IRC logs of #tryton for Thursday, 2009-09-03

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2009-09-03 01:14 <CIA-2> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1978:448c5a919032 trytond/trytond/backend/sqlite/database.py: Add split_part function to SQLite
2009-09-03 01:14 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/448c5a919032
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2009-09-03 08:25 <gour> huh, was already afraid something happened with #tryton, but it was just net-split :-)
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2009-09-03 09:45 <CIA-2> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1394:fccc77af5d8f tryton/tryton/gui/window/ (dbcreate.py dbdumpdrop.py dbrestore.py): Remove old url for server connection
2009-09-03 09:45 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton/rev/fccc77af5d8f
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2009-09-03 11:02 <gour> if i'd make the module for handling patients in tryton and would like to use it as database back-end for another desktop app written in haskell, what would be the optimal protocol for communication between haskell client and tryton?
2009-09-03 11:09 <Timitos> gour: i think xml-rpc or net-rpc. there are some code snippets in the wiki: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/CodeSnippets
2009-09-03 11:12 <cedk> netrpc is only for python
2009-09-03 11:17 <gour> yeah...there is xml-rpc for haskell
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2009-09-03 12:07 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 1979:7ae301ff234a trytond/trytond/ir/date.py: Allow rpc on today() of ir.date
2009-09-03 12:07 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/7ae301ff234a
2009-09-03 12:07 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 81:2de072dd2ce8 currency/currency.py: Allow rpc of compute()
2009-09-03 12:07 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/currency/rev/2de072dd2ce8
2009-09-03 12:07 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 82:9aaba992833d currency/currency.py: Added ondelete cascade between currency and rate
2009-09-03 12:07 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/currency/rev/9aaba992833d
2009-09-03 12:07 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 83:c9751bbe5a11 currency/tests/test_currency.py: Added tests
2009-09-03 12:07 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/currency/rev/c9751bbe5a11
2009-09-03 12:19 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 84:02bb9c322eb6 currency/currency.py: Fix _rpc usage
2009-09-03 12:19 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/currency/rev/02bb9c322eb6
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2009-09-03 12:32 <CIA-2> matb roundup * #1147/Tax rounding issue with one line:
2009-09-03 12:32 <CIA-2> [new] Creating an invoice line with
2009-09-03 12:32 <CIA-2> 123.75 h x 50 and tax 19% results in tryon to base 6187.50 and tax amount 1175.62
2009-09-03 12:32 <CIA-2> but it calculates to 1175 ...
2009-09-03 12:32 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1147
2009-09-03 12:38 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 1980:3b464dfd0453 trytond/trytond/ir/date.py: Fix _rpc usage
2009-09-03 12:38 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/3b464dfd0453
2009-09-03 12:46 <CIA-2> ced roundup * #1147/Tax rounding issue with one line:
2009-09-03 12:46 <CIA-2> [invalid] It is correct. The rounding method uses is half to even.
2009-09-03 12:46 <CIA-2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding#Round_half_to_even
2009-09-03 12:46 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1147
2009-09-03 12:59 <CIA-2> paepke roundup * #1147/Tax rounding issue with one line:
2009-09-03 12:59 <CIA-2> [chatting] at least in germany there is a DIN 1333 Norm: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1333
2009-09-03 12:59 <CIA-2> these are the examples extracted from the german ...
2009-09-03 12:59 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1147
2009-09-03 12:59 <CIA-2> matb roundup * #1147/Tax rounding issue with one line: Ok, then we will have to discuss for Germany, if this method is acceptable according to German accounting provisions. Because AFAIK in Germany we ...
2009-09-03 12:59 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1147
2009-09-03 13:10 <CIA-2> ced roundup * #1147/Tax rounding issue with one line: I find that the half away from zero is not good for accounting because there is never or not very often negative amount to counterbalance the uppe ...
2009-09-03 13:10 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1147
2009-09-03 13:28 <CIA-2> matb roundup * #1148/Client does not connect to server started afterwards: [new] If the server is started after the client (or restarted), the client does not connect any more, but has to be restarted, too.
