IRC logs of #tryton for Thursday, 2009-09-10

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2009-09-10 01:13 <CIA-2> sxuard * r752 /wiki/fr/ (wiki/HelloWorld.wiki wiki):
2009-09-10 01:14 <CIA-2> sxuard * r753 /wiki/HelloWorld.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
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2009-09-10 08:59 <CIA-2> ced@b2ck.com * r760 /wiki/HelloWorld.wiki: Rollback HelloWorld.wiki to r740
2009-09-10 08:59 <CIA-2> ced@b2ck.com * r761 /wiki/fr/ (HelloWorld.wiki wiki): Move fr translation to the right folder
2009-09-10 08:59 <CIA-2> ced@b2ck.com * r762 /wiki/fr/HelloWorld.wiki: Fix encoding
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2009-09-10 11:58 <cedk> Hi, I just find an issue when working on ldap_authentification
2009-09-10 11:59 <cedk> to be able to synchronise the change of password for a LDAP user, I need to know the previous password
2009-09-10 11:59 <cedk> And in the function set_preferences, we have not
2009-09-10 12:00 <cedk> So I propose to add in the client a dialog box that asks for the current password when a user change a preference
2009-09-10 12:00 <paepke> cedk: why not providing the previous password by the user?
2009-09-10 12:00 <paepke> cedk: yes. i agree
2009-09-10 12:00 <paepke> great to hear that youre working on that
2009-09-10 12:01 <cedk> I think it is a good security enforcement that will prevent anybody to change the password of a user that is no more in front of his computer and not yet timeout
2009-09-10 12:02 <Timitos> cedk: sounds very good
2009-09-10 12:07 <CIA-2> matb roundup * #1167/Make display of status bar configurable:
2009-09-10 12:07 <CIA-2> Uploaded to http://codereview.appspot.com/115085
2009-09-10 12:07 <CIA-2> Please review.
2009-09-10 12:07 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1167
2009-09-10 12:11 <cedk> it is also possible to ask the previous password only if it has changed
2009-09-10 12:11 <cedk> which one is better?
2009-09-10 12:13 <bechamel> cedk: it's better to ask for password only when the user change it, it's not good to ask for password only if the user change his langage
2009-09-10 12:15 <carlos> bechamel++
2009-09-10 12:15 <udono> cedk: hi, asks for the current password before a user can change the password.
2009-09-10 12:16 <yangoon> bechamel +
2009-09-10 12:16 <udono> cedk: and it would be good to have a double password entry check when changing the password
2009-09-10 12:17 <paepke> cedk: only ask for old password on change.
2009-09-10 12:17 <cedk> udono: I don't think it is realy useful because people copy/paste
2009-09-10 12:18 <paepke> cedk: normal users don't copy+paste ;-)
2009-09-10 12:18 <udono> cedk: once you have input a typo it is impossible to login...
2009-09-10 12:19 <bechamel> udono: +1
2009-09-10 12:19 <udono> cedk: afaik it is usual on password change to check two fields.
2009-09-10 12:20 <udono> cedk: take a look at db_create in the client
2009-09-10 12:21 <paepke> cedk: please have an option not to change the password when using ldap. for example on an active directory connection. users should change password via normal window-utilities
2009-09-10 12:22 <cedk> paepke: but they can do also from other place
2009-09-10 12:23 <paepke> cedk: yes of course.
2009-09-10 12:24 <cedk> paepke: so why an option that will introduce new code with error message that explain to the user that he can not change his password from here etc.
2009-09-10 12:24 <paepke> cedk: no. just disable the change password button
2009-09-10 12:25 <cedk> paepke: what about local users ?
2009-09-10 12:25 <cedk> paepke: and still why prevent user to change his password
2009-09-10 12:25 <paepke> cedk: you want to allow a mix of local and non-local users?
2009-09-10 12:26 <cedk> paepke: in good security environement they must change every month
2009-09-10 12:26 <cedk> paepke: yes of course
2009-09-10 12:26 <paepke> cedk: on some environments its not allowed on the ldap server to change password from remote machines.
2009-09-10 12:26 <cedk> paepke: so there will be a exception
2009-09-10 12:28 <paepke> cedk: isn't it better to help the user not getting an error message by disabling the change password button?
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2009-09-10 12:29 <paepke> cedk: at my ex-company they have to change every 6 weeks. but they have to change only once at the windows-login. different apps are authenticating against this AD server. from none of them you are allowed to change the password.
2009-09-10 12:29 <cedk> paepke: it must be done in a custom module
2009-09-10 12:30 <paepke> cedk: what about the password strength? are you going to implement something like cracklib?
