IRC logs of #tryton for Sunday, 2009-03-15

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sun Mar 15 00:00:01 CET 2009
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2009-03-15 13:14 <cristi_an> cedk: you told me once about a shortcut
2009-03-15 13:14 <cristi_an> how to add invoice lines
2009-03-15 13:14 <cristi_an> without using mouse
2009-03-15 13:17 <cedk> cristi_an: F3
2009-03-15 13:18 <cristi_an> oki thx
2009-03-15 13:18 <cristi_an> that is....i tried openerp invoice module
2009-03-15 13:19 <cristi_an> it can't be used without a mose
2009-03-15 13:19 <cristi_an> and when you have like 100 invoice to add,it is very hard to do that
2009-03-15 13:19 <cristi_an> each time putting your habd to the mouse
2009-03-15 13:19 <cristi_an> and back to keyboard
2009-03-15 13:21 <cedk> cristi_an: yes we know because we fixed it in Tryton :-)
2009-03-15 13:29 <cristi_an> cedk: i am glad yyou do that
2009-03-15 13:29 <cristi_an> is possible to add the shotcut as text optionally ?
2009-03-15 13:29 <cristi_an> to the button
2009-03-15 13:45 <cedk> cristi_an: I don't understand
2009-03-15 13:47 <udono1> cedk: he means a help="Shortcut=F3" on the Buttons...
2009-03-15 13:49 <cristi_an> yes
2009-03-15 13:49 <cristi_an> so for newbies to know...
2009-03-15 13:49 <cedk> cristi_an: it is in help>shortcut
2009-03-15 13:49 <cristi_an> so beside the new image to have the shotcut (optionaly)
2009-03-15 13:49 <cristi_an> let me see
2009-03-15 13:50 <cedk> this kind of shortcut are global in the all application so I don't think it is good to duplicate everywhere
2009-03-15 13:55 <cristi_an> ok ...but a tooltip at least
2009-03-15 13:57 <cedk> cristi_an: those shortcut are working everywhere, so I think it will overload the interface
2009-03-15 13:58 <cristi_an> k...but optional
2009-03-15 13:58 <cristi_an> since...trust me...plz people when they try and do not found something
2009-03-15 13:58 <cristi_an> the just forget about that product...
2009-03-15 13:59 <cristi_an> very fist impression they have to doa task from a to z
2009-03-15 13:59 <cristi_an> then is a success
2009-03-15 14:00 <cristi_an> f3 create a new realtion
2009-03-15 14:01 <cristi_an> f2 open/seach a new realtion
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2009-03-15 14:01 <cedk> cristi_an: it is in the help
2009-03-15 14:01 <cristi_an> i saw it...
2009-03-15 14:01 <cristi_an> but this is a description for a developer :)
2009-03-15 14:01 <cristi_an> relation
2009-03-15 14:02 <cedk> cristi_an: you can create an issue to propose better description
2009-03-15 14:02 <cristi_an> yee :)
2009-03-15 14:02 <cristi_an> i do not want t be mean
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2009-03-15 14:07 <CIA-10> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r469 /wiki/gsoc2009.wiki: Add Gantt chart
2009-03-15 14:19 <udono1> Is there a good python tool to generate Tryton module skeletons around? I've seen this on Plone for creating new Products. Any suggestions welcome.
2009-03-15 14:20 <cedk> udono1: Tryton module is just 2 files: __tryton__.py and __init__.py
2009-03-15 14:20 <udono1> cedk: :-)
2009-03-15 14:20 <cedk> __init__.py is just empty
2009-03-15 14:21 <cedk> and __tryton__.py ~5 lines
2009-03-15 14:21 <cedk> udono1: but if you mean code generator...
2009-03-15 14:21 <udono1> cedk: yes, more like this
2009-03-15 14:22 <cedk> udono1: for me, code generator are always bad
2009-03-15 14:28 <cedk> udono1: but you can try the dia module from OpenERP, it must not be difficult to adapt it for Tryton
2009-03-15 14:30 <udono1> cedk: no, not RAD, more I mean a real Skeleton Module with README, INSTALL, __tryton__.py module.py module.xml and so on. All stuff nicely parametrized... Just a generator which first request the parameters and then build the skeleton.