2009-09-03 13:28 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1148
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2009-09-03 16:28 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 202:df9ed75b68ff stock_supply/product.py: Removed dead code
2009-09-03 16:28 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/stock_supply/rev/df9ed75b68ff
2009-09-03 17:18 <gour> i was wondering why trytond is failing to start here and after enabling stdin/stderr in init script i found out the following - http://dpaste.com/89126/
2009-09-03 17:18 <gour> is it possible to get some more gracious feedback due to wrong paths in trytond.conf ?
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2009-09-03 17:27 <gour> cedk: here is the mail i got from medical dev - http://dpaste.com/89129/
2009-09-03 17:35 <bechamel> gour: he didn't care to answer your question
2009-09-03 17:37 <gour> bechamel: well, he is, at least, informed about it
2009-09-03 17:38 <bechamel> gour: yes
2009-09-03 17:40 <gour> bechamel: however, maybe it's better to start from the scratch and write more general module which can be useful for wider audience...something like gcstar - e.g. http://www.gcstar.org/images/screenshots/screen1.png
2009-09-03 17:40 <gour> what do you think?
2009-09-03 17:43 <carlos> gour: I guess it depends on how fast do you need something and how easy is to port it to Tryton
2009-09-03 17:44 <gour> carlos: well, porting medical to triton would certainly involve lot of stripping 'cause our environment is quite different
2009-09-03 17:44 <Timitos> gour: if you have the time it is always better first to create a small generic module and to extend it by custom modules
2009-09-03 17:45 <bechamel> it depends of the analyse you will do (or you already have done) and it's difficult to answer you because I don't know how you work and what do you need exactly, it depends how the medical module can fit or not with your workflow. Moreover it depends also on some stuff that doens't seems to be well designed in the medical module
2009-09-03 17:45 <Timitos> such modules could be reused more easy
2009-09-03 17:45 <gour> i just tested SSL with tryton and did not have tiem to start even with 'hello world' module for tryton, so it's difficult to say how different are the two envs
2009-09-03 17:46 <gour> yeah, i'm also for careful analysis and not rushing...for the beginning we can track those client's data somewhere and enter 'em later into proper system which can incrementally evolve
2009-09-03 17:47 <gour> however, whatever route i choose i have to master tryton development a bit :-)
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2009-09-03 18:02 <CIA-2> ced@b2ck.com * r735 /wiki/HelloWorld.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2009-09-03 18:02 <CIA-2> ced@b2ck.com * r736 /wiki/BuildingRPMs.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2009-09-03 18:02 <CIA-2> ced@b2ck.com * r737 /wiki/InstallationOnDebian.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2009-09-03 18:02 <CIA-2> ced@b2ck.com * r738 /wiki/InstallationOnDebian.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2009-09-03 18:02 <CIA-2> ced@b2ck.com * r739 /wiki/InstallationOnMandriva.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
2009-09-03 18:06 <cedk> Guys, release 1.4 is coming, any help is welcome to reach to goals: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/Release_1_4_0 or any TODO in repos
2009-09-03 18:12 <Timitos> cedk: maybe i can take this one: Allow to use email in place of request
2009-09-03 18:12 <Timitos> cedk: as i need to leave soon today i will talk to you tomorrow about this
2009-09-03 18:15 <cedk> Timitos: that is not a little job :-)
2009-09-03 18:15 <cedk> Timitos: for me, it is the harder of the list
2009-09-03 18:16 <Timitos> cedk: i think all of them are not that little. i don't know about your ideas of this part. maybe i do not see your intention
2009-09-03 18:17 <Timitos> cedk: do you want to create a full email-client instead of request?
