IRC logs of #tryton for Sunday, 2009-03-22

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sun Mar 22 00:00:01 CET 2009
cristi_ancedk: jusat give me material to dream ....:)00:04
cristi_anpurchase unit price  and cost price  , what do they have in common ?00:05
cristi_angood nighr maybe later then00:10
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 1225:c8e41b6810b6 tryton/share/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/ (tryton.mo tryton.po): Update translation for de_DE00:23
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 1656:22e85c103a63 trytond/trytond/ (ir/de_DE.csv webdav/de_DE.csv): Update translation for de_DE00:23
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 407:31029b07294b account/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:23
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 292:3daca8ba4c1c account_invoice/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:23
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 38:469cb167b1b9 account_product/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 119:deb9f2a5018e account_statement/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 66:8cf4aedc966a analytic_account/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 37:2c18cb432968 analytic_sale/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 137:ad7375aec8af company/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 246:eeb4f91e5aa1 party/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 137:1305f445bcd3 product/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 272:aa4aeee5a68d purchase/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 151:c67ba318cccf sale/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 519:f98effcd0cf3 stock/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 179:ffde2e24f11a stock_supply/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:24
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 66:ff00bb1a30eb timesheet/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE00:25
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CIA-10tryton: carlos roundup * #888/__history tables need an update when new modules are activated: [new] When you install a new Tryton module that modifies any object that has a __history table attached, Tryton will be broken, because the __hist ...08:51
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CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #889/Translation: items always marked fuzzy: [new] I have constantly these items reappearing as fuzzy, but never saved to csv: "Invoices" "Rechnungseingang" "True" "ir.ui.menu,name" "Deutsch ...11:34
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CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #872/Translation: translated items reappearing as fuzzy: [resolved] Will reopen if this issue occurs again. So far I cannot reproduce.12:15
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CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #890/Translation: module test: [new] Since module test is not scheduled to be translated it shouldn't appear in the translation table.12:37
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 408:446fbcfe3e10 account/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE12:51
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 293:4ac9cbaafc4f account_invoice/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE12:51
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 152:1008337b4d18 sale/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE12:51
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 520:d3f97e846206 stock/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE12:52
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CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #872/Translation: translated items reappearing as fuzzy: [chatting] Have to reopen: Joining another screenshot (fuzzy_items2.png), that was taken after 1) translating and umarking fuzzy all items in db1 ...13:09
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 180:49e6f70d7406 stock_supply/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE13:23
cristi_ancedk: maybe i expressed myself wrong in forum since we  did not understood each other :)13:29
cristi_anis there any things that make fixed cost price and product buying price, related ? are these two entities related ?13:30
cedkcristi_an: no13:36
cristi_ancedk: ok then ,where fixed cost price is used then ?13:37
cedkcristi_an: where you want13:38
cristi_ank :) but as it is now is not used in accountig ?13:39
cristi_ani ask this because is nto clear to me how products are taken from stock right now13:39
cristi_anin a fifo case it would have been clear.13:40
cristi_anso if i have different buy price for the same products...how they are sold in which order ...13:40
cedkcristi_an: we used the price that you enter in the purchase13:40
cristi_ank. but i might have 10 products bought with 10 euro and 10 of smae product with 12 euro.13:41
cristi_anwhen i sell one rpudctuct from which "lot" the sell takes the product13:41