2009-03-15 14:31 <udono1> cedk: I know, there exist some for python, but don't know which is the best one...
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2009-03-15 14:41 <CIA-10> tryton: matb roundup * #869/Module test: [new] Module test is not displayed in the modules view. I think it should be like res, ir, ...
2009-03-15 14:48 <yangoon> cedk: I cannot push to trytond/tests, could you please fix permissions
2009-03-15 15:03 <CIA-10> tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 278:21ea20974058 account_invoice/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE
2009-03-15 15:03 <CIA-10> tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 2:41bf4cdcd65f account_invoice_history/__tryton__.py: Update translation for de_DE
2009-03-15 15:04 <cedk> yangoon: why do you want access to tests?
2009-03-15 15:04 <yangoon> cedk: translation
2009-03-15 15:07 <CIA-10> tryton: ced roundup * #869/Module test: [resolved] It is done on purpose because it is a technical module and nobody must install it except the unittest.
2009-03-15 15:07 <cedk> yangoon: no need to translate this module
2009-03-15 15:07 <cedk> yangoon: it is only for unittest
2009-03-15 15:10 <yangoon> cedk: I don't see the difference to module webdav, which also is only in use, if you configure webdav, but then please eliminate it from translation interface
2009-03-15 15:12 <cedk> yangoon: you have it because you install it
2009-03-15 15:13 <yangoon> cedk and the difference is?
2009-03-15 15:14 <cedk> yangoon: you must not install it. This is why it is hidden from the interface
2009-03-15 15:16 <yangoon> cedk yes, and the difference to webdav? I don't have to install it either, because it comes with the kernel.
2009-03-15 15:17 <cedk> yangoon: webdav provide functionnality
2009-03-15 15:17 <yangoon> cedk tests not?
2009-03-15 15:17 <CIA-10> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r470 /wiki/gsoc2009.wiki: Add graph library
2009-03-15 15:40 <cristi_an> is there a way to differenciate customers from EU comapred to others
2009-03-15 15:41 <cristi_an> since in romania if the partener is from EU there is a inverse taxation rule (i talked about)
2009-03-15 15:41 <cristi_an> and for some reports i need this information
2009-03-15 15:41 <cristi_an> autmatically
2009-03-15 15:41 <cristi_an> like a flag or so....
2009-03-15 15:47 <Timitos> cristi_an: i started a module for something like that. but it is outdated in the moment. http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/account_tax_system_de/
2009-03-15 15:48 <cristi_an> ok...i will take a look...
2009-03-15 15:48 <Timitos> cristi_an: it does not work in the moment. be careful
2009-03-15 15:49 <cristi_an> maybe to have like a flag inside countries xml data
2009-03-15 15:49 <cristi_an> that associates this infomation sto eu countries
2009-03-15 15:49 <cristi_an> it is better to have this even in party module
2009-03-15 15:49 <cristi_an> not as separate module...
2009-03-15 15:50 <cedk> yangoon: no, it is only for unittest
2009-03-15 15:50 <cedk> yangoon: it is used by the unittest script
2009-03-15 15:51 <cedk> I will make a post on the mailing-list to talk about taxes
2009-03-15 15:52 <cristi_an> gr8
2009-03-15 15:53 <cedk> the current behavior is not enough easy to customize because it needs development of new module
2009-03-15 15:53 <cristi_an> so you want to avoid doing that ?
2009-03-15 15:54 <cristi_an> for me is enough to add a check box EU and to handle that manually and that is extremly easy to do :)
2009-03-15 15:54 <cristi_an> so extednd party and add a boolean to party :)
2009-03-15 15:55 <cristi_an> it will solve my problems ...but if you want to do something very proffesrional i guess the program has to know from it;s xml default data if a country is eu or not no ?
