IRC logs of #tryton for Saturday, 2009-03-14

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Timitoscedk: hi. tryton on ohloh seems not to be updated. do you know somethings about? the last tracked commit seems to be from 19th of February12:01
cedkTimitos: I don't know there is a lot of others that are not updated12:04
cedkTimitos: I have seen some that ask on the forum to update their projects12:06
Timitoscedk: ok. thx.12:07
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cristi_ancedk:,udono ,Timitos  for adavance reporting on client14:24
cristi_ani spossbile to do something liek this14:24
cristi_anhttp://imagebin.ca/view/RltluuNV.html14:24
cristi_an?14:24
cristi_ansomething like pivoit grids14:25
Timitoscristi_an: i donĀ“t think so. but it would be a nice feature. but you can do this with parsing data into a calc table and perhaps do it with openoffice14:30
cristi_anso like a printable report14:33
cristi_annot inside the desktop application14:33
cedkcristi_an: this requires some kind of "BI" function14:36
cristi_ancedk: not in that sense...i wouldl like to create a report on the screen that looks like that...14:37
cristi_anso it is more like having a widget like that on client side14:37
cristi_ansince after all it is a widget...like a more advanced tree table14:38
cristi_anpopultated with data14:38
cedkcristi_an: it is just replacing one column with a set of others14:38
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cedkcristi_an: the difficulty is to not overload the server, that is why I say it needs some caching and knowledge like a BI14:39
cristi_ani see14:41
cristi_ani saw openerp does not have a link anymore to their BI solution14:41
cristi_anor i can't find that...maybe14:42
cedkcristi_an: in fact the good term will be OLAP14:45
cristi_anhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLAP14:46
cristi_anhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pivot_table14:46
cristi_ansomething like that in tryton ? (in the future)14:47
Timitoscristi_an: cedk: we talked about that today. somebody mentioned this link: http://www.jedox.com/de/produkte/palo_olap_server/einleitung.html14:48
cristi_anreally ? today....14:49
cristi_annice coincidence...14:49
Timitoscristi_an: yes. today.14:49
cristi_ani was looking for something like that ...but i did not saw you discussion14:50
cristi_anopen source ????14:51
Timitoscristi_an: i talked on another channel about that14:52
Timitoscristi_an: it was first not tryton related14:52
cedkhttp://cubulus.sourceforge.net/14:52
Timitoscristi_an: i did not look complete on the solution but it mentiones that it is open source14:53
cedkI think it is a good starting point (I think also that OpenERP starts from it)14:53
cristi_anwhat other channel ,german one ?14:53
Timitoscristi_an: no14:54
cristi_ancedk: i look very interesting14:57
cristi_anit14:57
cedkcristi_an: looks :-)14:57
cristi_anbui know :)14:57
cristi_ani know14:57
cristi_ancedk:  but that is web app.14:57
cristi_anweb interface14:58
cristi_ancan that be intergrated in client.14:58
cedkcristi_an: I don't think the interface is the more important in this project14:58
cristi_anor you want to be used in that manner14:58
cedkcristi_an: it is how it use the cache and compute data14:58
cristi_anagree14:59
cristi_anbut you have to present that data in a nice manner14:59
cedkcristi_an: first, a strong backend and after GUI15:00
cristi_ananyway ...is this something that tryton takes into consideration ?15:02
cristi_anin the near or long future15:02
cristi_an?15:02
udonocristi_an: yes, of course we will have this in Future. But I don't thing it is with high priority for us now. First we need a High Quality Framework, then a well set of Modules. Only after this it makes sense to think about BI I think. Because BI is for collecting a lot of data, tables and aspects. Without the many models I don't see the real need, just a nice to have.15:07
cristi_ani perfectly understand you !!!! BUT....since thre are a lot of guy on the market that sell services and product that have all in one soultuins (even if bad ,but well advertised) it is haed to sell something that15:09
cristi_ando not have features like this...15:09
cristi_ansince managers...are boinded by reports15:09
cristi_ani can talk about how tryonn is how stable and strong backed...15:10
cristi_ansince they assume all are ...!!! by default15:10
cristi_anso he will choose something that has repotings etc etc15:10
cristi_anyou got my point...15:10
cristi_anhowever....i know ..you do you best here15:10
cristi_anand if i had more time not only Saturdays ...15:11
cristi_ani would try to help you...15:11
cedkcristi_an: small business will not need of this kind of reports15:13
cedksome good design reports with relatorio will make it15:14
cristi_anYES !15:16
cristi_anbut you have to dream :) on more15:17
udonocristi_an: From the marketing point of view you are absolutely right. But I dislike to integrate a lot of functionalities and Dependencies into tryton, just to serve some possible needs of some big customers. For me Tryton should be nearly complete for small and very small companies. And the fullfilling for mid-size/larger companies and their special needs should be financed by themselve...15:19