2009-09-10 12:31 <cedk> paepke: no
2009-09-10 12:31 <cedk> paepke: still custom module
2009-09-10 12:32 <paepke> cedk: will b2ck implement this or are you looking for a contributor?
2009-09-10 12:32 <cedk> paepke: for what?
2009-09-10 12:33 <paepke> cedk: the "cracklib" function
2009-09-10 12:33 <paepke> cedk: i understand that tryton is a framework. and i think its a good point to have such mudules like cracklib and disabling the password-change button...
2009-09-10 12:33 <cedk> paepke: it is not in our plan
2009-09-10 12:34 <paepke> cedk: ic
2009-09-10 12:34 <cedk> paepke: so you can write a module and submit it
2009-09-10 12:34 <paepke> cedk: i'd like to, but i'm not as experienced in programming like you.
2009-09-10 12:35 <paepke> cedk: you will see some modules from me in future.
2009-09-10 12:35 <paepke> ... i have to go for lunch. bbl
2009-09-10 12:35 <cedk> paepke: if there is a python module that work with cracklib, it will be easy
2009-09-10 12:35 <paepke> cedk: imho there is one...
2009-09-10 12:36 <cedk> paepke: http://www.nongnu.org/python-crack/
2009-09-10 12:47 <cedk> what do you think about this: http://dpaste.com/91769/
2009-09-10 12:48 <cedk> I need to commit there to be able to create user at login
2009-09-10 12:51 <cedk> ACTION bbl
2009-09-10 14:06 <cedk> ACTION back
2009-09-10 14:10 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 2006:89f4919d47aa trytond/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Added column renaming on db backends
2009-09-10 14:10 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/89f4919d47aa
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2009-09-10 14:19 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 2007:ebfa6e6a630d trytond/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Allow to drop constraint, index and foreign key with custom table name
2009-09-10 14:19 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/ebfa6e6a630d
2009-09-10 14:57 <CIA-2> Timitos roundup * #1170/error when changing sequence on period:
2009-09-10 14:57 <CIA-2> [new] patch attached
2009-09-10 14:57 <CIA-2> Traceback (most recent call last):
2009-09-10 14:57 <CIA-2> File "/home/kp/localdev/trytond/trytond/protocols/dispatcher.py", line 125, in dispa ...
2009-09-10 14:57 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1170
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2009-09-10 15:27 <CIA-2> Korbinian Preisler <timitos@virtual-things.biz> default * 369:cb1385d2b448 account_invoice/account.py: fix change of sequence on period for issue1170
2009-09-10 15:27 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account_invoice/rev/cb1385d2b448
2009-09-10 15:29 <CIA-2> ced roundup * #1170/error when changing sequence on period: [resolved] Applied
2009-09-10 15:29 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1170
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2009-09-10 16:31 <MarkusB> hi
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2009-09-10 17:14 <CIA-2> matb roundup * #1167/Make display of status bar configurable: [testing] Thx for reviewing, patch attached.
2009-09-10 17:14 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1167
2009-09-10 17:25 <CIA-2> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 1397:bdc8ef664036 tryton/ (CHANGELOG tryton/config.py tryton/gui/main.py): Adding "Statusbar" option (for issue #1167).
2009-09-10 17:25 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton/rev/bdc8ef664036
2009-09-10 17:26 <CIA-2> matb roundup * #1168/Restore broken pda mode: Uploaded to http://codereview.appspot.com/116066. Please review.
2009-09-10 17:26 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1168
2009-09-10 17:26 <CIA-2> ced roundup * #1167/Make display of status bar configurable: [resolved] Applied
2009-09-10 17:26 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1167
2009-09-10 17:30 <CIA-2> ced roundup * #1168/Restore broken pda mode: I don't think it is good to mix to options since now we had statusbar option
2009-09-10 17:30 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1168
2009-09-10 17:42 <CIA-2> matb roundup * #1168/Restore broken pda mode: [closed] Ack, closing this issue.
2009-09-10 17:42 <CIA-2> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1168
2009-09-10 17:59 <CIA-2> Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 212:252cd1699740 sale/sale.xml: Fix typo in trigger model name
2009-09-10 17:59 <CIA-2> http://hg.tryton.org/modules/sale/rev/252cd1699740
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2009-09-10 19:16 <gour> hiya, should i use '--send_mail' in upload.py when sending new patch-set for the old issue?
2009-09-10 19:17 <cedk> gour: if you want others been aware of your modification
2009-09-10 19:18 <gour> cedk: email is sent via website, not from my localhost?
2009-09-10 19:18 <cedk> gour: I think
2009-09-10 19:18 <gour> ok. let me try...there is always that 'asbestos cave' to hide in :-)
2009-09-10 19:23 <gour> done
2009-09-10 19:41 <carlos> Timitos: hi, around?
