IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2011-12-23 #tryton log beginning Fri Dec 23 00:00:01 CET 2011
2011-12-23 09:27 <sisalp> hello
2011-12-23 09:28 <sisalp> I'd like to keep a module up to date. It comes from a code review location (account_fr)
2011-12-23 09:29 <sisalp> I set tortoise, but it doesn't propose this function : update from original source
2011-12-23 09:30 <sisalp> does hg remebre where it got files from at first ?
2011-12-23 09:30 <sisalp> remember
2011-12-23 09:32 <udono> sisalp: hello, afaik hgreview is able to catch this.
2011-12-23 09:38 <sisalp> bechamel told me the old code review location would probably not fit with mercurial functions
2011-12-23 09:42 <udono> sisalp: I don't know
2011-12-23 09:42 <bechamel> udono: does hg review works with tortoise ?
2011-12-23 09:45 <udono> bechamel: I don't know. Never used tortoise.
2011-12-23 09:46 <udono> bechamel: sisalp maybe it is possible in tortoise to define custom commands for specific tasks?
2011-12-23 09:47 <sisalp> udono: bechamel: thank you for your help, I will clone it daily from a script
2011-12-23 09:48 <udono> sisalp: yes, seems the best solution
2011-12-23 09:51 <bechamel> afk
2011-12-23 10:42 <sisalp> two new French companies are experimenting Tryton, starting today :-)
2011-12-23 11:05 <dellph> hello ppl :0
2011-12-23 11:06 <dellph> does tryton support multiple org, multiple client?
2011-12-23 11:18 <cedk> dellph: yes, we name it multi-company
2011-12-23 11:31 <dellph> cedk, do you have a wiki for this? :) i tried to google it but i have no luck
2011-12-23 11:33 <dellph> cedk, when i look at the models of the party, product there is no company id to link it with it
2011-12-23 11:51 <cedk> dellph: that's normal, by default it is shared
2011-12-23 11:53 <dellph> cedk, what do you mean default is shared? I came from adempiere erp all the tables have client_id and org_id. sorry for a dumb question im new in openerp
2011-12-23 11:53 <cedk> dellph: you can use it for any companies
2011-12-23 11:54 <dellph> cedk, so you can do inter company transaction?
2011-12-23 11:55 <cedk> dellph: not really
2011-12-23 11:55 <cedk> dellph: I mean there is no code for that
2011-12-23 11:56 <dellph> cedk, but you can build a module for it?
2011-12-23 11:56 <sisalp> dellph: no problem to be new in openerp here :-)
2011-12-23 11:56 <dellph> cedk, so its possible to make a module the would support multi company ?
2011-12-23 11:57 <dellph> sisalp, thanks :)
2011-12-23 11:59 <cedk> dellph: it depends what you mean by multi-company?
2011-12-23 12:00 <dellph> cedk, when i mean multi company/branch. in one transaction let say sales you specify what company is your working
2011-12-23 12:00 <dellph> so every document has a company_id
2011-12-23 12:01 <dellph> so this company/branch has also its own product
2011-12-23 12:01 <sisalp> dellph: if you separate everything, why don't you have separated databases ?
2011-12-23 12:03 <dellph> sisalp, there are many issues of separate database. example you have a product lets call it produc1
2011-12-23 12:04 <dellph> product1 is availble to branch 1, branch 2
2011-12-23 12:04 <sisalp> branch1 is a company ?
2011-12-23 12:04 <dellph> yes a company can be a branch
2011-12-23 12:05 <sisalp> ok
2011-12-23 12:05 <dellph> so what we do in adempiere we put
2011-12-23 12:05 <dellph> product 1 client_id *
2011-12-23 12:05 <dellph> it means it available to all branch
2011-12-23 12:05 <cedk> dellph: this is the default in Tryton
2011-12-23 12:05 <sisalp> it implies you have a centralized product management
2011-12-23 12:06 <dellph> we put a pricelist for branch1 , and branch 2 so that it can be seen to all branch
2011-12-23 12:06 <dellph> so there is no double encoding
2011-12-23 12:07 <dellph> thats one advantage to not separate database
2011-12-23 12:07 <dellph> also in accounting
2011-12-23 12:07 <dellph> you have inter company postings there will be less error prone
2011-12-23 12:07 <dellph> because it will create automatically inter company entries
2011-12-23 12:07 <cedk> dellph: this is not yet supported in Tryton
2011-12-23 12:08 <dellph> you do not need to post it to other databse
2011-12-23 12:08 <dellph> cedk, oh i see. but it would possible?
