| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu Feb 16 00:00:02 CET 2017 | ||
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| 2017-02-16 10:58 <alexbodn1> hello pokoli, all friends. | ||
| 2017-02-16 10:58 <alexbodn1> about flask_tryton: | ||
| 2017-02-16 10:58 <alexbodn1> to my best understanding, this is in fact a trytond replacement daemon. am i right? | ||
| 2017-02-16 10:59 <pokoli> Hi alexbodn1: It's not a replacement as you can use the trytond only for company employees and flask_tryton for exposing some of your ERP data to your customers | ||
| 2017-02-16 10:59 <pokoli> alexbodn1: they are complementari to each other | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:00 <pokoli> alexbodn1: flask tryton exposes the trytond ORM on the flask framework | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:10 <alexbodn1> hi pokoli | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:12 <alexbodn1> indeed i wanted to access the orm, but could this orm work in parallel with a regular daemon? | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:12 <pokoli> alexbodn1: yes | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:13 <pokoli> alexbodn1: indeed it's a separate process | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:15 <alexbodn1> and, is there a working version of the regular client over the web? | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:15 <alexbodn1> for the admin part | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:17 <pokoli> alexbodn1: yes: http://hg.tryton.org/sao/ | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:22 <alexbodn1> pokoli: is sao a working client? is it in sync with trytond? | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:22 <pokoli> alexbodn1: yes, we currently support tryton (desktop client) and sao (web client) with trytond | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:23 <alexbodn1> wow, pokoli, i'm going for it. | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:25 <alexbodn1> so any application based on tryton can be accessed over web with sao, or exposed through the orm. | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:25 <alexbodn1> i will plug the orm in turbogears | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:31 <pokoli> alexbodn1: It can be accessed with the regular clients (desktop and web) or you can expose it's data in a custom website | ||
| 2017-02-16 11:32 <pokoli> alexbodn1: then you should create a MOdel layer for turbogears to access the tryton data (don't know if exists any) | ||
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| 2017-02-16 13:17 <alexbodn1> pokoli: indeed, that's what i meant. i'm using tg for ~7 years. tg uses middleware to wrap each request in a transaction. the pool will be exposed to the code during the request. the authentication and authorisation in tg are repoze what and who, which i'll make tryton plugins for. i will share the components and recipes/ | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:19 <pokoli> alexbodn1: indeed in tryton each request is a transaction too | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:19 <pokoli> alexbodn1: maybe you are interseted in using web user: http://hg.tryton.org/modules/web_user | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:24 <alexbodn1> are the records in a model partitioned by the company? | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:42 <alexbodn1> i see accounting and logistics software are usualy serving multiple businesses. does tryton have the same? | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:42 <alexbodn1> i have to go over my limits and run the software, not only write and prepare ;) | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:49 <pokoli> alexbodn1: yes, there are some models that are partitioned by company | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:49 <pokoli> alexbodn1: IIRC the only shared data is parties and products | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:50 <alexbodn1> pokoli: by shared, do you mean "visible in all companies"? | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:51 <pokoli> alexbodn1: yes, visible in all companies | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:51 <pokoli> alexbodn1: furthermore, the name of the party and it's addresses is the same for all the companies | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:51 <pokoli> alexbodn1: but, the payment term is defined for each company | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:54 <alexbodn1> ok, pokoli, but in cas i want say, partitioned products, may i inherit the product class? | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:58 <pokoli> alexbodn1: yes, but another option is to use diferent databases for each company | ||
| 2017-02-16 13:59 <alexbodn1> pokoli, ok, should be considered too | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:00 <pokoli> alexbodn1: if you want to share nothing I will go for a different database | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:02 <alexbodn1> pokoli, i'd prefer same table with a differentiating field. in case this difference would miss somewhere, it may be added, probably | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:03 <pokoli> alexbodn1: but you should have to add this field everywhere | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:03 <pokoli> alexbodn1: in tryton its easy to create two databases with the same structure. It's only the matter of installing the same set of modules on them | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:06 <alexbodn1> pokoli: the old school people say, that more than one should be infinite ;) | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:06 <alexbodn1> i've seen there are a few fields added automatically. maybe there should be simple to add "company" | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:08 <pokoli> alexbodn1: yes, you should develop a custom module that adds the company field | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:09 <alexbodn1> what are you doing with tryton, pokoli? | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:11 <pokoli> alexbodn1: we are implanting it on our customers :) | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:12 <alexbodn1> local installations? | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:13 <pokoli> alexbodn1: on a cloud instance managed by us. | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:13 <alexbodn1> and one db per customer? | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:14 <pokoli> alexbodn1: yes, because they share nothing between them | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:14 <alexbodn1> indeed | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:15 <pokoli> alexbodn1: they are free to create multiple companies on each database, but then parties and products are shared | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:16 <alexbodn1> are you using multiple trytond instances, one per customer? | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:22 <pokoli> alexbodn1: yes | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:24 <alexbodn1> isn't it heavy? | ||
| 2017-02-16 14:51 <pokoli> alexbodn1: what do you understand by heavy? | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:05 <alexbodn1> pokoli: haha, i did small programs under dos. small programs for arduino, and other mini hardware. it's hard to count in gigabytes ;) | ||
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| 2017-02-16 15:10 <pokoli> alexbodn1: I picked a real example. A tryton stance is using only 80MB, so you don't have to count in gigabytes :) | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:11 <pokoli> alexbodn1: indeed, IIRC there where some people running trytond+postgresql on a raspberrypi | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:11 <alexbodn1> dos had segmented 640k | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:12 <alexbodn1> our first nokia had more ram than a mainframe :) | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:14 <alexbodn1> but really, if possible, i'd keep one db, with self-service company addition. | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:15 <pokoli> alexbodn1: it's up to you, we try to make it as much flexible as possible :) | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:15 <alexbodn1> i know cloud runners sell computer instances as records in a db ;) | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:17 <alexbodn1> in case it will be needed, i'd like to enlarge the relevant records by a company field, and will share my thoughts | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:22 <pokoli> alexbodn1: I'll be here waiting to listen to your experiences :) | ||
| 2017-02-16 15:23 <pokoli> alexbodn1: we have an record level access rules to manage this cases: http://doc.tryton.org/4.2/trytond/doc/topics/access_rights.html?highlight=access#record-rule | ||
| 2017-02-16 16:03 <alexbodn1> thank you very much pokili :) | ||
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| 2017-02-16 16:08 <alexbodn1> i appreciate very much the data management granularity. | ||
| 2017-02-16 16:09 <alexbodn1> i have to go pokoli. have a good evening | ||
| 2017-02-16 16:09 <pokoli> alexbodn1: you'r welcome and same to you :) | ||
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