2009-09-10 19:45 <Timitos> carlos: on the phone...
2009-09-10 19:45 <carlos> Timitos: ok, just wanted to talk with you about product_image module and some modifications I did to it
2009-09-10 19:46 <carlos> Timitos: please, ping me when you have some time
2009-09-10 20:14 <Timitos> carlos: ping. i finally finished my phone marathon ;-)
2009-09-10 20:14 <carlos> Timitos: :-D
2009-09-10 20:15 <carlos> Timitos: I just wanted to check with you whether you choose to limit product_image to a single image per product for any specific reason or just because it fits your use case
2009-09-10 20:16 <carlos> Timitos: as part of the satchmo integration, I want to be able to store several images, and thus, I modified your module:
2009-09-10 20:16 <carlos> https://hg.pemas.es/tryton/product_image/
2009-09-10 20:16 <Timitos> carlos: i can give you access to the repo. this module was done for a prototype that was never used in production. so we stopped working on it
2009-09-10 20:16 <carlos> sorry http://hg.pemas.es/tryton/product_image/
2009-09-10 20:16 <carlos> Timitos: I have access to it and is published in intuxication
2009-09-10 20:17 <carlos> Timitos: ok, so I guess is ok If I take over it for the development...
2009-09-10 20:18 <carlos> I don't like the implementation I did, but it covers my use case. As a second step I would like to see whether is possible to extend it in a way that allows Tryton client to show a thumbnail of the image, but that's already too much for me right now...
2009-09-10 20:19 <Timitos> carlos: i think you could do this with a function field maybe if you point it to a specific picture of the list
2009-09-10 20:21 <carlos> maybe, however, I don't have time to even think on that just right now, given that the images will be seen from satchmo and the POS, my customer is happy with current implementation
2009-09-10 20:21 <Timitos> carlos: ok
2009-09-10 20:22 <carlos> Timitos: so, could I take over the module name? should I use your repository or may I just update intuxication copy with my modifications?
2009-09-10 20:23 <Timitos> carlos: give me your username on intuxication and i can add you to the access list
2009-09-10 20:23 <carlos> ok, let me check for it (I don't remember it...)
2009-09-10 20:26 <carlos> Timitos: I think it's 'carlos'
2009-09-10 20:26 <carlos> or is it the email?
2009-09-10 20:26 <Timitos> carlos: i added carlos. you can test ist
2009-09-10 20:26 <Timitos> s/ist/it
2009-09-10 20:27 <carlos> Timitos: yeah, it works
2009-09-10 20:27 <carlos> my changes are now there
2009-09-10 20:27 <carlos> Timitos: thanks!
2009-09-10 20:28 <Timitos> carlos: you are welcome
2009-09-10 20:58 <gour> carlos: do you make tryton speak with django/satchmo sites?
2009-09-10 20:58 <carlos> gour: I'm working on it, yes
2009-09-10 20:59 <gour> carlos: cool. i plan to have web site in django/stachmo/feincms, so having it play together will be great...pls. share when you will have something ;)
2009-09-10 21:00 <gour> ACTION uploaded two new tryton modules for archlinux
2009-09-10 21:00 <carlos> gour: well, I'm already late, so it should be soon...
2009-09-10 21:01 <carlos> gour: we are working to release the code and open the development, but we don't have a date yet (the decision is already taken, is just a matter of time now)
2009-09-10 21:01 <gour> carlos: great. i'm just starting with tryton and not too many experience with django as well...but great platforms
2009-09-10 21:03 <carlos> gour: I wish both share a bit more code with other projects / libraries, but yes, both are great platforms
2009-09-10 21:03 <gour> carlos: what could be shared for instance?
2009-09-10 21:06 <carlos> gour: well, it's more a wish than technically possible
2009-09-10 21:07 <gour> carlos: ahh, i see...
2009-09-10 21:07 <carlos> gour: For instance, both may reduce a lot of translation strings reusing iso-codes package
2009-09-10 21:07 <carlos> but as Cedk already pointed, it would not fit with the Tryton model
2009-09-10 21:07 <carlos> and you have a similar problem with Django
2009-09-10 21:08 <carlos> so the only way to share it is to 'fork' it and sync from time to time so you can reuse those translations, instead of having someone to translate them from zero
2009-09-10 21:08 <gour> heh, i was reading that thread with the interest...
2009-09-10 21:08 <gour> ACTION has to go out. bbl ~1hr
2009-09-10 22:01 <gour> ACTION is back
2009-09-10 22:27 <gour> ACTION just tried - very cool
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