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| 2010-11-24 10:30 <cedk> sharoon: hi, you wanted to speak to me yesterday? | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:30 <sharoon> cedk: yes | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:31 <sharoon> needed advice on how the remaining part of the email module needs completing | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:32 <sharoon> before that I have one question about the template engine | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:32 <sharoon> we usually use self in tryton for getting the variables | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:34 <sharoon> in an evaluation | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:34 <cedk> sharoon: not when evaluating domains, states | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:34 <sharoon> cedk: in genshi self is reserved | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:34 <sharoon> cedk: how do we do it? can we change the convention here? | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:35 <cedk> sharoon: keep this in mind and process step by step | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:35 <sharoon> cedk: fine | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:42 <cedk> sharoon: otherwise for MDA | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:42 <cedk> I think we just need a procmail like script | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:42 <cedk> this will allow to interface with email server like postfix or sendmail | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:42 <cedk> and also with simple fetch script like fetchmail | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:43 <cedk> so the script just take an email as input and put it in the Tryton database | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:44 <cedk> it will just require the database name as parameter | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:50 <sharoon> cedk: sorry was out | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:51 <sharoon> cedk: so probably the script needs to be written as a python script which could be run using the linux scheduler (cron) | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:52 <cedk> sharoon: not necessayr from cron | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:53 <sharoon> cedk: ok... but from yesterdays discussion i feel many prefer to have the email settings also as configurable within a tryton object for easy management | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:53 <sharoon> cedk: what do you suggest? | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:58 <cedk> sharoon: bad idea | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:59 <sharoon> cedk: i thought you would say that ;) | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:59 <cedk> sharoon: don't try to put everything in Tryton | ||
| 2010-11-24 10:59 <cedk> sharoon: no, I was always against the design of pulling emails | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:00 <sharoon> cedk: have you seen that most of the support systems (tciket systems) which "eat" emails have this eature | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:00 <sharoon> s/eature/feature | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:00 <cedk> sharoon: for me, the good design is to use a MTA and plug a Tryton MDA | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:00 <cedk> sharoon: it is not a ticket system | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:01 <sharoon> cedk: thats ok, but can you suggest a good design for the MTA/MDA plugin - totally no idea how it should be done | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:02 <sharoon> cedk: also what do you think of using the smtp client configured in trytond.conf for sending emails? | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:03 <cedk> sharoon: this is good | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:03 <sharoon> cedk: but can you also suggest how to tag emails that need to be sent | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:04 <sharoon> do you want to configure that using a singleton and choosing the mailboxes that should be treated as an outbox or should the mails have a boolean in them? | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:05 <cedk> sharoon: just send it | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:05 <ecarreras> Hi cedk and sharoon, sorry for the intrusion. If you want a fetchmail like script, there is getmail4 (is written entirely in Python) | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:05 <cedk> sharoon: don't store it | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:06 <sharoon> ecarreras: welcome to the discussion - not an intrusion at all | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:06 <sharoon> cedk: so you dont want a behaviour like a mailbox? a queue? | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:06 <sharoon> cedk: it will be badly needed if we do mass mailing | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:06 <cedk> sharoon: i don't see the usefulness | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:07 <sharoon> cedk: for example an email to all partners on monthend with the balance statement | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:07 <cedk> sharoon: why? | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:09 <sharoon> cedk: do you think it is relevant and important for mass mailing? | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:10 <cedk> sharoon: no, it is the job of the smtp server | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:11 <sharoon> cedk: which means the system will be in wait mode for a specific user for minutes, unless we write the operation on a different thread? | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:11 <yangoon> sharoon: I have the impression that in the email discussion it is not very clear what finally has to be achieved | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:12 <yangoon> wiki only speaks from 'The goal is to store emails in Tryton and be able to read it with most email client. ' | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:12 <cedk> sharoon: yes | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:12 <sharoon> yangoon: I am not clear