IRC logs of #tryton for Wednesday, 2011-05-04

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2011-05-04 11:44 <yangoon> cedk: for the discussion yesterday about hgnested in debian
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2011-05-04 11:44 <cedk> yangoon: yes
2011-05-04 11:45 <yangoon> if you estimate hgnested to be to dangerous to be enabled by default we can remove this default of course
2011-05-04 11:45 <cedk> yangoon: I just find that it is not userfriendly to activate hg extensions by default
2011-05-04 11:45 <cedk> yangoon: it should be a choice
2011-05-04 11:45 <yangoon> ACTION OTOH wondering about users complaining about sogtware just working after installation
2011-05-04 11:46 <yangoon> cedk: it is a choice and the configuration file is documented a lot
2011-05-04 11:46 <cedk> yangoon: it seems that all other hg extensions works like that (disable by default)
2011-05-04 11:46 <yangoon> cedk: and there is no common behaviour on activation
2011-05-04 11:47 <yangoon> cedk: no, e.g. qct.rc comes enabeld
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2011-05-04 11:49 <cedk> yangoon: indeed I don't care, I'm not a Debian user and it is mainly because of such behavior of packages :-)
2011-05-04 11:50 <yangoon> cedk: the final argument for me is: if you say, that there could be too many side effects by some monkey patching, we will disable the default activation
2011-05-04 11:51 <cedk> yangoon: hgnested modify the behavior of hg
2011-05-04 11:51 <cedk> yangoon: like almost all the extensions
2011-05-04 11:51 <cedk> yangoon: and I'm pretty sure there should be conflict with somes
2011-05-04 11:52 <yangoon> cedk: ok, will disable it
2011-05-04 11:53 <cedk> yangoon: by the way, I think that thinking like "users complaining about sogtware just working after installation
2011-05-04 11:53 <cedk> "
2011-05-04 11:53 <cedk> yangoon: will make Debian looks like Windows or MacOSX
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2011-05-04 11:54 <yangoon> cedk: :D far away, but perhaps you are a little bit too uses to have to enable and configure software twice
2011-05-04 11:55 <yangoon> finally: if I can make the life of users easier, I will try to do
2011-05-04 11:55 <cedk> yangoon: I don't configure software twice
2011-05-04 11:56 <yangoon> cedk: but you have to touch twice
2011-05-04 11:56 <yangoon> and if it is not necessary, why shouldn't I save this step?
2011-05-04 11:58 <bechamel> first distro flamewar on the channel ! :D
2011-05-04 11:59 <cedk> yangoon: to touch what twice?
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2011-05-04 11:59 <yangoon> cedk: first you install a specific extension, afterwards you have to enable it
2011-05-04 11:59 <yangoon> cedk: why do you install that extension?
2011-05-04 12:00 <yangoon> I suppose you want to use it
2011-05-04 12:01 <cedk> yangoon: you think like if there is only one user on the host
2011-05-04 12:02 <cedk> yangoon: it is UNIX: multi-user
2011-05-04 12:15 <yangoon> cedk: no, I think I can provide useful extensions system wide, if they are stable and won't interfere
2011-05-04 12:15 <yangoon> cedk: removed the debian default
2011-05-04 12:22 <jcm> hello! I installed proteus 2.0. How do I specify, in a python script, that I'd like to use protesu 1.8 or proteus 2.0.?
2011-05-04 12:24 <cedk> jcm: you can not install both version
2011-05-04 12:33 <cedk> jcm: or you must use some kind of virtualisation like virtualenv
2011-05-04 12:37 <jcm> ah. I installed both using egg. Does it take the last version by default ?
2011-05-04 12:37 <jcm> it doesn't complain in python console when I import from proteus
2011-05-04 12:38 <cedk> jcm: yes I think it is the default behavior
2011-05-04 12:38 <cedk> jcm: after that I think with pkg_resources you can specify a version
2011-05-04 12:38 <jcm> do you think I should check or change some lines of the import script before running it in 2.0 ?
2011-05-04 12:38 <cedk> jcm: but I never use that
2011-05-04 12:39 <cedk> jcm: I don't think
2011-05-04 12:40 <jcm> last question: using mercurial, the client version shows as 2.1. I suppose the trytond is 2.1 too. Will tryton2.0 work with this?
2011-05-04 12:45 <cedk> jcm: no you must use version with the same 2 first number
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2011-05-04 12:46 <jcm> since proteus is 2.0, I should revert my mercurial to 2.0? isn't it recommended to run the last version for bugfixes?
2011-05-04 12:47 <cedk> jcm: we push bugfix in each branches
2011-05-04 12:47 <jcm> great! thks
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2011-05-04 15:20 <jcm> cedk: I used mercurial to install proteus trunk (2.1) and added it in my PYTHONPATH. Here is the error I get: do you think it's a proteus bug? http://pastie.org/1864042
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2011-05-04 15:27 <nicoe> jcm: this is a known bug, a fix is available there http://codereview.tryton.org/25003/
2011-05-04 15:29 <jcm> sorry, I didn't search correctly in bugs...
2011-05-04 15:32 <nicoe> np
2011-05-04 15:33 <jcm> retrying, I don't find the bug among bugs.tryton.org with 'md5' or 'translation', nor #25003 :/
2011-05-04 15:40 <cedk> jcm: I think no issue was created
2011-05-04 16:08 <jcm> cedk: sry to bother you with my hg+python uneducation, but I'm not able to hg import --no-commit http://codereview.tryton.org/download/issue25003_5002.diff : gives outstanding uncommitted changes though I'm in the right dir :/
2011-05-04 16:10 <cedk> jcm: yes but you have modify your repo
2011-05-04 16:10 <jcm> only the config
2011-05-04 16:10 <cedk> jcm: you can revert all with: hg revert --all
2011-05-04 16:10 <cedk> jcm: run hg st to see
2011-05-04 16:11 <jcm> if I commit my changes, will I still be able to pull from tryton source?
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2011-05-04 16:13 <cedk> jcm: you will need to merge each time
2011-05-04 16:16 <cedk> jcm: which change have you done?
2011-05-04 16:16 <jcm> the config file in etc/
2011-05-04 16:19 <cedk> jcm: make a copy somewhere else and start trytond with -c option
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2011-05-04 17:17 <jcm> ok, works
2011-05-04 17:17 <jcm> I now get a KeyError in my proteus import : http://pastie.org/1864042
2011-05-04 17:18 <cedk> jcm: some modules need to be updated to 2.0
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2011-05-04 17:24 <cedk> jcm: we developped the modules for 1.8
2011-05-04 17:24 <cedk> jcm: but now, if you want to got with 2.0, we need to update the modules
2011-05-04 17:26 <cedk> jcm: it is not a big job but you have to tell us
2011-05-04 17:33 <jcm> is it wise to go with 2 instead of 1.8? Does this mean that foreach new version, correction will need to be made to custom modules ?
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2011-05-04 18:26 <reichlich> is it possible to create a domain for "WHERE write_date IS NOT NULL" ?
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2011-05-04 18:28 <sharoon> reichlich[('write_date', '!=', False)]
2011-05-04 18:30 <reichlich_> sharoon, great, thanks
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2011-05-04 23:29 <effenberg> ello
2011-05-04 23:39 <sharoon> effenberg: hello
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