i was blind. thx for pointing me this out. but i am still not sure if list_price is the right price here. i will try to go deeper again int ...12:16
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cristi_ani ahev some diffculties in installing mercurial13:03
cristi_anis possible to do that using apt-get ?13:03
cristi_ani want to install tryton manualy step by step not using the dev script13:03
cristi_anis this ok ?13:07
cristi_ansudo apt-get install mercurial13:07
CIA-8tryton: carlos@pemas.es * r414 /wiki/HowtoCreateAChartOfAccounts.wiki: Initial page to document a chart of accounts creation.13:07
CIA-8tryton: carlos@pemas.es * r415 /wiki/HowtoCreateAChartOfAccounts.wiki: Added some notes while I'm learning how everything works, so I can integrate that in a longer explanation.13:07
cristi_ancarlos: good job i will need that information how to creat chart of acounts :)13:08
carloscristi_an: I'm just starting with it, the document is not useful at all right now13:09
cristi_anwill be :) iam sure13:09
cristi_ani just start myself13:09
carloscristi_an: btw, apt-get install mercurial should work if you are not using a really old distribution13:09
cristi_anubuntu13:09
carlosI'm using Ubuntu 8.1013:09
carlosand it's available13:10
cristi_ani use 8.4 or so13:10
cristi_anbut on mercurial site on debian does not write such thing13:10
cristi_anhttp://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/BinaryPackages13:10
cristi_anit write below on rpm instaltions :)13:11
carloscristi_an: by default, try with apt-cache search PACKAGE13:11
carlosto see whether it's available in your distribution13:11
carlosand if it's not available, follow the instructions like the ones in the selenic website13:11
cristi_anit is13:13
cristi_ani run it and is installed thx13:13
cristi_anwondered why on mercurial page do not write about apt-get on debian packages13:14
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cristi_anTimitos: ich habe ein kleine problem15:38
cristi_anhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/103541/15:38
cristi_ani can't find the vatnumber directory15:39
cristi_anor shoud i crete that ?15:39
Timitoscristi_an: i think you first need to download the repository15:40
cristi_ani just did15:40
cristi_ani am on that step15:40
cristi_anthat is in paste shown15:40
cristi_anisntalling the optioanl packages15:41
Timitosfirst you should navigate with a terminal into the vatnumber directory15:41
Timitosi think it could be perhaps in your home directory15:42
cristi_anok but vatnumer directory is missing...if you run the dev-script.sh from what i see15:43
Timitoscristi_an: yes. because it is optional15:44
cristi_anso how do i get it then ?15:44
cristi_an:)15:44
Timitosterminal: hg clone http://hg.tryton.org/hg/vatnumber15:46
cristi_ani assume in module directory15:47
Timitoscristi_an: no15:49
Timitoschoose another directory15:49
cristi_anwell and do not knwo why but you are right15:51
cristi_anwhen i choosed modules directory15:51
cristi_ani got an error15:51
cristi_anthen i created an optional directory  and there i received all files15:51
Timitosvatnumber is not a module. it is another project you can say15:51
cristi_anand it may be installed as a packege on debian15:52
cristi_an?15:52
Timitoscristi_an: you can use python setup.py install16:01
Timitoscristi_an: the setup.py is in the vatnumber directory16:01
cristi_ani did that16:02
cristi_anit's ok16:02
cristi_ani am just reviewing the discussion we had in december16:02
cristi_ansince i want to do the instaltion pretty much as independed as i can16:02
cristi_anthen i executed blindly all commdans from you16:03
cristi_anit worked but i did not understood why...:)16:03
Timitos:-)16:04
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udonocedk: hello, I tried the half night to get the mercurial ssl wrapper run... http://www.selenic.com/repo/hg-stable/raw-file/tip/contrib/hg-ssh but no chance, my command="..." in the authorized keys file is never evaluated. Do you have an idea?18:51
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cedkudono: the user must have a shell18:54
udonocedk: he has a shell :-(18:57
udonocedk: where do you place the hg-ssh script? I put it in usr/local/bin18:58
udonocedk: because I think the script is called by the sshd user...19:00
udonobut maybe I just need a fresh start ...19:00
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cristi_anfor the near future : is possible to link tryton client to a receipt printer ?19:11
cristi_ani am 100 % sure that is possible to make native calls from python .bu tis this possible to do from client ?19:12
cristi_anit is all about serial comunications for some printers19:13
cedkudono: you must put it in a place in the PATH19:16
cristi_ancedk: a yes or no to my question not more19:18
cedkcristi_an: you can define any programs for printing19:19
cristi_ani was thinking how the call from client may be done...but i assume like opening open office19:20
cristi_anopen office is an external program19:20
cristi_anmaybe the same i can call some exe with parameters in this case19:20
cristi_ancedk: so answer is yes ? i may use any external device for printing as long as i have the comm protocol ?19:39
yangoon  cristi_an: have a look under Files Actions in the client menu20:08
cristi_anyangoon: under which menu ?20:11
cristi_ani found admin/actions20:12
yangooncristi_an: client menu, topmost20:12
cristi_anthere is a button called action20:13
cristi_anNo action defined yet !20:13
yangooncristi_an: Preferences/Files Actions20:14
cristi_anaha20:17
cristi_anit is disabled on the demo20:19
CIA-8tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 154:ef9617b2c5f7 stock_supply/COPYRIGHT: Updated Copyright20:55
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