IRC logs of #tryton for Monday, 2010-05-24 #tryton log beginning Mon May 24 00:00:02 CEST 2010
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2010-05-24 13:39 <Frogzilla232> hi there
2010-05-24 13:40 <Frogzilla232> where can i found information on tryton usage examples?
2010-05-24 13:42 <Frogzilla232> i've installed tryton, created some test data, account plant, fiscal year, etc. I've made an invoice, paid it, everythong feels quite intuitive, however i can't understand how to cancel an invoice
2010-05-24 13:45 <Frogzilla232> ie: an invoice with N+1 secuence has been created, but the N invoice is not valid
2010-05-24 13:53 <cedk> Frogzilla232: you must create a credit note
2010-05-24 13:54 <cedk> Frogzilla232: once invoice gets a number you can no more change it
2010-05-24 13:55 <cedk> Frogzilla232: it is a legal requirements in almost all coutries (at least all I know)
2010-05-24 13:55 <Frogzilla232> thanks, it is different from our current system
2010-05-24 13:55 <cedk> Frogzilla232: from which country are you?
2010-05-24 13:55 <Frogzilla232> then the "reference" on the credit note will be the original invoice?
2010-05-24 13:55 <Frogzilla232> spain
2010-05-24 13:56 <Frogzilla232> i'm also triying to recreate the spanish starndad account chart, i couldn't find it anywhere
2010-05-24 13:57 <cedk> Frogzilla232: you should try to look at
2010-05-24 13:57 <cedk> and #tryton-es
2010-05-24 13:57 <cedk> there is some guys from Spain
2010-05-24 13:58 <Frogzilla232> i'll give it a try
2010-05-24 13:59 <Frogzilla232> i'm not an accountant, i have to get some advices first
2010-05-24 13:59 <cedk> Frogzilla232: I can answer you about general concept of accounting
2010-05-24 13:59 <cedk> Frogzilla232: but not about specific requirement for Spain
2010-05-24 14:03 <Frogzilla232> thanks, we have our accounting done by an external company, however i'll like to use tryton to manage our sales.
2010-05-24 14:04 <Frogzilla232> let's say, having the accounting part "right" is a plus
2010-05-24 14:06 <Frogzilla232> i just don't wanna have it wrong, i'm, still not sure about using the minimum plan, or to include the spanish standard. it seems like a lot of work
2010-05-24 14:08 <Frogzilla232> accountants are like programmers (my case), they wanna keep things complicated to avoid losing their jobs ;)
2010-05-24 14:08 <cedk> Frogzilla232: agree for accountants (but not for programmers :-)
2010-05-24 14:09 <cedk> Frogzilla232: there is parhaps arlready someone who is working on spanish account plan
2010-05-24 14:09 <cedk> Frogzilla232: but if you go with minimal plan, you could still later use a real one
2010-05-24 14:13 <yangoon> Frogzilla232:
2010-05-24 14:14 <Frogzilla232> thanks yangoon!
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2010-05-24 20:58 <bellHead> Hi. Does tryton offer any document management capabilities?
2010-05-24 21:04 <dsg_> Hello, came accross diffences in concurent write detection between oERP/tryton (i.e. LP #314696 / set 923 af52e79df675)
2010-05-24 21:10 <dsg_> can someone tell a if we've to expect a differnce in use cases where data input (possibly w/dupes) occurs from many clients burst wise like on auction dead line hours?
2010-05-24 21:32 <cedk> bellHead: yes based on WebDAV
2010-05-24 21:33 <cedk> dsg_: Tryton uses implicit lock based on timestamp
2010-05-24 21:35 <cedk> dsg_: I think it is named "Optimistic locking"
2010-05-24 21:49 <cedk> dsg_: I'm not sure to understand your example
2010-05-24 22:00 <dsg_> OK then the detection mechanism is fine, I think. Every bet has to be made before the race, and those on paper are entered by hand at multiple locations/gtk-clients,
2010-05-24 22:04 <dsg_> dupes and sequences of adjustments/changes can exist. Of couse if the operators loose the changes thay tried to enter that would be less nice than ifl they are able to see/resolve any conflict.
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2010-05-24 23:00 <dsg_> cedk: Thank you for clarifying. With what I've read on the web now, I think it's worth I look into module cration.
2010-05-24 23:15 <dsg_> Actually, I apprecated much of everything I found out about tryton so far. Only the use of goo-groups sticks out.
2010-05-24 23:30 <cedk> dsg_: you should be careful to the design to reduce as much as possible concurency issue
2010-05-24 23:39 <dsg_> Maybe I'll have to just save all "paper forms" entered (separately) first and then have module logic uniq/sort/apply/ask about them in a second step, I'll think about it. Bye, and thanks again.

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