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2009-03-15 16:06 <cedk> cristi_an: everything is not completly clear in my mind so I will post when I'll have a better vision
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2009-03-15 16:45 <Timitos> cristi_an: what we need is something generic. we need to analyse and create a new and better concept. it is better to think about first and than develop a generic solution.
2009-03-15 17:05 <cristi_an> sure
2009-03-15 17:06 <cristi_an> maybe is more about taxes then region.
2009-03-15 17:08 <cristi_an> yee but this is simple...at least for romania....
2009-03-15 17:09 <cristi_an> other programs from here. just mark an invoice as inverse taxation...
2009-03-15 17:13 <cristi_an> mark the invoice ia the best since then is not dependent on country...assume next month some other countries come in eu (albania or croatia)
2009-03-15 17:13 <cristi_an> then you do not have to do any change ...
2009-03-15 17:14 <cristi_an> if you mark the invoice as inverse taxation..
2009-03-15 17:14 <cristi_an> however maybe this is applied only for romania
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2009-03-15 18:18 <cedk> cristi_an: you inverse taxation is just a tax with two children taxes
2009-03-15 18:24 <CIA-10> tryton: matb roundup * #866/Translation: multiple models for module country: [resolved] Couldn't reproduce it in new database, neither in fixed old db
2009-03-15 18:56 <cristi_an> cedk: invese taxation here means: that you receive an invoice
2009-03-15 18:56 <cristi_an> but you do not appliy taxes on it and you register withoput taxes
2009-03-15 18:56 <cristi_an> but you have to evidence that tax in both journals
2009-03-15 18:57 <cristi_an> accounting move is 4426 = 4427
2009-03-15 18:58 <cristi_an> 371 = 401 total without VAT
2009-03-15 18:58 <Timitos> cristi_an: you mean intra-Community acquisition?
2009-03-15 18:58 <cristi_an> 4426=4427 Vat
2009-03-15 18:58 <cristi_an> yes
2009-03-15 18:58 <cristi_an> intra comunity aqusition
2009-03-15 18:59 <cristi_an> unfortunately i do not knwo english terms for this accounts now but i wil found them
2009-03-15 19:00 <cristi_an> Input VAT = outputVAt :)
2009-03-15 19:00 <Timitos> cristi_an: this is what cedk means. you can do this with a tax with two childs. but i still need to check if this solution works as i had a problem with this last days. but i had not time to check yet
2009-03-15 19:00 <cristi_an> that is the name of those two accounts
2009-03-15 19:00 <cristi_an> cool :)
2009-03-15 19:00 <cristi_an> i will be around here
2009-03-15 19:01 <cristi_an> when you have a solution plz let me know thx a lot
2009-03-15 19:02 <Timitos> cristi_an: you can look on our account chart http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/account_de_skr03_2008/
2009-03-15 19:02 <Timitos> cristi_an: there is such a tax solution defined
2009-03-15 19:02 <Timitos> the tax is called: Steuerfreier innergemeinschaftlicher Erwerb mit UST-Id Nr.
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2009-03-15 19:32 <cristi_an> ok thix
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2009-03-15 20:17 <CIA-10> tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 3:c485b84e8cfe account_invoice_history/ (__tryton__.py de_DE.csv): Add translation for de_DE
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2009-03-15 23:52 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1216:e03d8e5a2b1b tryton/tryton/gui/window/view_form/view/form_gtk/parser.py: Fix on_write name clash
2009-03-15 23:52 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1217:920881c768cb tryton/tryton/gui/window/view_form/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
2009-03-15 23:52 <CIA-10> tryton: Force call of on_write after action
2009-03-15 23:52 <CIA-10> tryton: Use a better reload behavior to group calls
2009-03-15 23:52 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1621:66099027209e trytond/trytond/ir/module/ (module.py module.xml): Add on_write on ir.module.module for issue811
2009-03-15 23:52 <CIA-10> tryton: ced roundup * #811/Modules: Refresh list automatically: [resolved] Fix with changeset 66099027209e

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