IRC logs of #tryton for Thursday, 2015-11-26

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csoteloGood morning coders11:47
pokolicsotelo: good morning12:14
cedkcsotelo: I will have to refuse your emails on the mailing as you are still top-posting12:18
csotelocedk, I understand, nbut I dont know how to explain on better way12:19
cedkcsotelo: I don't understand what you are talking about12:19
cedkcsotelo: please don't top-post12:20
cedkcsotelo: and read http://groups.tryton.org/netiquette12:20
csotelocedk, sorry, was a mistake on my side, I am sorry of that12:21
pokolicsotelo: in spain, we have some normal invoice and simplified invoice, and for me it seems very similar on what you are talking about12:21
pokolicsotelo: we only use two diferent reports for thath12:22
csotelopokoli, could you explain me a little how you are managed that, or maybe I could write on private or is ok here12:22
pokolicsotelo: but on your case, when you report the taxes to the national authority, what do you have to report?12:22
cedkpokoli: I think I already said that your Spain localisation could be generic12:23
csoteloas a seller, both12:23
cedkpokoli: for me, it is about using the MatchMixin pattern to get the sequence for numbering12:24
pokolicsotelo: ok, to both, but you sum both types or report them in a separated way?12:24
csoteloreport on separated,12:24
pokolicedk: yes, sadly we have a lot of things to improve in our localization12:25
csotelodifferent account entryies12:25
pokolicsotelo: so you have to create a tax for each of the types12:26
pokolicsotelo: which is the default one? Invoice or simplified (sorry didn't remember the noun you are using)12:27
csotelopokoli, default is "invoice", for natural people is "Boleta" (spanish)12:28
aroncerocsotelo: although the report does not print, you must pay taxes to the government of the "Boleta"?12:30
csoteloaroncero, yes, it has its own account entry12:31
aroncerocsotelo: so, I think it is only a report12:31
pokolicedk: BTW, have you checked https://bugs.tryton.org/issue5118 ?12:32
csoteloon my side, I also see it as a report, but for peruvian goverme, If I use justa  document I could go to jail12:33
csotelois no legal to use just one way with different report12:33
csotelois a mandatory according our laws12:33
pokolicsotelo: you can implement two views on the same model :)12:33
pokolicsotelo: but for me this is so much complicated :P12:34
csotelopokoli, I have done that :) ( but I didnt know if it was ok ) but I dont know how to make or how tu create two different parties ( or types ) and assign them the views by default12:35
cedkpokoli: no, I will not perform any review until tox is fixed12:35
cedkcsotelo: "is no legal to use just one way with different report" I never believe such quote12:36
csotelocedk, yes.. they some time check computing solutions for check if all is ok according legal terms12:38
cedkpokoli: also I'm almost pretty sure those different invoice "type" should be managed with different journals12:38
cedkcsotelo: I even beleive less now12:38
csoteloI am calling an account friend12:39
aroncerocedk: In Spain we must have a different sequence for each invoice type12:43
aronceromaybe in Peru is similar12:44
cedkaroncero: I know that's why I propose to have a generic design12:48
aroncerocedk: I think that is the way, then each localisation must make the change for each country12:51
pokolicedk: sorry, i though that only commit process was stoped, and we can continue uploading reviews12:52
pokoliand, yes I agree we can find a generic solution12:53
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csotelocedk, pokoli aroncero I was talking with an accountant friend ( I am a computer scientis no accountant ), I was wrong on many things.13:29
csoteloMy friend explain me that is no need to have two differnt views, but is required having two differnt clients ( natural parties and legal parties ), the default one is natural parties for simple invoicing ( as spain ), and for legal parties, I just could use normal invoice. As aroncero, finally, depending on party type, the report could be choiced between a normal invoice and simple invoice, and .. on the account entry, there is no difference, but on13:35
csoteloreporting to goverment authority, must be separated ( I havent understood very well that, since my friend told me that both simple and normal invoice goes to the same account, sellings account, but must be reported on separated way )13:35
cedkcsotelo: I think it is better that you post on your mailing list thread13:35
csotelocedk, I wil do that, I though could be good also post here just as a part on information and then notice that I will continue the discussion on mailing, cause of the large text13:36
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tatiluhola18:29
tatilua todos18:29
tatiluHello everyone18:30
tatiluconsultation: it is best to install a Debian or Ubuntu Operating System18:31
pokolitatilu: this channel is for tryton questions, so your question is unrealted18:32
pokolitatilu: you can install tryton on both operating systems18:32
tatiluthat's what I mean18:33
pokolitatilu: have a look at the wiki, https://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationOnDebian  https://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationOnUbuntu18:34
tatiluThank you18:35
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pokolitatilu: you're welcome18:46
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csotelohello coders, any updated about my mail sent  this morning about localization for Peru? thanks a lot22:25
cedkcsotelo: for me nothing new, I have said all I could on the topic22:33
csotelocedk,then I am not understanding ....22:34
csotelojust one more thing... then how could I make two diferent report bases on the paty type? Must I create two different party types?22:36
cedkcsotelo: I think you can manage with one single template and some if statement22:36
cedkeven if I don't understand why you could not use the same for both type22:37
cedkcsotelo: so to sum up, I think you should try to collaborate with others (Spanish and Argentina at least) guys to make a proposal for a generic module/patch to implement multi-numbering of invoice based on MatchMixin22:42
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csoteloI am trying on collaborate with coder from Spain or Argentina, they have similar implementations23:30
csoteloand learn how they work23:32
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