2009-09-03 18:17 <cedk> Timitos: globally, it is to allow to receive email instead of request
2009-09-03 18:17 <cedk> Timitos: yes
2009-09-03 18:17 <yangoon> cedk I have someone willing to test and contribute (evtl.) to oracle backend, who has a full licence
2009-09-03 18:17 <Timitos> cedk: ok. then this is not a little job :-) but interesting
2009-09-03 18:18 <cedk> Timitos: but it can start simply with a email warning
2009-09-03 18:18 <yangoon> cedk: but I think it is too short until release date
2009-09-03 18:18 <cedk> yangoon: it can be started and we will see
2009-09-03 18:18 <cedk> yangoon: even integrated for beta
2009-09-03 18:19 <Timitos> cedk: lets talk tomorrow
2009-09-03 18:21 <cedk> yangoon: sqlite port was pretty fast
2009-09-03 18:21 <cedk> yangoon: and perhaps the most complicate as it is not full SQL compliant
2009-09-03 18:23 <yangoon> cedk: I will have to take a look and ask the interested party
2009-09-03 18:23 <yangoon> cedk: I have neither oracle nor DB2
2009-09-03 18:25 <cedk> yangoon: it should be a good marketing stuff to have Oracle backend
2009-09-03 18:25 <cedk> yangoon: by the way, did you test my patch?
2009-09-03 18:25 <yangoon> cedk: for the marketing: YES
2009-09-03 18:26 <yangoon> cedk: for the patch: still testing;) seems not to change anything
2009-09-03 18:27 <yangoon> cedk: second run with account and party_bank preinstalled now takes 120 min and is not finished
2009-09-03 18:27 <yangoon> cedk: first run with only party_bank installed took exactly the same time as without patch
2009-09-03 18:27 <yangoon> cedk: ans yes, the patch is installed:)
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2009-09-03 18:31 <cedk> yangoon: for the installation, we can not really improve it
2009-09-03 18:31 <cedk> yangoon: it is for the update
2009-09-03 18:33 <yangoon> cedk: ok, update is next step
2009-09-03 18:35 <cedk> yangoon: for install, the only thing we see, will be to drop indexes to speed up the INSERT
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2009-09-03 18:39 <yangoon> cedk: could be a good point, as indexing seems to take a lot of time
2009-09-03 18:40 <yangoon> cedk: can this be made inside the transaction?
2009-09-03 18:41 <cedk> yangoon: I don't think
2009-09-03 18:42 <yangoon> cedk: then it is dangerous when the install breaks
2009-09-03 18:44 <cedk> yangoon: why?
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2009-09-03 18:47 <yangoon> cedk: dangerous is too much said: if someone interrupts the long install, he is left behind without the indices
2009-09-03 18:48 <cedk> yangoon: which is not a real issue
2009-09-03 18:50 <yangoon> cedk: the indices of which you are speaking are those automatically created by postgres?
2009-09-03 18:56 <cedk> yangoon: no, I don't think postgres create automatically indexes
2009-09-03 19:08 <CIA-2> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1981:5586a3010cf4 trytond/ (CHANGELOG TODO trytond/model/modelview.py): Use the module dependency order to apply views that inherits
2009-09-03 19:08 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/5586a3010cf4
2009-09-03 19:08 <CIA-2> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1982:caec6eac53ee trytond/trytond/ir/date.py: merge
2009-09-03 19:08 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/caec6eac53ee
2009-09-03 19:09 <CIA-2> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1983:8d5707580904 trytond/CHANGELOG: Add missing CHANGELOG
2009-09-03 19:09 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/8d5707580904
2009-09-03 19:11 <CIA-2> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 85:75d651d3bbc0 currency/CHANGELOG: Add missing CHANGELOG
2009-09-03 19:11 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/currency/rev/75d651d3bbc0
2009-09-03 19:24 <gour> ACTION is going to start playing with tryton by trying out 'hello world' module from the wiki (it would be nice if the text would be polished a little bit)
2009-09-03 19:26 <gour> since the server has to be aware of all the modules available, there is no way to extend the default path where he server can find them?
2009-09-03 19:27 <gour> i'm asking in regards to development process...how is it possible to work 'locally'?
2009-09-03 19:32 <cedk> gour: no because the module name must be unique
2009-09-03 19:32 <cedk> gour: but I work with symlink
2009-09-03 19:33 <gour> (except fiddling with ..'modules' folder's perms)
2009-09-03 19:33 <cedk> gour: locally, you mean not root?