cristi_anif there is fifo is clear...it ends up the 10 euro stock ,the 12 euro etc13:42
cristi_anif 10 euro stock was bought first13:42
cedkcristi_an: we don't care13:42
cristi_anok13:43
cedkcristi_an: I don'T understand what you said13:43
cristi_anwhat part :(13:43
cedkcristi_an: yo talk once about fixed cost price, after about average price and now FIFO cost price13:43
cristi_anyes since , in romania cost price is defined as the price you paided for a product (include price + transport cost and so on)13:45
cristi_anusally cost price is not fixed13:45
cristi_anand it is the price of the product that is written on the purchase invoice13:46
cristi_anso here cost price = buy price13:46
cristi_anfurhter when a product is sold...i will not giver you all account moves...but finaly cost price and sell price intersects and ==> so called profit  sell price - cost price13:47
cedkcristi_an: why do you need this ?13:48
cedkcristi_an: like I already said, profit is in account chart13:48
cristi_anindeed it is13:49
cristi_anbased on income - expeses13:50
cristi_anaccounts13:50
cristi_anin romani 7xx and 6xx acounts13:50
cristi_anlike in france13:50
cristi_anwaht you miss maybe and i forgot to tell you....13:51
cristi_anis that i (we) keep stocks in accountig13:51
cedkcristi_an: we don't do that for now13:52
cristi_anthat is why you do not care...!!!!!!!13:52
cristi_anStocks de matieres premieres et fournitures13:54
cristi_anhttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/109016/13:55
cristi_anso you do not use these accounts for now ?13:56
cristi_anwhen account moves are generated for invoices ?13:57
cedkcristi_an: no, and I'm not sure that it must be done on invoice14:01
cristi_ani am very sure.14:03
cristi_anlook on every erp ,from adempiere to...sap14:04
cristi_anit is related to stock valuation14:04
yangooncedk: I cannot find any more the wizard for creating purchases from purchase requests14:05
yangooncedk: Am I blind or do I miss something?14:05
cristi_anhttp://tutor2u.net/business/presentations/accounts/stockvaluation/default.html14:06
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carloscedk: hi, do you have 5 minutes to talk about taxes?14:41
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CIA-10tryton: udo.spallek * r473 /wiki/DocumentationClient.wiki: Deleting wiki page DocumentationClient.15:06
cristi_ancedk: i have a very very nice with carlos15:33
cristi_anand i came up to the ideea that tryton si way to different for our custom stocks15:34
cristi_anand acounting from romania15:34
cristi_ani will have to do them by myself :)15:34
CIA-10tryton: udono roundup * #891/Printing general ledger, selecting: Posted Move, error:: [new] [Sun Mar 22 14:25:01 2009] ERROR:sql:Wrong SQL: SELECT COALESCE(SUM((COALESCE(debit, 0) - COALESCE(credit, 0))), 0)::NUMERIC FROM account_mo ...15:58
CIA-10tryton: udono roundup * #884/psycopg2.IntegrityError: NULL-Wert in Spalte »id« verletzt Not-Null-Constraint: No, from a in between devel version. It is not this important for me that I can update the database, but I wanted to log the error here.16:01
CIA-10tryton: udono roundup * #884/psycopg2.IntegrityError: NULL-Wert in Spalte »id« verletzt Not-Null-Constraint: latest changesets for the installation were: changeset: 1591:7e31c0ecad02 tag: tip parent: 1590:2996be0038d2 parent: 1589:8e8c ...16:03
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CIA-10tryton: carlos roundup * #892/Chart of Accounts upgrade wizard performance is really bad: [new] While doing the migration to Tryton, I found that I had to do a change in my Spanish chart of accounts to fit better with the way Tryton han ...17:25
CIA-10tryton: matb roundup * #893/Wizards not displayed: [new] (Since last changes of the client layout?) some wizards are not displayed any more on views: Purchase Requests: Create Purchase from Purcha ...18:00
CIA-10tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 247:ad434ec35f22 party/__tryton__.py: Update translation for de_DE18:17
pantherafinally, tryton was accepted..18:20
pantheranow i'll upgrade to latest 1.0.x in a few hours.18:20
pantherayangoon: it would be nice if you could comment on the server package. i think it's not that good yet.18:20
yangoonpanthera: TATAAA!!!!!!!!!!!18:21
yangoonpanthera: which comment exactly?18:21
pantherayangoon: i want you to test it and tell me if it works for you.18:21
yangoonok, will do in a few minutes18:22
udonopanthera: Very Great! You did it! thanks a lot :-)18:27
pantherafinally, it's quite an odyssee.18:27
udonopanthera: About Debians structure of decisions I just know the small debian column in Linux Magazin. So I believe it have to be an odyssee ;-)18:30
carlospanthera: cool18:42
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yangoonpanthera: where can I find the server package? I cannot find on http://daniel.debian.net/repositories/tryton/ nor in sid18:53
pantherayangoon: it's a mess, i'm currently cleaning up my different package archives and merging them all into one:18:59
pantherahttp://archive.undebian.org/debian/packages-daniel/18:59
