IRC logs of #tryton for Wednesday, 2014-12-03

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2014-12-03 12:55 <Pilou> cedk: I will download 'Content' and 'PatchSet' entities this afternoon, the operation will slightly exceed the free quota.
2014-12-03 12:57 <marius___> how can I specify description when submitting review with hg review?
2014-12-03 12:59 <cedk> marius___: you must use my patch: https://bitbucket.org/nicoe/hgreview/issue/18/allow-to-edit-the-description
2014-12-03 13:00 <cedk> Pilou: you are using the download_data from google_appengine/appcfg.py
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2014-12-03 13:01 <cedk> Pilou: and this is counting in the quota?
2014-12-03 13:09 <cedk> Pilou: otherwise, sharoon used to pay for exceeded quota but I just find that he retires his credit card without noticing us
2014-12-03 13:12 <cedk> but B2CK is willing to pay for extra usage
2014-12-03 13:14 <Pilou> cedk: yes i am using appcfg.py, it seems to me that 'outgoing bandwith' and 'datastore read operations' are impacted
2014-12-03 13:18 <cedk> Pilou: I'm setting the B2CK credit card
2014-12-03 13:23 <cedk> Pilou: if I understand correctly we just earn 300$ for the next 3 months because it is a new billing account
2014-12-03 13:23 <cedk> Pilou: so you have 3 months to experiment :-)
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2014-12-03 13:50 <JanGrasbauer> cedk: my mail to foundation arrived?
2014-12-03 13:57 <cedk> JanGrasbauer: which one?
2014-12-03 13:58 <JanGrasbauer> cedk: about unconf and the money ...
2014-12-03 13:59 <cedk> JanGrasbauer: yes but nicoe answered you, no?
2014-12-03 13:59 <JanGrasbauer> cedk: did not see it
2014-12-03 14:00 <nicoe> JanGrasbauer: I did it last week
2014-12-03 14:00 <nicoe> JanGrasbauer: Let me check my sentbox
2014-12-03 14:01 <cedk> JanGrasbauer: but the nicoe's answer about invoice is wrong, it is not required to get one
2014-12-03 14:02 <cedk> JanGrasbauer: we just need a kind of receipt
2014-12-03 14:02 <cedk> JanGrasbauer: indeed what you did but printable
2014-12-03 14:02 <JanGrasbauer> cedk: ok
2014-12-03 14:06 <cedk> JanGrasbauer: and bank account info to make the payment
2014-12-03 14:07 <JanGrasbauer> cedk: pass it directly to sao budget
2014-12-03 14:08 <JanGrasbauer> cedk: or better I do to have it clear for accountants :)
2014-12-03 14:10 <cedk> JanGrasbauer: I don't understand
2014-12-03 14:11 <JanGrasbauer> cedk: no problem :) you will see
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2014-12-03 16:01 <eusms> i am tryin to create a new DB but getting error messages, that all modules are missing. Tried to install the missing ones, but everytime I am getting a new message that one module is missing. I also did a apt-get install trytond-modules-all, and everything seems to be installed. any thoughts how to fix this?
2014-12-03 16:02 <cedk> eusms: "-u all" is removed in 3.4, you must use --all
2014-12-03 16:04 <eusms> cedk, i am using the tryton-client, where will I find the instructions on how to create a DB in bash# ?
2014-12-03 16:06 <cedk> eusms: http://doc.tryton.org/3.4/trytond/doc/topics/setup_database.html#topics-setup-database
2014-12-03 16:07 <eusms> cedk, thxs
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2014-12-03 16:09 <eusms> cedk, I am getting the same error messages as before: IOError: File not found : /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trytond/modules/purchase/tryton.cfg
2014-12-03 16:11 <eusms> when I download the module trytond_purchase.3.4## I can install it. Next time the same error pops up with a different module i should install
2014-12-03 16:11 <cedk> eusms: so purchase module is not correctly installed
2014-12-03 16:11 <eusms> cedk, none of them is correctly installed
2014-12-03 16:12 <eusms> cedk, is this related to my python version 2.7 vs 3.4?
2014-12-03 16:13 <eusms> cedk, trytond --version shows 3.4
2014-12-03 16:13 <cedk> eusms: that's the version of trytond
2014-12-03 16:13 <eusms> cedk, sure
2014-12-03 16:15 <marius___> cedk, are there any plans for 3.4.1?
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2014-12-03 16:16 <Timitos> eusms: i see that the module is searched unter /usr/local/lib but this is not general path of the tryton debian packages. it may be that you have made an old installation with python setup.py and this could be the problem.
2014-12-03 16:16 <cedk> marius___: I have to do the release
2014-12-03 16:17 <eusms> Timitos, any idea how to I can fix this?
2014-12-03 16:18 <marius___> cedk, are changes like https://bugs.tryton.org/issue4393 going to be backported to 3.4?
2014-12-03 16:18 <Timitos> eusms: depends on what you did exactly :-)
2014-12-03 16:18 <cedk> marius___: yes but generally after 1 week
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2014-12-03 16:19 <marius___> what do you do if patch doesn't apply for 3.4 but does apply for default?