2011-12-23 12:08 <cedk> dellph: why not
2011-12-23 12:08 <dellph> cedk, what i like in tryton its module
2011-12-23 12:08 <sisalp> there are pros and cons, coupling separate companies by their erp is not something I recommand, but this is off-topic
2011-12-23 12:09 <cedk> dellph: but I already talked with sisalp, but such behavior must be design carefully
2011-12-23 12:10 <cedk> the best will be to support EDI even for inside the system
2011-12-23 12:10 <dellph> cedk, so its like overhauling the core? or just a module?
2011-12-23 12:11 <dellph> sisalp, we came from quickbooks then adempiere.
2011-12-23 12:11 <dellph> sisalp, quickbooks is like that. every company has one database
2011-12-23 12:11 <cedk> dellph: it must be some extra modules
2011-12-23 12:12 <dellph> sisalp, but we really felt the advantage of one database for all branch
2011-12-23 12:13 <dellph> cedk, ok thats good news :)
2011-12-23 12:13 <dellph> cedk, do you have a functional book?
2011-12-23 12:13 <dellph> that i can read.
2011-12-23 12:17 <Telesight> dellph: To administer Tryton, here is a start for a manual:
2011-12-23 12:18 <dellph> Telesight, thanks for the link :)
2011-12-23 12:24 <dellph> sisalp, also the cons of one database for all branch you can see in the product info the list available product for each branch in one window
2011-12-23 12:25 <dellph> also in account payable and receivables, it can easily consolidate in one statement
2011-12-23 12:25 <dellph> let say a customer is allowed to a credit order in all branches
2011-12-23 12:25 <dellph> you can easily see all his statement of account
2011-12-23 12:27 <dellph> cedk, is it possible to consolidate Financial Report in all your branches in tryton?
2011-12-23 12:28 <cedk> dellph: not yet
2011-12-23 12:28 <dellph> cedk, ok thanks :)
2011-12-23 12:30 <cedk> dellph: I think it is needed to define how to consolidate
2011-12-23 12:31 <cedk> dellph: but it should be doable to define a new pseudo account chart that group a set of accounts of different companies
2011-12-23 12:32 <dellph> cedk, if you make tryton to support multi companies would you say its a ambitious task?
2011-12-23 12:33 <cedk> dellph: as I said it already support it on some points
2011-12-23 12:34 <dellph> cedk, ok good :)
2011-12-23 12:34 <cedk> dellph: but if you want EDI and consolidation, it is not ambitious but some large project
2011-12-23 12:39 <dellph> cedk, thanks again
2011-12-23 12:54 <sisalp> dellph: the reason why I challenge this design is that when companies share data, they usually make business operations together and this is where it usually hurts
2011-12-23 12:56 <sisalp> multi-company consolidation is doable in the erp if all companies use the same. Usually it is separated on purpose.
2011-12-23 12:58 <sisalp> when business rules are different, solution is often to separate
2011-12-23 16:27 <jcm> hi, why is the sale line description instead of product.description ?
2011-12-23 16:28 <cedk> jcm: shorter
2011-12-23 16:47 <jcm> cedk: why is the product description ignored? the line contains two times the same info, it's useless
2011-12-23 16:50 <cedk> jcm: I don't understand
2011-12-23 16:59 <jcm> cedk: on the sale line, I have two columns, name and description. Description is the same as name, though I entered a description in product. Bug or feature?
2011-12-23 17:01 <cedk> jcm: I don't have a column name
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