yangoonok, thx18:59
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cristi_ancedk: present ?19:57
cristi_anor here ?19:58
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yangoonpanthera: are you available?20:24
pantherayangoon: in 5 minutes, yes.20:39
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pantherayangoon: now i am20:49
yangoonpanthera: just working on the server package20:50
yangoonthere are some reminiscences from tinyerp package20:50
yangoonpanthera: I will send you an adjusted tryton-server.postinst20:51
pantherayangoon: that would be great20:52
yangoonand an updated README20:52
yangoonpanthera: is it necessary for tinyerp to chown the conf file to the system user?20:53
pantherayangoon: for tinyerp, it was. not sure if it's still the case for openerp though.20:54
yangoonpanthera: I think we can drop this20:54
yangoonpanthera: trytond.conf has to be renamed tryton-server.conf20:55
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yangoonpanthera: and the include in the init script to . /etc/default/tryton-server as well20:57
pantherayangoon: ack20:57
yangoonpanthera: furthermore you can change /etc/default/tryton-server to #VERBOSE="-v"20:59
yangoonpanthera: double vv has no effect20:59
pantherayangoon: are you familiar with git? do you like to commit directly?20:59
yangoonpanthera: not really familiar, no21:00
yangoonbut it shouldn't be too complicated?21:00
pantherapretty easy :)21:01
yangoonpanthera: so we can try:)21:01
pantherayangoon: mom, i'll paste you what i wrote to some other guy recently..21:02
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juanferHello, I'm new in tryton, and when I try to install the modules I have problems:22:01
juanferhg clone http://hg.tryton.org/modules/module_name22:01
juanferabort: requirement '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>' not supported!22:01
juanferAny idea?22:01
juanferI have mercurial 1.2-122:02
yangoonjuanfer: you have to replace module_name with the name of a real eyisting module22:11
yangoonjuanfer: http://hg.tryton.org/modules22:11
juanfer :-) thx22:12
juanfersorry22:12
yangoonjuanfer: there you see the names of the currently available modules22:12
juanferyangoon I still have the problem  hg clone http://hg.tryton.org/modules22:14
juanferabort: requirement '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>' not supported!22:14
yangoonjuanfer: :D22:14
yangoonjuanfer: try something like hg clone http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account22:15
yangoonjuanfer: best will be to use the download skript22:15
yangoonjuanfer: it fetches all sources22:15
juanferyes it works22:15
juanferthx22:16
yangoonjuanfer: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationMercurial22:16
CIA-10tryton: carlos roundup * #894/account_statement broken with latest invoice layout update: [new] With the changeset 291 82d54c2f9c33 of account_invoice, the account_statement module is broken because the view override is not valid anymor ...22:17
cedkpanthera: I just saw that you will rename the configuration file into tryton-server.conf, I find it is not very judicious because all the doc from Tryton will use the name trytond.conf for this file22:22
pantheracedk: agreed.22:24
carlosI need to share this with someone else... Tryton translation system sucks sooo much...22:24
carloslots of duplicated strings translated over and over again... exports done one by one instead of as a tarball...22:24
pantheracedk: but then we should probably also drop the /usr/bin/tryton-server symlink.22:24
carloscedk: as soon as I get some spare time, I will work on a propossal to fix all that22:25
cedkcarlos: this is necessary because of the modularity of the system22:25
pantheracedk: and use trytond, except for the package name, consistenly.22:25
carloscedk: sure, but offering a tarball with a set of files, one per module would be quite helpful and also possible22:25
cedkcarlos: don't understand22:26
carloscedk: when I want to export the translations22:26
yangoonpanthera: lets do that, only server package named as tryton-server22:26
carlosas .csv to include them in a branch22:26
carlosI need to select one by one22:26
yangoonpanthera: or does it strike any policy?22:26
carlosinstead of getting an export for all modules22:26
yangooni.e. in /etc/default?22:27
cedkcarlos: you can write a script in 10 min to do the job22:27
carloscedk: sure, but that's not an option for translators that are not developers22:27
carlosthat's why I said that I will try to work on a propossal to improve it22:28
cedkcarlos: export csv take less then 5 min22:28
cedkcarlos: and for me you must translate module by module22:28
yangooncedk: and aching right hand, from the mouse clicks;)22:28
carloscedk: I'm doing a revision and fixing common terms accross all modules22:29
yangooncedk: no, thats not fortunate, because you have strings all over the modulkes and you want to be consistent22:29
pantherayangoon: well, as you said previously, the /etc/default/* should go away anyway22:30