yet, any further clarity on the same will help | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:13 <sharoon> cedk: clear on smtp sending now :) | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:13 <sharoon> ACTION reading http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/documentation.html#features | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:14 <cedk> I don't want to write functionnality that exist somewhere else | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:14 <cedk> so a queue to send email already exists in postfix/sendmail/exim per example | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:19 <cedk> sharoon: and if you generate a lot of email like in your example, the bottleneck will be the generation of the email not the sending | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:20 <sharoon> cedk: i should trust your experience in this, but i doubt it what happens when the server is different from where tryton resides, for example google apps | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:23 <sharoon> cedk: so email_tempalte will have an additional method to send along with render and save | ||
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| 2010-11-24 11:45 <cedk> sharoon: so you will just need to put a local smtp server to make the cache | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:45 <cedk> sharoon: don't reinvent the wheels | ||
| 2010-11-24 11:46 <sharoon> cedk: i am not a system admin, so to be frank not familiar with these, but happy to learn | ||
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| 2010-11-24 14:01 <sharoon> cedk: is there any doc on how tryton could be accessed as a module since 1.8? | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:04 <cedk> sharoon: I don't think | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:04 <cedk> sharoon: the wiki page should be updated | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:04 <sharoon> cedk: i can update the page, but i think the only changes would be the change of location of cache and the transaction | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:05 <sharoon> cedk: should it be the same page ? or another wiki entry? | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:05 <cedk> sharoon: it should be like http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/RemoteCalls | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:20 <sharoon> cedk: | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:20 <sharoon> http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HowToUseTrytondAsAModule | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:21 <sharoon> cedk: can you confirm if the example needs to use the set_user API or just use the way it is now? | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:22 <cedk> sharoon: set_user is to change the current user | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:23 <sharoon> cedk: so what i have written now is the best practice | ||
| 2010-11-24 14:26 <cedk> sharoon: I think | ||
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| 2010-11-24 19:08 <marcela> hi I need help | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:08 <marcela> with tryton stock modules | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:10 <marcela> hi, Somebody here... | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:10 <cedk> marcela: yes but ask question first | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:11 <marcela> Do you help me with any question about tryton stock module? | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:11 <cedk> marcela: ask question we will see | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:17 <marcela> I am trying to generate a internal shipment, I can do draft shipment, but when I try assigned, tryton client say me It is not possible assign | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:18 <cedk> marcela: because you don't have enough product in the origin location | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:19 <marcela> Ok, I see, | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:22 <marcela> But It is new location (I created PRODUCTION location), of course inventory is cero, I have been trying create inventories for this location, with inventory | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:23 <marcela> but PRODUCTION do not appear | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:24 <marcela> but PRODUCTION do not appear in inventory tree | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:26 <cedk> marcela: production location is not yet really used | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:27 <cedk> marcela: so it is normal to not be able to make inventories on it | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:27 <cedk> marcela: and it should not be used for internal move | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:28 <marcela> Ok , thank you very much, | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:28 <marcela> cedk: Do you tryton developer? | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:29 <cedk> marcela: yes | ||
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| 2010-11-24 19:30 <cedk> marcela: the production location type is for the futur production module | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:31 <marcela> Ah I see, I was imagine that | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:35 <marcela> cedk: So, too I am trying create staff(employees) module with name_employee, salary, department (area or category), internal_code, init_contract, | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:38 <marcela> and settlement timework, print pay stub, and register employees event, in and out from company | ||
| 2010-11-24 19:39 <marcela> and settlement timework, print pay stub, and register employees event, in and out hour from company and relation cost from staff | ||
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| 2010-11-24 22:20 <sdistefano2> Hi ; I'm not getting any thousonds separator at all on my invoices | ||
| 2010-11-24 22:20 <sdistefano2> any ideas? | ||
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| 2010-11-24 22:31 <cedk> sdistefano2: Tryton uses the language separator of the party | ||
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