2014-12-03 16:19 <Timitos> eusms: did you install some modules by 'python setup.py install'? oder bei 'pip install'? oder by 'easy_install'?
2014-12-03 16:19 <marius___> backport it yourself?
2014-12-03 16:19 <eusms> Timitos, yes
2014-12-03 16:20 <Timitos> eusms: which of the three versions?
2014-12-03 16:20 <eusms> 1
2014-12-03 16:20 <eusms> Timitos, python setup.py install
2014-12-03 16:21 <Timitos> eusms: may this is helpful for you: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1550226/python-setup-py-uninstall
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2014-12-03 18:54 <marius___> wouldn't it also be logical to assign lost inventory moves?
2014-12-03 18:55 <marius___> I mean you can currently lose quantity that you've already assigned somewhere
2014-12-03 19:00 <cedk> marius___: I don't find logical to assign something that is not there
2014-12-03 19:00 <marius___> cedk, problem is that I've assigned production move, and now I lose it
2014-12-03 19:01 <cedk> marius___: so unassign
2014-12-03 19:02 <marius___> but in production I don't know if product is "lost" and I need to unassign
2014-12-03 19:03 <marius___> I believe there should be a user error when trying to lose something through inventory and quantity is already assigned somewhere
2014-12-03 19:03 <cedk> marius___: in production, you assign the product, you go pick them
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2014-12-03 19:03 <cedk> so it they are not there, you know you have a problem
2014-12-03 19:03 <cedk> you don't know before that that you lost a product
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2014-12-03 19:06 <marius___> cedk, when I'm losing item I don't know if item is being moved to production.
2014-12-03 19:07 <cedk> marius___: what?
2014-12-03 19:07 <cedk> marius___: it is in production or not
2014-12-03 19:07 <marius___> it's "assigned" in production
2014-12-03 19:07 <cedk> marius___: how do you know your are losing something? If you know you are not losing
2014-12-03 19:07 <cedk> marius___: so what?
2014-12-03 19:08 <cedk> marius___: we are talking about real product
2014-12-03 19:09 <cedk> marius___: and by the way, how do you enter that you have lost products?
2014-12-03 19:10 <cedk> marius___: and why will you prevent the user to mark products has lost? It is lost
2014-12-03 19:10 <marius___> Through stock->inventories
2014-12-03 19:11 <cedk> marius___: so you want to prevent the user to enter the stock quantity he just counted?
2014-12-03 19:12 <cedk> and you do inventory while production is still running?
2014-12-03 19:12 <marius___> i do inventory while productions are running
2014-12-03 19:12 <cedk> marius___: that can not work
2014-12-03 19:12 <cedk> marius___: if people are taking products, you can not count
2014-12-03 19:13 <marius___> that's what I try to prevent ;)
2014-12-03 19:13 <cedk> marius___: so stop production when doing inventory
2014-12-03 19:14 <cedk> this is so logical
2014-12-03 19:15 <marius___> problem is that I have productions with many inputs, which take long time (1 month)
2014-12-03 19:17 <cedk> marius___: so you have to assign step by step the input products and not assign 1 month in advance
2014-12-03 19:17 <cedk> marius___: assign must be done just before taking the product
2014-12-03 19:19 <marius___> what if "taking" takes 3 days?
2014-12-03 19:22 <marius___> problem is that user did an inventory of location, lost one product, it was already assigned in production (but production is not yet running). Now I have a situation where I have more assigned moves than available quantity
2014-12-03 19:22 <marius___> and I believe tryton should have prevented it
2014-12-03 19:34 <marius___> (by checking that there are assigned moves associated with location)
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2014-12-03 19:46 <marius___> anyhow, does it sound ok to use self in @classmethod?
2014-12-03 19:46 <marius___> http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/trytond/modules/stock/file/1e780a9b1aed/inventory.py#l128
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2014-12-03 19:52 <marius___> https://bugs.tryton.org/issue4396
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2014-12-03 20:05 <cedk> marius___: tryton can not avoid mistake in warehouse
2014-12-03 20:09 <marius___> cedk, but it can help enforce proper process, like you cannot have negative quantity in storage (or can you?)
2014-12-03 20:27 <rmu> marius___: in classmethods, the first parameter is usually called cls, but AFAIK, it is just a name, FWIW you could also call it "this" ;-)
2014-12-03 20:34 <cedk> marius___: you can have negative quantity in storage
2014-12-03 20:34 <cedk> marius___: that the all point, we must not prevent user to encode the reality
2014-12-03 20:35 <cedk> marius___: if the user says, he moves x products to lost, we must record it even if it make the stock level goes under 0
2014-12-03 20:35 <cedk> after that, of course having negative quantity means something is wrong and you should do an inventory
2014-12-03 20:36 <cedk> marius___: assignation process only help to prevent many assignation but user can still skip this process
2014-12-03 20:36 <cedk> it is just a gentle agreement
2014-12-03 20:38 <cedk> and for production, if some previously assigned products are not available when the user try to pick them, he must go back to draft and relaunch the assignation process to get new location of available products
2014-12-03 20:38 <cedk> one improvement will be to be able to mark as done some moves if they were already moved
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