carloscedk: anyway, I'm used to translation systems completely different to the one used in Tryton, so I guess is also a matter of get used to it...22:30
pantherayangoon: but unrelated to that, it's not against policy. so it's ok.22:30
yangoonpanthera: we should merge /etc/default/* into the init script?22:31
pantherayangoon: yes22:32
pantherayangoon: or into /etc/trytond.conf22:32
pantheraor something22:32
yangoonpanthera: ok, we shouldn't make work twice, I will make it, if you don't have objections22:44
pantherayangoon: i'm busy with upgrading to 1.0.1 and then to 1.0.222:46
pantherayangoon: i'm not going to do such any other things on the packages before next wednesday, so just go ahead.22:47
yangoonpanthera: ok, I will not finish today, too, for sure22:48
pantherayangoon: no problem. thank you very much anyway ;)22:49
yangoonpanthera: thx a lot to you!22:49
yangoonpanthera: so I will rename all back to trytond, except for the package name22:51
pantherayangoon: yes. i think it's the best we can do.22:52
yangoonpanthera: ack22:52
juanferto habilitate forest I just must edit the file /etc/mercurial/hgrc and copy file forest.py to the directory /usr/local/src/hgforest ?23:07
carlosgood night23:10
yangoonjuanfer: just look at http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationMercurial23:12
yangoonjuanfer: cd /usr/local/src/23:13
yangoonsudo hg clone http://hg.akoha.org/hgforest/23:13
juanferI'm use mercurial 1.2 and I download hg clone http://bitbucket.org/pmezard/hgforest-crew/ because in the page of hgforest say that it could work for 1.2, I will try.23:14
juanferhttp://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/ForestExtension23:15
yangoonjuanfer: so good luck!23:17
yangoonafk23:17
juanferthx23:17
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1657:a4e7c448a966 trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Convert fuzzy into boolean23:24
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1658:f5b0bad158cf trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Use root user to create translations23:24
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1659:675f426406fb trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Fix typo23:24
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1660:065380235210 trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Try to automaticly translate non modified translation23:24
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1661:3e5d7e037f62 trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Remove duplicate test23:24
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1662:3ae805543dad trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Use root user to write translation23:24
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1663:3eac5bcb7114 trytond/trytond/res/request.py: Add missing string23:24
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1664:7ac35ba4a283 trytond/trytond/backend/postgresql/table.py: Set default value for id and __id column for issue88623:24
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #886/add id column but records exist causing integrity error: [resolved] Fix with changeset 7ac35ba4a28323:24
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #872/Translation: translated items reappearing as fuzzy: [testing] I think it could be fixed with changeset 3ae805543dad23:26
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #890/Translation: module test: [resolved] We won't want to pollute the code for unittest script. And I already said, you must not install it.23:27
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #889/Translation: items not exported to csv: [resolved] The workflow.activity must not be exported as there are not linked to modules.23:28
panthera.oO(debian 1.0.1 upload finished, puuh)23:34
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 409:bcef262c7dc9 account/move.py:23:36
CIA-10tryton: Prevent exception in on_change_party of move if party has not receivable nor23:36
CIA-10tryton: payable account for issue89123:36
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #891/Printing general ledger, selecting: Posted Move, error:: [resolved] Fix in 1.1 with changeset bcef262c7dc9. The title must be wrong because it doesn't correspond to the traceback. I will push in 1.0 in o ...23:38
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #885/Contact mechanisms entries lost when sorted by field: [testing] I don't understand. I can not reproduce and as there is a sequence on contact mechanisms, the sort on list is disabled.23:41
cedkpanthera: could you send me all the info to prepare a news23:44
CIA-10tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 120:5094403c0ad0 account_statement/invoice.xml: Fix xpath for issue89323:48
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #894/account_statement broken with latest invoice layout update: [resolved] Fix with changeset 5094403c0ad023:49
CIA-10tryton: ced roundup * #893/Wizards not displayed: [testing] Must be fixed with changeset 7b44a080fde123:53

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