udonocristi_an: and dreaming with Tryton is a real reat aspect of the software...15:19
udono/reat/great/15:19
cristi_anudono: :)15:23
cedkcristi_an: did you succed to make you connection test between Tryton and OpenERP ?15:25
cristi_anNO iwas not able to connect with openerp15:25
cristi_andestkop client15:25
cristi_anto any remote server15:25
cristi_ani was very very courious to see how it works15:25
cristi_ani saw once on a forum a server15:26
cristi_anbut that was for 4.215:26
cristi_anans i wanted to test latest version on a remote server...15:26
cristi_anthat from web pages tells me i do not have latest vesions or so15:26
cedkcristi_an: the demo server on OpenERP are not accessible ?15:26
cristi_anwell ... i could not connect with latest downloaed client15:27
cedkI'm just currious if the NO_TCPDELAY has any effect on the speed15:27
cedkcristi_an: great :-( the demo server is not up todate ?15:28
cristi_anyou can try too,if you have like 5 min15:28
cristi_anmaybe i did something worng...15:28
cedkcristi_an: args, I need to install bzr15:30
cristi_anno...15:34
cristi_ani seee15:34
cristi_anyou do not have windows15:34
cristi_aninstall :)15:34
cedkcristi_an: Not here15:35
cedkcristi_an: and my laptop crash last week :-(15:35
cedkcristi_an: I will try15:35
cristi_an:(15:35
cedkbut for now, I'm working on improving the translation15:35
cristi_ank...:)15:35
cedkI will write a module that ask to google to translate15:36
cedkand add some queries to try to translate automaticly new terms that has been already translated15:36
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 289:8e86d2e683f6 website/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/tryton.po: Update translation for de_DE15:38
cristi_ancool !..15:42
cristi_anweb serive based ..i guess15:43
cristi_anor like a http call and you extract15:43
cristi_annice however :)15:43
cedkcristi_an: I don't find webservice15:43
cedkI think it will speed up the translation process15:45
cristi_anfor sure...and a native...15:45
cristi_anwill just15:45
cedkbecause translator will only check if the translation is correct15:45
cristi_anmake some improvement manually15:45
cristi_an:)15:45
cristi_ansmart choice :)15:45
cristi_ancedk: someday...now i push my luck !15:50
cristi_ancan;t you just do a script thta populated the db with much more15:50
cristi_andata15:50
cristi_anthe demo15:50
cristi_anlike having around data that a firm gets in one yers15:51
cristi_an5000 customers15:51
cristi_anand like 10000 produscts15:51
cristi_anand 100000 inovices15:51
udonocedk: http://sourceforge.net/projects/googletranslate15:54
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cedkudono: I don't find any packages16:18
cedkudono: and I write in one line the call to google translate16:19
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #861/Display of number of selected records: [new] It would be nice to have the number of the selected records besides the ID of the current selected record in the status bar of the client.16:31
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CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #862/Renaming of Packing to Shipment: [new] According to http://groups.google.com/group/tryton/browse_thread/thread/8337c7319c2efaaa I propose to rename: Packing -> Shipment Customer ...17:05
cedkI just read http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=174457&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=1451510517:23
cedkIt explain why disabling Nagle has no effect on Tryton (or OpenERP) connection17:23
cedkbecause we make write-read-write-read everytime17:23
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 1616:521f5ee962a0 trytond/trytond/ (ir/de_DE.csv res/de_DE.csv workflow/de_DE.csv): Update translation for de_DE17:30
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 391:48de1564d1d0 account/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE17:30
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 275:f7cd1cbbaded account_invoice/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE17:30
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 33:3dcb8eee2d3b account_product/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE17:30
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 63:109b8b5ce7db analytic_account/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE17:30
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 131:fb3032244924 company/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE17:30
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 238:6b399109c162 party/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE17:31
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CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 256:fe6775819ca5 purchase/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE17:31
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cristi_anahaa17:33
cristi_anbut did you tried doing it on tryton ?17:33