2009-09-03 19:34 <gour> yep
2009-09-03 19:34 <cedk> gour: you can download the source in your local folder
2009-09-03 19:34 <gour> server is installed system-wide
2009-09-03 19:34 <cedk> gour: installation is for production
2009-09-03 19:34 <gour> heh, i'm aware of that possibility...ok
2009-09-03 19:35 <cedk> gour: it is like that I work
2009-09-03 19:36 <gour> cedk: it looks that i should keep releases for the packaging and install locally from the trunk for playing/learning/developing...
2009-09-03 19:37 <gour> iirc, wiki mentions forest-extension, probably to have all the modules in a proper place...i was trying with hg, but then used bzr more (when wanting to migrate from darcs), but now i'm back on darcs :-)
2009-09-03 19:38 <cedk> gour: I wrote a script that fetch all in once
2009-09-03 19:38 <gour> cedk: cool. where it is?
2009-09-03 19:38 <cedk> http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationMercurial#Automatic_Way
2009-09-03 19:39 <cedk> gour: if you plan to write module for 1.2, you should use the 1.2 branch
2009-09-03 19:40 <gour> cedk: i believe 1.4 will be out sooner than i'd be able to write a module :-)
2009-09-03 19:40 <gour> except if tryton really has RAPID learning curve :-D
2009-09-03 19:42 <gour> ACTION is fetching with the script
2009-09-03 19:42 <cedk> gour: 1.4 is for 19 October, see http://www.tryton.org/community/calendar.html
2009-09-03 19:42 <gour> cedk: yes, it's 'close'
2009-09-03 19:43 <gour> ACTION thinks there are too many DVC-s outside
2009-09-03 19:43 <gour> *DVCS-s
2009-09-03 19:45 <gour> ahh, 'Clone module analytic_account failed!' due to abort: destination '/home/gour/repos/hg/hgforest' is not empty :-/
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2009-09-03 21:00 <gour> i'm trying to run tryton locally from the trunk - here is what i got - http://dpaste.com/89220/
2009-09-03 21:16 <gour> ahh, the symlink for modules was wrong...now it's ok
2009-09-03 21:18 <gour> ACTION is running dev server 1.3.0 :-)
2009-09-03 23:33 <vengfulsquirrel> This is a very broad question so don't kill me. If I'm having seemingly unpredictable performance problems where would I start debugging those?
2009-09-03 23:39 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: your code :-)
2009-09-03 23:39 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: or better last changes
2009-09-03 23:41 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: joke apart, generally, I start by putting a print statement of the queries in backend/postgresql/database.py in cursor.execute
2009-09-03 23:41 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: most of the time, it is a bad code that generate a lot of SQL queries
2009-09-03 23:41 <vengfulsquirrel> Yeah its pretty much always been a problem, maybe my computer is just too slow.
2009-09-03 23:41 <vengfulsquirrel> Okay that's a good idea
2009-09-03 23:42 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: did you have the same with the demo server?
2009-09-03 23:42 <vengfulsquirrel> Like loading the list of sales right now takes about 5 minutes and uses over 50% of my cpu
2009-09-03 23:42 <vengfulsquirrel> Oh yeah I can try that
2009-09-03 23:42 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: how much sales?
2009-09-03 23:42 <vengfulsquirrel> ha hold on let me list them
2009-09-03 23:43 <vengfulsquirrel> Is the code for the demo server open ?
2009-09-03 23:43 <vengfulsquirrel> Maybe its a relation I added to customer shipments.
2009-09-03 23:44 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: what do you mean by code?
2009-09-03 23:46 <vengfulsquirrel> Like during development if I find something that I think is a problem but not my problem to try it out on trunk I need to initial the database with data that satisfies all the necessary relations.
2009-09-03 23:46 <vengfulsquirrel> *initialize
2009-09-03 23:47 <vengfulsquirrel> So I guess like the code that initializes the database for the demo server.
2009-09-03 23:47 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: the demo runs the last version from mercurial of branch 1.2
2009-09-03 23:59 <vengfulsquirrel> 82 sales

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