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Timitoscedk: i need to use the value of a DateTime-Field in another textfield. is there some function in tryton to format the date for party_language?17:42
cedkTimitos: you can look at format_lang in report.py17:46
Timitoscedk: thx17:47
cedkcristi_an: I try but I didn't see any difference17:47
cedkcristi_an: but we don't suffer from the same lattency then OpenERP17:47
cristi_antryton works ok over the internet17:55
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CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 0:3e36dd89279b google_translate/ (10 files): Initial commit for google_translate module19:16
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1617:f266f7ae3e11 trytond/trytond/tools/convert.py: Set default values on RecordTagHandler19:16
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1618:d1afe23e1e87 trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Try to find translation for new one19:16
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1619:2e45c5b5affe trytond/: merge19:16
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 276:7211ada1f78e account_invoice/invoice.py: Better error message19:17
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 277:e8efca5eb8a5 account_invoice/: merge19:17
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #863/ImportError: No module named BeautifulSoup: [new] If module google_translate just is in modules path, but not installed: [Sat Mar 14 20:02:43 2009] ERROR:modules:Couldn't import module goog ...20:05
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #863/ImportError: No module named BeautifulSoup: [resolved] Read the readme, you must install BeautifulSoup if you install it.20:15
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #864/README account_invoice: [new] contains The account_statement module of the Tryton application platform.20:29
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #864/README account_invoice: [resolved] error, other module20:29
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 290:eaba46050846 website/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/tryton.po: Update translation for de_DE20:41
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #865/Website: path to irc logs: [new] When running the website in a localized version, the path to IRC Log Archiv gives a 404.20:46
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CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 291:574411114ea1 website/ (8 files in 5 dirs): Use absolute path for ~irclog20:57
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #865/Website: path to irc logs: [resolved] Fix with changeset 574411114ea120:57
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #866/Translation: multiple models for module country: [new] In an updated database with b2ck only modules the actualization of translation results in multiple translation records for models of modul c ...21:08
CIA-10tryton: mathias.behrle@gmx.de * r467 /wiki/InstallationMercurial.wiki: Update optional deps21:20
CIA-10tryton: mathias.behrle@gmx.de * r468 /wiki/InstallationOnDebian.wiki: Update optional deps21:20
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #867/Client: Plugins mixed up when localized: [new] When running the client localized to Germany the items of the Plugin menu are mixed up: Translate view executes Print Workflow (Co ...21:45
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 1214:1dc2b82df2c3 tryton/share/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/ (tryton.mo tryton.po): Update translation for de_DE21:46
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #868/Please make "Try to find translation for new one " a wizard: [new] Changeset http://hg.tryton.org/hgwebdir.cgi/trytond/rev/d1afe23e1e87 introduced a heavy slowdown on acualization of translation. This feat ...22:34
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1215:585f8fff58f7 tryton/tryton/common/common.py: Fix selection to use the right keys for issue86722:39
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #867/Client: Plugins mixed up when localized: [resolved] Fix with changeset 585f8fff58f722:39
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #866/Translation: multiple models for module country: [testing] It must not be linked to the account_invoice_history module. Is it also happening with a fresh database?22:41
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 1:a4c545558446 google_translate/ (__tryton__.py de_DE.csv): Add translation for de_DE22:53
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #866/Translation: multiple models for module country: It doesn't at least happen in another updated database without this module installed.22:57
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1620:4a3b87fe1815 trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Fix typo in query23:18
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #868/Please make "Try to find translation for new one " a wizard: [resolved] The changeset 4a3b87fe1815 fix a typo in the query and now it will use the indexes.23:18
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